What is the E-Cat?

E-Cat stands for “energy catalyzer” and is a device invented by Italian-American inventor Andrea Rossi, in which hydrogen gas, powdered nickel metal, and undisclosed proprietary catalysts are combined to produce a large amount of heat through a little understood low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) process inside a specially designed chamber. The inner workings of the reactor are covered by a trade secret which Rossi consistently refuses to discuss.

In this process, when an external heat source is applied (Electric or fossil) to the reaction chamber, large amounts of thermal energy (heat) are produced, much more than could be accounted for from chemical reactions. From reports of tests, it appears that the reaction begins when the reactor is heated to around 60 degrees Celsius, and once the reaction is stable, the external heat can be turned off and the reaction can continue for a considerable length of time. In an October 6th test in Bologna, Italy, the E-Cat ran without external heat (referred to as ‘self-sustain mode) for almost four hours, maintaining a constant temperature and boiling water continuously.

Initially, Rossi and Focardi believed, and stated that the heat was generated because the nucleus of a hydrogen atom, a proton, penetrated a nickel nucleus and in doing so a nickel atom became a copper atom. Now Rossi states that while transmutation does take place, it is more of a side effect, and the core effect is caused by some undisclosed mechanism. Rossi says he has a firm understanding of what is taking place, but will not disclose his theory until he has patent protection.

How long the E-Cat can run in self sustain mode without external heat being applied is unknown, but Andrea Rossi has said that for safe and stable operations it is necessary that the external heat source be cycled on and off.

The energy produced by the nuclear reactions is used to heat water, and the output of the E-Cat is hot water or steam. Lead and Boron are used as a shield to prevent the release of gamma rays during the reactions, and when the reactions are complete (The hydrogen input is turned off) there is no radioactive waste.

The significance of the E-Cat as an energy source is that it can produce energy at a much cheaper rate and much more cleanly than other sources on the market. The major ingredients, nickel and hydrogen are common elements and readily available at low cost and are consumed in very small quantities. There is no release of CO2 or other greenhouse gases from the E-Cat. Unlike traditional nuclear fission power, no radioactive materials are involved, and no radioactive waste is produced.

Rossi has been awarded a patent for the E-Cat by the Italian Patent Office and is seeking further patent protection.

Andrea Rossi launched the first commercial E-Cat plant, a 1 MW thermal power plant in Bologna, Italy on October 28th, 2011 which was tested and certified as being acceptable by an agent for an unknown customer. Rossi has stated that the customer is a military entity that does not want to be identified.

Rossi’s Leonardo Corporation is planning to move into the domestic market within between a year and eighteen months, and has already started production of parts for one million small 10-20 kW E-Cat units that can provide heat and air conditioning to homes. Rossi has said that his target price for these first units is going to be around $1000 each.

Rossi has said that while electrical generation is possible with this device, there is still work to do in order for E-Cats to produce electricity efficiently. The first generation of small E-Cats will not come with electrical generation capacity, but these units will be able to be retrofitted with electricity generating modules once that technology has been perfected. Second generation E-Cats will be able to produce heat, cooling and electricity.

According to Rossi, the cost of energy produced by these E-Cats will be at least one sixth of the cost of conventional sources. Every six months, E-Cat units will need to have their reaction chambers which contain processed nickel and the catalyst replaced by licensed agents of Leonardo Corporation.

Rossi has reported the development of a high temperature E-Cat reactor that can reach peak temperatures of ‘well over’ 1000 C, and are stable at around 350 C. These reactors, he says, will be capable of producing steam at temperatures that will be able to produce electricity efficiently. These high temperature reactors are only going to be available (for the time being at least) in industrial level E-Cat plants — not for home use.

Below is a photograph of one of these high temperature E-Cat units (sometimes referred to as ‘hot cats). Andrea Rossi recently provided the dimension of this reactor: “the diameter of the internal cylinder is 30 mm, the diameter of the external cylinder is 90 mm, the length of both is 330 mm.”

In May 2013, Italian blogger Daniele Passerini released a photograph (without Andrea Rossi’s approval) of a hot cat that was being tested to its maximum performance. Andrea Rossi explained in an interview on May 7, 2013 that this picture, although unauthorized, showed a Hot Cat reactor in self-sustain mode being allowed to run away — i.e. the reaction was uncontrolled.

Hot Cat on Fire

On May 16th, 2013 a report was published by a group of European academics who were given access to a hot cat reactor over a period of about five months to test. The conclusion of the group was that the E-Cat provided energy in amounts far greater than would be possible from any chemical reaction. The report can be read here. More tests are scheduled to be done, including a 180 day test which will apparently be started this summer.

