Interview With me356: Rossi Effect “Is Reality”

The following is an interview conducted via email with European LENR researcher/replicator who goes by the name of me356.

What first motivated you to get involved in LENR replication work?

From the beginning, I was interested in an alternative energy sources. I wanted to be completely independent from the current power plants. Later, with appropriate knowledge, I have started with a replications such as Joule Thief Ringers, static electricity capture, ground batteries, etc. With more or less success. One day I have saw LENR and work of Dr. Andrea Rossi. I was immediately impressed, but there was not too much time for a closer inspection. Finally replication of Prof. Alexander Parkhomov appeared and I knew I will replicate it. This was the motivation.

Can you say something about your name: me356? What is the reason you are keeping your identity non-public?

It took me about 2 seconds to create such nick. There is nothing hidden. Used only in LENR-field. I was aware of many reasons why it is better to stay in anonymity. I was sure that one day, it will work. It was just a matter of time. And for some people it will be a problem.

Can you tell us a bit about your experimental process — how much time do you devote to this work, and how frequently do you do experiments?

My business is taking me approx. 16 hours each day, including weekends. I can work always, if I want. There is nothing like finished work. It must be constantly improved – competition doesn’t sleep. This is giving me enough money for everything I could ever need. But without free time, it is very hard to do anything else. So I have to work even longer if I want to do something else or to make compromise (which has always negative impact). From the beginning, LENR experiments were pure hobby. Now I am spending a great amount of money of my company to buy everything necessary (especially materials).

Because we have very good experience in a worldwide business, we are working on a new products, we can potentially introduce also something different. Something such as LENR-based reactor. I am not relying on any investor or any donation, so I can spend more money on the research and if there is success and room for the product, it will become reality. If anything will fail, there is nothing to worry. We can work on the rest as usually. In this way, I can really realize what I am dreaming about.

When your talk about your business — What kind of business are you in, and is your LENR work part of your business, or separate from it?
I can’t reveal these details. When needed, additional workforce can be engaged. Soon fully working prototype will be finished, then the situation could change.

What is your motivation for continuing your work?

Cleaner planet, better world, no more fossil fuels, interest.

What are your thoughts on the “Rossi effect” (Ni-H-Li LENR)? Do you think it is real? If so, why?

There is no doubt about it, at least for me. I was sure it is working from the time I have heard about it. Recently, I have made many and many reactors that given strong answer where everything else was excluded (multiple times). I can’t be convinced more, it is reality. If this is not true, than something in the universe is really weird.

It sounds like you have replicated it, can you give a brief summary of what you found (temperatures, reactor type, COP, etc.), or maybe a link to a document?

Temperature (core) in range of 600 – 1500°C depending on the reactor. Reactor type – at least 4 different designs. There are advantages and disadvantages of each one. One is perfect in high temperatures, one in the COP, one can yield different kinds of products, one has very good heat convection characteristics, etc. COP – it is above 2. I don’t know the upper value, because very often reactor is melted in a few seconds. It could be even 10, but it is just guessing.

The first notable replication of something like an E-Cat was the work of Alexander Parkhomov in early 2015. It got a lot of people interesting in trying to replicate. What do you think of Parkhomov’s work, and why do you say for replicators not to waste time trying his technique?

Replication without knowledge of the process is nearly impossible. It is easy to build and very, very easy to fail. It is completely blind shooting. It is good for Mr. Rossi, but not good for replicators.

What do you think is an easier method than Parkhomov’s to get positive results?

Already published reports, that are not based on the work of Mr. Parkhomov. Unfortunately completely ignored. No one I know about tried to replicate it.

Can you provide references to the already published reports that you refer to?


Basically each report that was published is useful. I don’t want to point to any particular.

You have said that there are two critical parameters that are keys to have successful replications. Can you explain what those are?

Unfortunately no, at the moment.

At some point, will you share with the public what the critical parameters are — if so, when will you do that?
Yes, I would like to share details that will allow successfull replication, at least of the E-Cat technology. The main concern is safety. When I will be certain, that what will be revealed is safe, I will publish these details. LENR has so big potential that we can’t imagine it. I believe that it will be used everywhere.

