Science Lessons from Cold Fusion/LENR: Webinar With Ruby Carat, September 24th

The Energy 2.0 Society is hosting a webinar which will be presented by Ruby Carat, the publisher of ColdFusionNow.org, documentary filmmaker and long-time advocate of cold fusion/LENR.

Ruby will be speaking about her experiences in the LENR field going back to 2010; she has interviewed many key researchers in the LENR field and has worked extensively to bring the subject to the attention of a wider audience, and document the history of the field. Ruby will also be happy to respond to questions from the webinar participants.

The webinar will be held on Saturday, September 24th at 10:00 a.m. US Central Time (3:00 p.m. GMT)

Participation in the webinar is free — you can register here (a link to the Webinar will be sent to registrants):

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhp2bzWSwWo3IZVr5MDHOeLxGTEjtZbi4r6zDsMK107bkAKQ/viewform?c=0&w=1

The webinar will be accessible live at: https://uni.zoom.us/j/3192736012

More information can be seen below.

http://www.e-catworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Ruby-Carat2-1.pdf

  • Alan DeAngelis
    • georgehants

      Alan and of course he was burnt at the stake by the religious. Dogma worshiping elite.
      The church has still not apologized for it’s terrible persecution of those brave Rebels willing to search only for the Truth.

  • sam
    • TomR

      Sam, do you or anyone else know what has happened to Robert Mockan? He used to post quite often. I know this question was asked a couple of years ago by someone else.

      • sam

        No Sorry, Robert commented before I even knew about this blog.
        He had interesting comments.

        A challenge to Robert Mockan
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        Robert – I enjoy your posts comments & stories immensely. Hope all the odd events are now past you & you are back to regular experimenting.

        Anyway, can you please comment on the following info I came across some months ago. It has intrigued me & am hoping you may have some insights. The secret catalyst part is the most interesting part for commentary.
        Thanks DSM
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Rossi states that he uses micrometer grain sized nickel dust enriched to contain more of two useful isotopes, N-62 and N-64. The nickel is then processed to increase the number of surface tubercles (protrusions) to provide greater area for heat producing reactions with hydrogen gas under pressure.
        **Secret catalysts** are added to break apart molecular hydrogen gas (H2) into atomic hydrogen (H1), and to make nickel more receptive to hydrogen nuclei.
        **It has been speculated that the secret catalysts are iron dust (about 10% by weight) and very fine carbon powder. The iron dust might be added to break apart H2 into H1, and the carbon powder added as a “scavenger” for contaminating oxygen, and perhaps for other, less obvious purposes.
        The low energy nuclear reactions (LENR) that result when heat is applied, drives the nuclei of hydrogen atoms into the heart of the nickel, turning small amounts of nickel isotopes N-62 and N-64 into the copper isotopes CU-63 and CU-65.” 
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Pekka Janhunen dsm
4 years ago
Not surprisingly, no one seems to know what a secret catalyst is. But in his recent presentations Celani reportedly uses copper alloyed with the nickel (some off-the-shelf commercial alloy from Germany) and apparently has had some success.


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Robert Mockan dsm
4 years ago
I have many questions about many of the things Rossi has said. Until he discloses more details about his catalyst and activator, we can only speculate. I addressed this issue at my blogspot “Open Source Nuclear Fuel” last year. The November 29, 2011 article is titled “A Possible Activator For Gas Loaded LENR Reactors”. If you Google my name and “open source nuclear fuel” you can find it.
A couple other articles at the blogspot might also be of interest.
”Hydrino Activator Used In E-Cat?” dated Dec 1, 2011.
”Making Nuclear Active Catalysts From Nickel Metal Salts”, dated April 25, 2012.
Testing potential LENR catalysts or fuels is not particularly difficult, so I suppose some person will eventually replicate what Rossi says he has . 


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dsm2 Robert Mockan
4 years ago
Robert
Once again very interesting commentary – your insights are very good. 