So far, Rossi has maintained that the only validation that really matters is from satisfied customers who own working E-Cats. Only when E-Cats are readily available will the forgoing information be able to be fully confirmed.

Industrial Heat, LLC Acquires the Rights to the E-Cat

In the last days of 2013 a poster on ecatnews.com noticed that Fulvio Fabiani, an engineer for Andrea Rossi’s Leonardo Corporation posted on his LinkedIn account that he was working for a company called Industrial Heat LLC, in Raleigh Durham, North Carolina. More searching uncovered the fact that Industrial Heat LLC was incorporated in 2012 and its chairman was Thomas Darden, CEO of private equity company Cherokee Investment Partners of Raleigh, North Carolina. Industrial Heat LLC and Cherokee share the same mailing address.

Further searching uncovered a report on a Chinese website that Tom Darden had travelled to China in September 2013 and had signed an agreement with Chinese officials to help establish a Sino-US Science and Technology Innovation Park in Baoding, China. One of the proposed industries listed as being installed at this park was listed as ‘nickel reactor new energy projects’ — a clear reference in the context of all this information to the E-Cat.

On January 24, 2014, Industrial Heat LLC issues a press release announcing that they had acquired the intellectual property and licensing rights to Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat technology. Tom Darden, co-founder of Cherokee Investment Partners was mentioned as one of the investors behind Industrial Heat. The press release said that Industrial Heat has validated E-Cat technology by inspecting the E-Cat during performance tests, and having an independent expert certify its performance. Industrial Heat plans to embark on an industrialization effort to make the E-Cat’s use widespread, and has reached out to companies, universities and NGOs, inviting them to participate in partnerships to help develop the E-Cat.

Third Party Test, October 2014 (The Lugano Report)

In October 2014, the team of researchers which had conducted the testing in 2013, released a new report about testing of an E-Cat reactor they had operated during a 31-day experiment during February and March, 2014 in Lugano, Switzerland. The team reported that the reactor produced over twice as much energy as was fed into it, and that during the testing analysis showed that isotopic makeup of elements used in the fuel changed significantly. See here for more information on this test.

Industrial Plant Under Test at Customer Site (2014-2015)

Andrea Rossi inspects his 1MW E-Cat Plant, 2014 (photo courtesy www.andrea-rossi.com)

Starting in late 2014, Andrea Rossi reported that he was working at the site of a customer of Industral Heat, performing a long-term test of an industrial-grade 1MW E-Cat plant that was supplying heat for an unnamed industrial process. Rossi has said that at the conclusion of this test, data from the testing will be made available, and visits to the plant will be allowed by selected individuals, including members the press. Rossi has said that he expects the testing to conclude between November 2015, and February 2016.

  • Barney Holmes

    Undisclosed ? Its in the patent … a frequency 😉

  • http://www.irprout.it Tarcisio Bonotto

    If the E-cat is not functioning it will be a disaster for mr. Rossi.
    But at least you should recognize that he is trying to make use of some discovery for createing something new on the energy production.
    He is not discovering some parts of the E-cat, because there are many in the world that would like to copy it.
    Infact to have the International Patent, he should discover that secret, but who will assure that his request for the patent will be accepted and not that somebody else will arrive before him if the secret will be known?
    As it appened in many cases?
    Please enjoy the beauty of his intention to create clean energy.
    Fot the moment you will have just HOT WATER, at very cheap price!

    • Alexvs

      For the moment (20 days elapsed) you have nothing.

  • http://n/a eric

    What is Rossi’s “history or undelivered devices” – accusations should be backed up with more details. Maybe so but what are they?

    • Alexvs

      My last post was supressed. I repeat: Google “Andrea Rossi”, “Rossi Ecat”…

  • alexvs

    I have noticed that my last post was written in Durvidish.
    Excuse me all as it is not an ordinary language.

    Now we have clearer information about E-Cat which we want to share.