What do you think is the key to a successful E-Cat style replication?

Patience and time.

What other types of LENR reactions are you attempting, and what results have you seen?

Current results are very good, but because of this, there are technical difficulties I have to solve. It is quite hard, but once all are solved, it will be just perfect. Then it can be dimensioned for 10W units but even for 10kW without any problem. Progress is very fast at the moment – it just takes a long time until required parts arrive to finish some improvements.

I am spending hours just with thinking about solution. Then days with realization to find, if it was really good. It looks like there is not a good solution at all. There is one prototype that I am very satisfied about, can be extremely cheap to produce, will offer stable output, but there is overheating issue in areas that can’t be too hot.

If there are things you are not ready to disclose, can you explain your reasons for not wishing to do so?

Safety, safety, patents, risks, many things to lose.

  • Sanjeev
    The site went dark.
    That’s what I mean when I say people with some success in CF start disappearing.

  • Roland

    Thank you for remaining circumspect, ME356, as apparently little attention was paid to what I think is a critical phrase; to quote “because very often reactor is melted in a few seconds”

    Prior experimentation has noted significant releases of non-ionizing radiation attending this threshold event. The reaction going exponential (in addition to providing the experimenter with a vivid testament of the reality of LENR) till the apparatus melts down is broadly considered to be the gateway to realizing the necessary conditions governing controlled reactions; reaching this stage also entails obvious risks for the poorly prepared.

    Your placement of safety, safety at the head of the your hierarchy of values, and that you appreciate that this admonition applies to more than the immediate physical risk, speaks wisdom to me.

    • Roland


      In a massive public relations exercise, widely thought to be instigated by the People’s Liberation Army, the well known PR firm APCO has demanded that all the data, designs and methods related to contemporary LENR research and products be immediately conveyed to the PLA as proof of the reality that LENR apparatuses with a COP of >1 exist.

      With the ability of the Chinese economy to establish global hegemony through economic means alone thrown into doubt by the eminent collapse of their financial sector and the prospect that the build out of the PLA’s next generation strategic hardware might be limited by available funds the CCP, it has been widely rumoured, turned to APCO to secure the technology that will insure that the PLA will prevail in the upcoming military conflicts over the South China Sea that many observers believe will determine the long term survival of the CCP.

      When reached earlier today a PLA spokesperson denied any commercial relationship with APCO.

      APCO representatives were unavailable for comment before press time.


  • R101

    Thanks ME365 for taking the time to answer Franks questions. I’m hoping that you can also be a part of the new energy future. Keep up the great work!.

    Frank, thanks for asking the questions too.

  • : ) We know with certainty that me356 is not Elon Musk. It may be the one thing we actually know.

  • Rene

    Oh my, this is the classic “If you are not of the body then leave” believer response with a selective out of context quote. To bring back the context I also wrote “…For both of them the only rational choice to take is to wait for them to put something out in the market.”

    I am here because there appears to be a strong possibility of LENR and their are others here working to uncover the means to make it happen, openly. BUT, I am not going to be a true believer. They chose secrecy, fine, now they can deliver product because they are not helping the common good, Until then, what they say is unsubstantiated hoo doo. It is better to support open science.

    • bachcole

      Rene, Frank deleted my response, and after reading your whole comment, I am glad that he did delete my response. I apologize.

      I do not know any true believers here. I also do not want to be a true believer. But faith has to come into one’s thinking somehow. I have faith that my wife is coming home tonight and my son will be home before 2:45 p.m. like I told him. I believe the 2013 Lugano and 2014 Ferrara (sp?) reports. Rossi has delivered (for me) in the past. So I tend to have faith in him. (My son just got home in time.) But Rossi’s latest magical and wonderful E-Cat X is just one miracle too far for me without confirmation, particularly in light the age related physical decline I see in his pictures. But I am utterly and deliberately neutral with regard to the E-Cat X; my credibility meter is deliberately stuck at exactly 50% until we get some independent confirmation. But you seem to be saying that it just ain’t so, and I do not see that the evidence warrants that position.

