MFMP Introduce Indian ECCO LENR Project with Claimed COP of 8

The Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project has posted new details about the ECCO project, built and operated by a team in India. The MFMP states that if confirmed through MFMP verification, ECCO will be the “the first fully described / open working New Fire technology in this epoch.”

More information can be found at this dedicated page on the Steemit site: https:[email protected][email protected]-fire-reactor

Here is a summary of the project from the site:

In brief

The “ECCO” reactor currently uses 8 alumina tube reactors driven independently to allow scaling of output power from around 1kW to over 8kW

  • Current fuel: Ultrasonically processing of powders in light water for about 200 hours is then finished by pyrolysis
  • 3 Ultrasonic transducers @ 19.4kHz & 1.5kW each for a total of 4.5kW
  • Elements in current fuel: Ti, TiH, Ni, Al, LiOH, C, K2CO3
  • Core reactor is standard extruded alumina cylinder
  • Reactors in second steel sheath
  • Starting status: Initial vacuum in cell
  • Through fuel discharge provided by thoriated tungsten welding electrodes
  • Fuel held in place by Nickel foil formed into a plug in to which the needle point of the electrodes passes
  • Pure nickel foil made by plating from Nickel Sulphate onto steel using hydrogen plasma and ultrasonically de-laminating it
  • Fuel not tightly packed, 22mm active zone in Al2O3 tube with 1.6g of fuel occupying <1/3 available space
  • 1 MHz non-symmetrical waveform (fast rise, slow fall) pulsed DC discharge provided by MOSFETs through fuel
  • 2000 – 2400V discharge potential set to prevent spark
  • Approximately 100W applied in non-spark discharge
  • Ultrasonic vibration at same 1MHz applied to fuelled zone in tube in order to fluidise the fuel components
  • Between 15-30W used for the ultrasonic fluidisation
  • Peak input power is approximately 1kW
  • Core temperature (external of ceramic) 1100ºC using S-type thermocouple
  • Tested for 3 months in accumulated on time, only 2-3% output variation during that time
  • Heat exchanger enables transfer of heat to water which is heated to 101ºC
  • Instantly stops reaction when turned off
  • Water heated to boiling inside 5 mins of turn on
  • Claimant used his, his partners and his teams expertise alongside publicly available discussions on the New Fire
  • Reactor was arrived at by informed trial and error without specific theory consideration
  • Many areas identified for improvement and now from a theoretical basis
  • Good fuel testing platform
  • Makes a lot of cups of tea

There are also a number of videos of the system including this one titled “Eight”, because the creator claims that this system runs with a COP of 8, and that it can reach full operating temperatures from a dead start to a COP of 8 in five minutes.

The MFMP is hoping to be able to raise funds to get a team to India to test out this system. Those interested in supporting the project are invited to make donations on their website here: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/donate

  • Bob Greenyer
  • Bob Greenyer

    We already have relationships with universities – they don’t seam to want to know unless it is a guaranteed win. Even then they seam to not want to follow detailed protocol. The biggest challenge is the 9-5, 5 days a week and the bureaucracy – really not conducive to LENR research.

    Moreover, you have to explain 4.5 years of experience and research just to get them up to speed. Very inefficient.

    If ‘experts’ at universities or elsewhere have something valuable to add, then they can criticise the protocol plans we will publish before we conduct the experiments. If you have something valuable to add, then go for it. This the power of open research – it should be considered shameful to be wise after the fact.

    Since we will publish data, videos etc. as we go, people that claim to be competent can suggest things as we proceed so that all criticisms are dealt with.

    As it stands, in the case of both me356 and Suhas, we will be measuring flow rate and temperature rise – no steam.

  • Bob Greenyer

    first and/or second half of May is the current discussed time frame.

  • Bob Greenyer

    The team is coordinating and working in parallel well to bring things together. Of course the focus is on LOS.

    Expect a lot more in the coming days and weeks.

    Me356 has agreed to do the first SEM images of Suhas fuel – so looking forward to seeing what it looks like.

    • Eyedoc

      Hey Bob, just wanted to voice my agreement with your decision to go

      • Bob Greenyer

        Can’t take it out. Like that.

    • Eyedoc

      OK sorry glitched….. , just saying …good decision to go Steemit blockchain at this point ….. uncontrollable

  • Bob Greenyer

    So, with a tally standing at $24,635, we can afford to verify Suhas, me356 and build and test an Egely reactor.

    Also, if anyone can convince Rossi, we have a perfect and accurate mass flow calorimeter in France that would be perfect to verify Rossi’s latest claims.

  • suhas R

    Message to all
    I am not Dr Suhas Ralkar
    but Mr Suhas Ralkar
    I do hold Postgraduate degree in Physics-Electronics

    • bfast

      In my economy a person is judged more by their actions than by the paper hanging on their wall. You are performing the work of someone with a doctorate. In fact I wish a lot more with doctorates were performing the same work.