    E-Cat devices as proposed by Mr. Rossi, Defkalion and others are based in the property that have certain transition elements of ad/absorbing hydrogen (up to 3000 in volume).
    This is so if the solids maintain a certain atomic
    structure f.i. in crystaline lattices.
    If the element presents several stable isotopes diferring in 2 or 4 atomic units and some energy (heat for instance)is provided, then part of lighter isotopes capture 2 or 4 neutrons giving a heavier isotope.
    The mechanismus by which it happens is not clear. Perhaps hydrogen in the lattice has a non zero probability of being transformed in neutrons or through a previous reaction of 1H to 2H or directly to 4He.
    Fe, Ni, Pd, Pt and Hg are possible candidates for such processes.
    Fe can be discarded because 56Fe is the most abundant isotope with the highest binding energy.
    Hg can be discarded for obvious reasons.
    Ni, Pd and Pt isotopes are present in natural state and in significant amounts.
    For each atom capturing neutrons a place is let free in the lattice allowing another 1H atom occupy its place. The limit is obviously the temperature which is critical.
    Temperature must be so high as to provide 1H atoms with enough energy as to enable 2 x 1H -> 2H or 4 x 1H -> 4He but not so much as to permit 1H atoms escape from lattice or even worse, to destroy the lattice structure.
    Although these reactions occurred among stable isotopes that does not mean that it be radiationless. In Pd case low energy gamma rays are generated.

    This mechanismus explains why E-Cat devices need an ignition time before entering the so called self sustain mode.
    Ignition time requires energy which is generously expended at self sustain mode. In other words the energy pumped in in ignition mode is returned in self sustain mode.

    This said it does not mean that LENR not be a real research field. I mean regarding the goal of getting abundant and safe energy. On the contrary, a better understanding of what happens into the lattice would yield the results we all are expecting.

    Good luck and happiness for everyone.

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  • Rouge

    “The first generation of small E-Cats will not come with electrical generation capacity, but these units will be able to be retrofitted with electricity generating modules once that technology has been perfected. Second generation E-Cats will be able to produce heat, cooling and electricity.”

    So basically what they are saying is you buy a unit that doesn’t actually work, then some time down the track they’ll add on something that makes it generate electricity (most probably with a cost attached as well)… i dunno about anyone else but it sounds like this guy is asking for your money up front and giving you a promise that when he’s finished his research that your device will become useful.

    Sounds like a scam to me

    • Carlos

      The first generation will work, but only to heat water and produce steam. To produce electricity, some kind of steam-to-electricity converter has to be added to the design.

      • http://www.lenrforum.eu/ Alain

        anyway the production of electricity at home won’t be efficient, since small turbines/Stirling have low efficiency and high cost (>2000$/kW efficiency <90% of Carnot.

        The rational will be e-cat at home, and big MW power plant, with <500$/kW price and 90% carnot efficiency…

        some numbers that fed that comment

    • http://n/a eric

      I think your Rouge 5/20 reply is misinformed. You assume that you are paying for a unit on a promise that it will produce electricity for running your household but all they are claiming is that you will only benefit from the “BTU’s of heat for your home heating and hot water heating use and will have to wait until later to also be able to use it to run your electrical needs. Hello?

  • Alexvs

    Brocsi namente Adrea Rossi senopis yomet ek teramnia se. Troncolario meropse bradicut evi na teramnia evi na bemuste arap neradio gerocre.
    Reopso senoipo ek odetosto esachiio arap difruncno seropaln evi ascrel shidagoste doprovnio.
    Andrea Rossi E-Cat suple nhifagia el bidoha ne lodumno.

    • Alexvs

      Obledimaskia, damsa Andrea Rossi, senopis osort mooc Dr. Levi evi Dr. Foccardi dinopia bere ised, enab edafrusic enab enoplicic per Andrea Rossi.

  • Ivan Cevallos

    Rossi has a history of undelivered devices, He have no idea of what is happening with LENR.
    Focardi did work with Piantelly and they have a testing device. that works with Nickel and Hydrogen….
    Then Rossi uses Focardi to create the image of discovery. And creates the Scam called ecat. with no independent test because is an hoax.
    Is a one man band, that produces millions of ecats with no factory, workers, scientists, etc, He is tryind to scam a couple of hundred million dollas from some rich investor. they will create some reason the ecat does not work, or be in research mode for ever.
    How old is Rossi, looks about 65, so that means another 15 years of life, If you that old and you know your life will end any way, would not be better to work for the benefit of humanity instead of a obsesive ideal of being extremely Rich.
    Any Inventor that creates new energy source will be rich, he just have do a “real demo” and licence the product world wide, if the inventor get a dollar per device it will make billions.

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  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com The Tim Channel

    So what if LENR is real? It’s obviously so illusory or minor that even with the best scientists looking at it, even the extremely MINOR effects are not reproducible (or explainable). This thing has scam written all over it. Yesterday I was actually reading a Rossi blog where he was ‘taking orders’ for this thing THRU THE COMMENT section of his blog!!