  • Thomas Kaminski

    I think we agree. I am perhaps a bit more sarcastic in my presentation. The Atom Bomb research led to the construction of fission-based nuclear power plants. They are now showing that theory reduced to practice might have some unforeseen economic consequences. The hydrogen bomb might have given fusion credibility, but the economic cost of reducing it to practice on a commercial scale is yet to be shown. Numerous experiments have shown that F&P were correct. LENR is in the state of development that is on the verge of economic significance. My point was that since both fusion (via the hydrogen bomb) and LENR (via evolution of F&P experiments) are true, why is it that fusion research (via ITER and other hot fusion experiments) get the funding and LENR does not? Also, why is it that LENR demonstrations are attacked because of experimental inconsistencies, but hot fusion is deemed to be true? I think it has more to do with politics and entrenched researchers who vigorously defend their work. Also, a bit of collective shame that weapons of destruction could not be re-manufactured into tools for societal good.

  • This is how we know me356 is worthy of significant attention:

    From Bob Greenyer below:
    “I have designed and conducted experiments with him, slept in his lab, ate with his extended family and visited him Physically 3 times over the past year. We supplied materials, loaned equipment, including our Optris and Power Analyser for more than many months when they would otherwise not have been used and I provided many of our best insights to him, insights discussed elsewhere publicly, even here, but not acted on by other parties.”

    • psi2u2

      I agree, this is a strong statement of Me356’s sincerity, preparedness, and character. We anxiously await further evidence.

  • Wrong. I totally understand how economies work, I am not a socialist. I am not saying that either Rossi or me356 should be GIVING away their work. But if they have what they say they have, they shouldn’t be keeping it to themselves and a handful of other people. If they can demonstrate beyond a doubt that this works, they could easily get investments worth billions of dollars. Could walk into any of the biggest companies in the world and any one of them would be willing to invest massively. Any sane government would jump at the first opportunity to involve itself in this IF it was proven beyond a doubt that this technology works, that the claims of excess heat with high COP are true. BILLIONS of dollars of investment would be a piece of cake IF Rossi or me356 or Parkhamov have what they say they have. And seriously, prooving that is not some hokus pokus, it is not something unattainable, it should as a matter of fact be easy considering the massive energy production that is being claimed. Look at the enormous investments that are being made in hot fusion, even if any potential useful solution is decades away. If governments or large companies thought that they actually had a better solution available to them NOW, they WOULD invest very big money in it, more than in hot fusion. I am starting to think that either these guys(Rossi, me356, Parkhamov, Songsheng Jiang) don’t have what they say they have, or they are crazy enough to think that they need to keep it to themselves. If they have it, then they are pointlessly delaying the utilization of an extremely important discovery… it just doesn’t make sense to me anymore.

    • Albert D. Kallal

      But is not that what Rossi just attempted to do?

      Before money and mass-production we need durability testing. LENR been known to work for a long time.

      So in the case of LENR, one can’t raise much money until such time one has something of commercial value. So I think it would be smart to say building a working plant, perhaps run it for about a year to prove it works. And along the way you hire someone to log the data. After that, then additional millions or billions can be raised.

      Oh, wait!!!!

      I kind of thought that’s what just was attempted – was it not? A yearlong test with the ERV?

      On the other hand, Apple took about 6 years to make the smartphone – if they had spilled the beans during that time, they likely would have lost and wasted all that effort to the likes of Motorola, Samsung and rather established players in the marketplace. Apple did not build cell phones. And everyone was looking to EXIT the cell phone market!

      In other words, Apple would have risked losing their farm.

      Same goes for Rossi. I think SRI would have been a great independent test lab, but with Beryllium involved with SRI, then Rossi can’t really trust them, could he?

      I mean, IBM had Microsoft work on and create their OS2 Warp system – but that really just resulted in IBM funding the development of windows for Microsoft. The result was IBM lost OS2 warp and their efforts to Microsoft. All IBM did was fund Microsoft to build an OS to put IBM’s OS warp out of business. (and they have teams of lawyers to try and prevent this – it meant little).

      Sony had the same problem with Palm. Sony used the Palm OS for their PDA’s. So when Sony innovated and wanted larger screens and new cool features (like camera) etc., then they went to Palm and asked for changes to the OS.