      When the dust settles, some smart university will give you the Doctorate for the work you are doing here.

      Oh, by the way Eng. Rossi is often referred to as Dr. Rossi by me and others. Same reason. He’s doing the work.

  • Bob Greenyer

    There are 2 parts to the second technical call – one is linked below

    here is the second

    https://soundcloud.com/user-554048314/ecco-technical-discussion-p04-2017-03-21-at-1640

    • artefact

      Very encouraging and a good sound quality. I just need to get more used to the Indian English 🙂
      Thank you Suhas!

    • Charlie tapp

      Is celani going to be any part of this with u guys? Haven’t heard about him since he was corresponding with me356 on lenr forum. Seems appropriate to involve him if possible since he was the first replication. If not how is he doing with his stuff ? Just curious.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Much bigger excess since he added… xenon…

  • Bob Greenyer

    now now…

  • Bob Greenyer
  • Josh G

    I like your style. You motivated me to get a paypal account and make a donation.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Thanks Husky again and thanks Josh G

  • Bob Greenyer

    Hi Guys – I am going to post the audio from the 2nd technical calls in a few mins.

    I am very tired and could do with some help transcribing the key points (there is lots of juicy stuff in there) If you can post it as steemit comments then I can cut and paste them into the main document.

    • artefact

      “Lots of detailed discussion on reasons for ultrasonics, pyrolysis, the history of his fuel development including the ‘hammer and anvil’. Grading the fuel.

      Discusses that he feels it is good enough to get out to start helping people before trying to make the next product.”

      https://soundcloud.com/user-554048314/ecco-technical-discussion-p03-2017-03-21-at-1544

    • Rene

      Bob, are they able to chirp the ultrasonic drive? Suhas says the particles have a range of sizes, so broadening the range of frequencies might bring to resonance a greater number of them.

  • Adam Lepczak

    Ultrasonic pulses seem are to be the key. Perhaps a similar setup/experiment should be conducted by the “dog bone” reactor?

    • Bob Greenyer

      Planning is underway – we have much of what is needed in place.

      Look out for the second set of technical calls with Suhas I have just done – LOTs of juicy detail.

      • Adam Lepczak

        Thank you Bob .As far as the formal experiment goes perhaps consult with Mats Lewan. Could he possibly attend and consult re: measurements and calorimetry? He was a technical expert during Andrea Rossi’s first public demo.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Good nomination

          • sam

            I nominate Mary Yugo
            A World expert in measurements.

            • Bob Greenyer

              er…

              • sam

                Hi Bob
                I just hope you avoid did they do the tests right,
                are they qualified,or a buddy
                that came up with the Ecat.
                Would there be any harm in
                an Email to M.Y. to see if he
                could recommend someone
                to do tests at a good price.
                Anyway that’s my 2 cents
                worth for today and whatever you decide is
                good with me.

                Regards
                Sam

                • Bob Greenyer

                  Worth co-opting yes – but that is not how MY works.

                  Thing is, it is beyond that – when there are 100 units out there in independent labs – what is he going to do then?

                • sam

                  I don’t know what M.Y. will do but if the technology is
                  tested in a few labs that
                  will be convincing one way or the other.

  • Bob Greenyer

    You’re very lucky – when you know how to make high spin mono atomic gold, you will be glad you have it. It is much more valuable than the sticker price.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Adamenko made gold long before Egely using low pressure discharge copper to copper… some specs were over 70% gold.

    Egely’s is potentially much more efficient if tuned.

    And that is just two examples.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Just had second technical call with Suhas – Fantastic detail – preparing post over next few hours.

  • Bob Greenyer
    • Wishful Thinking Energy

      Maybe this has already been mentioned, but is there any reason the reactor has to produce steam versus heated water? It’s much easier to measure water delta T versus water delta T plus steam quality etc.

    • Andreas Moraitis

      If the expected output is not too high, you could use an isolated tank with a looped connection to the reactor. The flow should be fast enough to prevent boiling. For example, with 1 kW average power you could heat up 1 m^3 water in 24 hours by about 20 degrees. You would not even need to know the flow rate, and it should suffice to measure the water temperature (after stirring and at multiple locations) once before and once after the test.

      • Bob Greenyer

        it is 8kw+ output

        • Andreas Moraitis

          OK, that’s too much. But you could use only one of the eight modules.

    • Wishful Thinking Energy

      Sorry Bob, I just read the last sentence in your document. Good, I’m glad that mass flow versus heat of vaporization calorimetry is the hoped for plan.

  • Bingo

    Where can we read more about Dr Suhas Ralker. I am struggling to get any hits on Google.

    • Bob Greenyer

      At the moment he wants it that way. No good can come from doxxing right now.

      • Fibber McGourlic

        Gosh almighty! Wikipedia has gone and doxxed 2,834,612 people. And Oxford has done another 55,000. And all those darned phone books!

        • SG

          Some people don’t want to be doxxed on the Internet. Give him a break.