  • Chris Redd

    Please check your facts. Even if we assume LENR reactions occur all scientific testing and evidence to date show LENR is only present in systems when Deuterium is used yet Rossi is claiming to only use Hydrogen.


  • Henke

    People denying this science or phenomen is just regurgitating denyers from the end of the 80´s. To think that Andrea Rossi has discovered this himself and have hid it from the world until his final product comes out is ludicrous. The debate is almost 23 years old now and have a rich history to learn. Here are a nice video on the history of “Cold fusion”: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562030534380820378

    And a nice report from dr Eugene F. Mallow: http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/mitcfreport.pdf


  • kenzer

    Cold fusion is identical to charge cluster fusion.

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  • Peter Lindstrom

    I have been involved in 3 important patents during my career, 2 where somehow leaked before I filed for patent, when I filed for patent, there was already an identical application filed the month/week before, drawings and descriptions identical to mine.The third was granted a world wide patent but this patent was infringed by a large German company, they first put up a company in Spain and produced the item. After years of legal fights and appeals they simply closed that factory and moved production to another country. We had to start the legal fight all over again. This continued for 12 years, then they offered to buy our rights for a sum similar to our legal costs. I will never again reveal any information about any new invention of mine, except straight to the public.

    • Enrico

      Patents are just stupid.

      That is what happen when you care about your pocket instead of people!
      If you make something that is “new” then you are the one who is ahead, you have the advantage of being the first. You don’t need a patent, just keep being ahead.

      Everything has to be shared and open! The world needs this, not a patent!

      • Phil

        Oh really? What if you spent 15 years of your life studying to get your PhD in Physics and then spent another 15-20 years developing your theories and another 10 years developing your prototype with borrowed money and finally ended up with a great invention? Are you going to just give it away for free and share it without a patent? You’re the stupid one.

      • http://www.deblock-technologies.com Ron

        I Love your comment Enrico! Share the knowledge, don’t be selfish :)

    • Ivan

      One small problem… There is no such thing as a world wide patent. Patents are country-specific. Of course, you could file patents in as many countries as you want, but why on earth would you even want to file a patent in Columbia, Nigeria or Laos???

      So, yeah, Peter Lindstrom -1

    • http://www.deblock-technologies.com Ron

      Peter, patent industry is mafia! Power to the wrong people, patents cost a lot of money, if your a simple inventor, the big companies will always buy you out, because you don’t have the money to arrange your patent!

  • http://bit.ly/cold-fusion Bastiaan

    Read for a simple introduction to cold fusion:

  • Jozef Misiarz

    Reakcja jest prawdziwa a katalizator tak prosty że trudno to zrozumieć .Na pewno nie będzie nigdy produkcji masowej . Nie pozwoli na to lobby paliwowe. Była już kilka lat temu próba ujawnienia tego wynalazku . Jozef

    • robertcb

      Jeśli to faktycznie działa i Andrea Rossi sprzeda te E-cat’y dużej liczbie klientów, to w końcu prawda wyjdzie na jaw i uzna ją tzw. twarda nauka, czyli akademicka.
      wtedy lobby paliwowe już nic nie będzie mogło zrobić poza pójściem z torbami.

  • Dennis Drumheller

    Let us all patiently wait and see. Let us not jump to conclusions. Let it run the course. We will know soon enough. Human-powered flight was once thought to be impossible by most people… let’s wait and see.

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  • dude

    Read some of the remarks, and the above article. Here’s my insight on this starting from the “possible” nucleic reactions of adding a proton to Nickel (which is what the article implies):

    The main reactions that can possibly happen assuming somehow Rossi get a proton into a Nickel nucleus are:
    (1) Ni_58 (68.007% abundance) + proton gives, Cu_59 ->(beta plus, 81s half life) Ni_59 ->(beta_plus, very short hf)Co_59 (stable)
    (2) Ni_60 (26.223%) + p gives Cu_61->(beta plus 3.3h half life) Ni_61 (stable)
    (3) Ni_62 (3.635%) + p : Cu_63 (stable) Not generating any energy
    (4) Ni_61 (1.139%) + p : Cu_62 ->(beta plus 9.6min) Ni_62 (stable)

    They emit beta_plus (positron) so that will emit as gamma rays (mostly) indeed. High energy radiation. Care should be taken indeed.

    Besides the Cu_61 that decays with 3.3 hours half life, nothing is very long, so indeed no radioactivity is to be left after a few hours, or 1-2 days. If path 2 is not happening then really nothing is left radioactive a short while after ending the process.