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Robert Mockan dsm2
4 years ago
There is a ScienceDaily article dated May 17, 2012 titled “In Chemical Reactions, Water Adds Speed Without Heat”. The research noted that iron oxide, in the presence of trace amount of water, in hydrogen gas, accelerates the rate kinetics of activating hydrogen 16 orders of magnitude. This is like saying the catalytic activity of hydrogen is increased 10,000 trillion times!
I do not discount the possibility Rossi may be using iron oxide as an activator. Exposed to hydrogen gas in a closed container at elevated temperature some of the iron oxide would be reduced to iron and water (vapor). The water could then react with more oxide, and the activated hydrogen could spill over to the nickel particles, thus increasing the available active hydrogen for LENR.
The water would act as a secondary catalyst with the iron and iron oxide, increasing the active hydrogen for the the primary nickel particle catalyst enabling LENR.
(I do recall Rossi saying once there were 2 other elements added to the nickel that “activate” it.
Maybe iron and oxygen?)
Of course, this is all just speculation.
        Thanks DSM
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Rossi states that he uses micrometer grain sized nickel dust enriched to contain more of two useful isotopes, N-62 and N-64. The nickel is then processed to increase the number of surface tubercles (protrusions) to provide greater area for heat producing reactions with hydrogen gas under pressure.
        **Secret catalysts** are added to break apart molecular hydrogen gas (H2) into atomic hydrogen (H1), and to make nickel more receptive to hydrogen nuclei.
        **It has been speculated that the secret catalysts are iron dust (about 10% by weight) and very fine carbon powder. The iron dust might be added to break apart H2 into H1, and the carbon powder added as a “scavenger” for contaminating oxygen, and perhaps for other, less obvious purposes.
        The low energy nuclear reactions (LENR) that result when heat is applied, drives the nuclei of hydrogen atoms into the heart of the nickel, turning small amounts of nickel isotopes N-62 and N-64 into the copper isotopes CU-63 and CU-65.” 
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Pekka Janhunen dsm
4 years ago
Not surprisingly, no one seems to know what a secret catalyst is. But in his recent presentations Celani reportedly uses copper alloyed with the nickel (some off-the-shelf commercial alloy from Germany) and apparently has had some success.


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Robert Mockan dsm
4 years ago
I have many questions about many of the things Rossi has said. Until he discloses more details about his catalyst and activator, we can only speculate. I addressed this issue at my blogspot “Open Source Nuclear Fuel” last year. The November 29, 2011 article is titled “A Possible Activator For Gas Loaded LENR Reactors”. If you Google my name and “open source nuclear fuel” you can find it.
A couple other articles at the blogspot might also be of interest.
”Hydrino Activator Used In E-Cat?” dated Dec 1, 2011.
”Making Nuclear Active Catalysts From Nickel Metal Salts”, dated April 25, 2012.
Testing potential LENR catalysts or fuels is not particularly difficult, so I suppose some person will eventually replicate what Rossi says he has . 


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dsm2 Robert Mockan
4 years ago
Robert
Once again very interesting commentary – your insights are very good.
Thanks
 


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Robert Mockan dsm2
4 years ago
There is a ScienceDaily article dated May 17, 2012 titled “In Chemical Reactions, Water Adds Speed Without Heat”. The research noted that iron oxide, in the presence of trace amount of water, in hydrogen gas, accelerates the rate kinetics of activating hydrogen 16 orders of magnitude. This is like saying the catalytic activity of hydrogen is increased 10,000 trillion times!
I do not discount the possibility Rossi may be using iron oxide as an activator. Exposed to hydrogen gas in a closed container at elevated temperature some of the iron oxide would be reduced to iron and water (vapor). The water could then react with more oxide, and the activated hydrogen could spill over to the nickel particles, thus increasing the available active hydrogen for LENR.
The water would act as a secondary catalyst with the iron and iron oxide, increasing the active hydrogen for the the primary nickel particle catalyst enabling LENR.
(I do recall Rossi saying once there were 2 other elements added to the nickel that “activate” it.
Maybe iron and oxygen?)
Of course, this is all just speculation. 


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Robert Mockan Robert Mockan
4 years ago
The adding nickel isotope comment has always puzzled me.
The highest binding energy of ALL the elements is the nickel-62 isotope. That means any kind of fusion reaction with it requires energy, does not release it. It does not make sense to me that particular isotope would have an effect to increase LENR.


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dsm Robert Mockan
4 years ago
Robert
Thanks – will look at the link info – much appreciated








        • TomR

          Sam, thank you so much for posting Roberts thoughts here. I hope nothing bad has happened to him.

          • sam

            I hope he is OK to Tom
            It is interesting that you get to
            know a person somewhat on a blog through there comments.
            But if they choose they can vanish by quiting the blog
            and you may never hear from them again.
            Sam