    In theory if he has found a way of pushing a proton into Nickel in low energy , this might work. However:
    (1) I find it highly unreasonable it is possible. No matter what – remember that a proton is a positive charge and you try to bullet it into a highly positive nucleus. You need a lot of energy in order to do that, there’s really no way around it without having to replace alot of the laws of physics. I can’t see it happening with a proton and low energies, really.
    (2) Any such attempts with current knwon physics will require much more energy to get the proton into the Nickel atom than what is gained after with the decays. There are no free lunches in life, and esp. in physics, and esp. in energy calculations.

    Since nothing was revealed about the theory and protocol, We have to sadly deduce that
    (1) Either this is a hoax.
    (2) Something else happens which is NOT LENR (which is practically impossible). That is also very unlikely.
    (3) Bad science and mistakes. Not the first time in history this is happens.

    Any rational person sadly (As we all would like something like that to be true) has to say there’s still nothing here.

    How can you claim to have something like that and not explain the details of the aparatus and what you think is happening? No real scientist would ever hide it. If it is true it is the biggest thing since Einstein, but Einstein was open and wrote papers and books, this guy acts like a hoax guy not like a scientist.

    • Anthony

      The world is a different place than when Einstein was around. People need to protect their ideas a little bit more. No sane person would take a hoax as far as this seems to be headed. We will see what happens. If it is real, there is no way it will be swept under the rug. If not, then really it will just spur people to find alternative means to the needed end.

      • dude

        Well stating that if it works it works and if not it doesn’t, is a mathematical tautology, and therefore something we must agree to.
        There are huge scientific discoveries even to this day, every year, and they are explained, written about, full papers and all. This is how true science works. This happens also with commercial potential inventions – all you need to do is start a patent filing process (to gain priority) and then you can publish it all. Rossi has a perfectly patentable apparatus – people patent things much more vague than that. A true scientist in my humble opinion, at the stage of claiming such far reaching claims, would surely be ready to patent his technology (which he should by all means, and it is an easy process) and then be free to explain his claims and let labs over the world repeat it.

        In my humble opinion if Rossi is searching for world wide admiration, huge financial returns and a real change to the world (which is at the end THE GOAL, and I expect it of true scientists) then patenting and then publishing plus letting the best labs in the world repeat it is the fastest way for him to continue and raise all the funds in the world to make his plans true.

        Let’s think for a little: suppose he has filed the needed patents (easy and fast), published and let labs in say: CalTech, MIT, Cambridge and Planck Institute repeat the experiments and validate them. Wouldn’t it be MUCH better for him???? If he had done that he would have raised all the money he needs for his projects within hours and with the best terms in the world.

        The fact he is NOT going in this path, raises doubts and questions. Sure – I hope I am wrong, as no one in the world would be happier than me to learn of such a ground breaking scientific discovery that releases all humanity from energy problems forever. However – it is Rossi who has to prove it, not me.


        • Pi

          @dude: You rant sounds like the speech of academia: publish or perish.

          Academia rarely bothers to publish anything of value, and even less anything related to reality. Most reported “proofs” extracted from “experiments” have merely ventured on the keyboard – far away from the labs.

          And “peer-review” is the filter which naturally excludes those who do not share the urge for cooking the numbers – while they are arguably the most valuable members of your group.

          Why this sad state of things? Because of the grants (that come from “non-profit” foundations which own the shares of the corporations behind the favorable “papers”).

          That’s rent-jobs, yet another corporate PR relay disguised as “Science”.

          So, please, spare us the “respectability” standards that you do not know enough to find them applicable to your group of interest.

          Let those who dare to be judged on results do their jobs in peace.

          Stop harassing them because it is too obvious for all that they are doing your job – without the taxpayer’s subsides that you enjoy.

    • John Doe

      Maybe he has no idea why it works–just knows that it does. As you said, proof that you can force a proton into a nucleus at low energy would require rewriting a lot of the laws of physics.

  • Skiball

    I would think Palladium is involved. It can absorbe 9 times itself in hydrogen.

  • massimodm

    It looks like the elements included into the eCat are the same of a common rechargeable NiMH battery.
    Maybe that the supposed LENR was a result of a mishandling of a battery (overheating it).

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  • YetAnotherBob

    I checked the table of isotopes, and the common isotope that is one proton different than the most common isotope of Nickel has a half life of only a fraction of a second. It decays into (get this) Nickel (by electron capture). There is only on isotope of Nickel that is stable and is one AMU different than a stable copper isotope. That isotope is less than 1% in nickel samples.

    This thing, if it worked, would produce a great deal of very radioactive byproducts.

    I conclude from this that it is a hoax.

    BTW, patents require disclosure. The patent holder isn’t allowed to have ‘trade secrets’ that are required to operate the device. The patent documents must be complete enough ‘for any person skilled in the art to duplicate the invention.’ otherwise, it would be struck down as an incomplete filing.

  • Miguel Casellas Sastre

    If the experiment is really what it is expected, come to Puerto Rico and fast! We are in a big hurry for cheap and clean energy.

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  • http://none George Campbell

    I think the hidden ingredient he has is Beryllium that aids the nuclear reaction! Of course Nuclear radiation can cause transmutation of elements. It was discovered (approximately 50 years ago)that placing Mercury in a Nuclear reactor converted at least one of the isotopes of Hg to Gold Au 197 and some of it to Platinum. I have done this myself on a small test scale!


    • Richard C Haven

      A Beryllium sphere?! Really?

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  • Garion

    The problem with claims that sound to good to be true is that they are indeed … too good to be true.

  • Ferd

    Its a typical cold fusion scam. They are just running 3% hydrogen peroxide solution like you have at home through the plumbing. The nickel catalyst causes it to break down into oxygen, which no one notices, water, and lots and lots of heat.

    Ask them the drink the water that goes in it.

    • brubaker

      Sorry, but this is bullshit.
      We are already talking about COP 6.
      Don’t believe me? Ask Dr. Brian Josephson instead (Nobel price for physic) or check the data yourself.

    • Peter Johnson

      hydrogen peroxide solution at 3% has a vinegar smell, everybody in the room would know in an instant if that was the case.

      • tahrey

        Not if they were shown a tap, and a hose, then hot water coming out the other end with no other possible input in-between. Or, if the kit was open to the air, it may get written off/handwaved as just a strange smelling room (could pass it off as carpet tile glue that hasn’t fully cured…) or any of a long list of other things. So long as there’s no-one there who’s very familiar with the smell of peroxide, its typical reactions and the tricks used by free energy enthusiasts.

        The “drink the input” challenge sounds like a good one. As well as allowing spectators to supply their own jugs of water to make a cup of tea from, and having the thing run closed-circuit with a steam turbine or stirling engine turning the several kilowatts of output power into a few tens of watts of “maintenance power”.

      • Wilson Tay

        Hydrogen peroxide solution at 3% does not smell anything like vinegar at all. Your statement is total rubbish.

        Hydrogen Peroxide colourless and almost completely odourless at 3% concentrations and sipping a very small quantity would be harmless to humans.

        • Doc Brown

          3% hydrogen peroxide is often used as a mouthwash. It bubbles profusely as soon as it makes contact with the tissue and bacteria in your mouth. If you swallow it, it makes most people throw up.

  • http://acrogen.com Acrogen

    How much energy is in the Hydrogen gas used in the process??
    For a balanced equation of energy in to energy out, this needs to be factored in even if it is small.
    An over unity system (one that develops more output than all the power inputs required) would need to factor in the energy input of an electrolyser to generate the Hydrogen required in the process.

    • Mike Knowlton

      That’s a big question, Will an E-Cat generate enough (over unity) power to break water to hydrogen/oxygen
      and the also power to do the reheat cycles.

  • Weber4YOU

    There is a better way:
    the Nickelpowder must be fixed within a Stirlingengine.
    The Stirlingengine inside surface shout be made by ceramik.
    If the Rossi reactor will work that invention will do it better in the lower power range under 20kW and Mr. Rossi has now patent on it.

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    • http://tony71.joinambit.com Anthony

      This is going to change the world….

      • tahrey

        Would you be willing to place a large monetary bet on that… signed, notarised, shake hands on it in front of witnesses?

        It’s either fake, or it will be bought up by a big oil shell-company and buried so deep that future generations will use it as a fossil fuel.

        The way of revealing this to the world isn’t this smoke and mirrors way, but to keep it quieter, patent the ever living hell out of it, and then release and mass-license it with full info on how it works.

        • Frank Foster

          To all the nay-sayers how maney patens or inventions have you done
          that you can tell the man that’s how to do it. I hope all the success in the world to him. Because if it does work, just think of the possibilities. And if it does not work,that is one more thing we can eliminate in our quest for cheaper energy.

      • lol

        You’re a moron if you think that this stupid shit is real.

        • Tommy