            • sam
              • sam

                Robert Mockan
                4 years ago
                I do not see any one else explaining “heat after death”, so here it is. Means the same as when we talk about “self sustaining”. No input power, electrical or otherwise, to make the thermal power generation “go”.
                There still may be extra power in to keep a small cell at the reaction temperature, but when you have it “self sustaining” the volume of reactive material generating the heat could be increased until it provides enough thermal power to not only keep the reactor temperature high with conduction losses through the insulation to the environment, but also enough left over to convert to electrical power.
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                alex Robert Mockan
                4 years ago
                I wonder if they moved to load experiments if Heat after death would persist, or gradually extinguish.
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                alex alex
                4 years ago
                By load I mean something that receives work, like a heat sink or copper pipes with running water to remove a portion of the trapped heat within the device. The amount of work(heat) that can be drawn from the device, while the device maintains a self-sustaining condition would be different than just measuring while it basks in it’s waste heat trapped in the box with it.
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                Robert Mockan alex
                4 years ago
                Yes, that is why thermal power measurements should be available before designing a reactor. If a reactor is tested with an electric heater inside, and it maintains 450 c, the power needed to do that is the thermal power required from the LENR catalyst to maintain the same temperature. Any thermal power more than that could be extracted (with your heat sink or copper pipes) for use someplace else, or to convert into electricity. The LENR fuels need to be tested to find out how much thermal power per unit mass of fuel is generated at some high temperature. Once you have that information, you can calculate how much fuel you need, and the volume. That tells you the size of the reactor for that volume of fuel. Then measure how much power is needed to keep a reactor at some internal temperature and that tells you the minimum size of reactor, volume of fuel, and thermal power to generate to maintain th temperature. Anything larger than that provides extra thermal power. My rough calculations indicate a 55 gallon drum size reactor would be useful for a few megawatts of extra thermal power, depending of course on the exact ratio of thermal power per unit mass (and volume) of fuel. Once people know how to make the catalyst/fuel compositions that work well, there will be no stopping development of LENR applications.
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                Robert Mockan Robert Mockan
                4 years ago
                > Peter Roe

                That is right. Without insulation an active LENR catalyst and fuel composition
                might not generate enough thermal power to maintain a required reaction temperature for the composition, and it would cool off and shut down. The nuances of terminology used by different researchers in the LENR field come about because they often have different education and experience backgrounds. Put physics, chemistry, engineering, scientists, businessmen, entrepreneurs, and other professionals,into the same room and try to talk about thermodynamics, physical chemistry, nuclear physics, and an outside observer might wonder if any of them came from the same planet.
                Robert Mockan Robert Mockan
                4 years ago
                > Barry

                Yes and no.

                Unplugging and measuring the cool down rate is typically a calorimetry technique for determining any difference in heat over a temperature range, going up and going down. It is derived from a scanning calorimetry procedure used when measuring thermo-physical phase changes or reaction changes of materials under test, of endothermic or exothermic nature. If the cool down without external power (unplugged) is slower than the heat up with external power (plugged in), all other variables being equal, rate differences can be attributed to internal energy changes in the material under test. That may or may not actually correspond to net thermal power generation. That would be determined by integrating the internal energy changes over time. If the integrand result is equal then there is no net thermal power generation, and one could also say that there is no evidence for the existence of any “heat after death”.

                On the other hand, “heat after death” as originally used in the context of cold fusion by Pons and Fleischmann in their work with palladium and heavy hydrogen was the phrase used to describe what was happening when they loaded palladium rods with deuterium (an isotope of hydrogen called “heavy” hydrogen)and the rods began to generate thermal power that persisted when they stopped loading it (they used an electrolysis cell). They could put the rod showing “heat after death” into a laboratory flask or beaker full of water, and the small palladium rod by itself would continue generating enough thermal power to keep the water boiling for days and weeks.
                Everybody who saw the phenomena said it was the most amazing thing they had ever seen. That is what “heat after death” in the context of cold fusion, or LENR, typically meant. Later it came to mean any LENR reaction that kept generating thermal power after it was “unplugged”, so to speak, from the electric power source specifically used to start it. Also, the materials later might be loaded with hydrogen or heavy hydrogen from gas, plasma, chemical reactions, and so on, not just using electrolysis.

                What you asked with your question and description I would interpret as applying a scanning calorimetry procedure as I explained above, but the accurate use of the phrase “heat after death” in the context of cold fusion I would explain as I just did.

              • TomR

                Thanks again Sam, by going back 4 years and seeing how Robert Mockan was having trouble buying the things he needed to do the experiments, it really makes me wonder why he quit posting here.

    • sam
  • georgehants

    Many thanks to Ruby, ECW, MFMP etc. for giving there time to keep us all informed of these developments.
    Wait for the day when Frank can announce in triple headlines that Cold Fusion or any over unity power source, can be openly replicated.
    A four week Worldwide holiday would be in order, where possible (I think)

  • peter gluck

    I wish Ruby a great success, she is mre than excellent! Good science, a lady of culture and an artist. I hope she wil solve both creatively and diplomatically the problem of speaking about Rossi- and what.

    I hope in a high quality recording of Ruby’s Webinar.

    Peter