      The problem was then Palm always turned around and came out with products based on Sony’s requested changes.

      So, who you going to test your product and ensure they not run away with that product? From what we heard, IH started taking out patents on LENR against Rossi’s wishes.

      In fact if Rossi did not fire off a lawsuit, he likely wind up with nothing and likely broke and penniless. Tesla is a great example of someone who wound up broke and lived his days out in poverty. Yet EVERY TIME we turn on lights in our
      house, the electricity we use, or the wireless radio when we use WiFi or the
      radio are we using inventions by Tesla.

      If you can come up with a better process to prevent those with this technology from being raped, and not dying penniless, then I all ears, but looking at history – the track record not very good, is it?

      And the steps Rossi taken to develop the ecat seems logical. Rossi had planned production, but required investment money and thus delayed production for a yearlong test. (now I will admit, many things Rossi has done don’t inspire confidence).

      The governments have known about LENR since the time of Pons & Fleishman – go talk to them as to why we don’t have LENR.

      Seems to me Rossi already attempted some tests – and stealing of his technology looks to already have occurred. But hey, no problem with how Pons and Fleshamen were run out of town, lost their jobs, lost their careers.

      And hey, no problem how Tesla lost everything and died penniless!

      So just look at what occurred to Tesla, P&F and even now it looks like Rossi experiencing these issues too!
      So Rossi did do demos, did do tests, did raise the money he required. Such tests can’t give away everything else he wind up like what occurred to P&F, Tesla. And even the banks did not support Apple – they used Venture capital to launch the Apple II.

      Albert D. Kallal
      Edmonton, Alberta Canada

      • Hey Albert, thank you for those long replies. I am absolutely not a socialist, and am not expecting Rossi or me356 to give anything away for free. I am simply saying, that if they had what they claim to have, they should be making sure that this discovery is being utilized to the maximum of it’s potential. Not tinkering away alone or with a handful of friends, but with billions of dollars of investment and hundreds or even thousands of scientists working on it full time. If they have what they claim to have, then getting enormous investments from large companies or from governments, would be a piece of cake. So much money is being invested in hot fusion, with the promise that one day in the future, probably many decades away, it will be an viable energy source for mankind… if those same people could be investing that money in a better solution that can work TODAY, of course they would! If you are able to produce large amounts of energy with a simple LENR device with a high COP, and prove it, then there are billions of dollars of investments waiting. Everybody would be fighting to get aboard the LENR train. I have become more sceptical about the future of LENR, after the latest developments between Rossi and IH. It just doesn’t make any sense for IH to be trying to “cheat” Rossi in any way, if the e-Cat really works as promised. If the e-Cat is real, they would have been the luckiest company in the world with their 100 million dollar investment… why should they risk loosing the license of the greatest invention of our lifetimes? It doesn’t make any sense. I still have some hope left, but more “Rossi says” or “me356 says” is not enough, I think it is time we see some real proof.

        • Albert D. Kallal

          I suspect IH thought they were not risking loosing the license, and that they obtained enough know-how to not need Rossi anymore. Why pay Rossi when he turned over the IP rights?

          After all, what happed to Tesla? He died broke and yet brought us all these amazing technologies. So IH likely thought they did not need Rossi anymore and thus why pay someone 90 million when you don’t need them anymore?

          As for general investment into LENR?

          Brillouin has verified working reactors that were tested by SRI (Stanford research Institute). I don’t think you can have a more high quality lab and research institute verify ones product.

          Now, after above, Brillouin made a presentation and information session at the US Capital building in Washington.

          What else should they do?

          And after the above, where are the billions of funding and investments pouring into Brillouin then?

          The simple matter is investment into such new technologies will take time.

          But what should Brillouin have done different than the above?

          The problem as I see it is political correctness by governments and then toss in a HUGE portion of government people whose research dollars and grants would dry up – in effect your government selling you out.

          This occurred with P&F, and it is occurring now. In fact the largest department to lose out will be the climate and global warming clowns. I mean who paid for 50,000 people to attend the Paris climate summit in December? All they did was wine and dine on French food and YOUR tax dollars!. And they obtained billions in pledges from their governments. Now 50,000 people is HUGE number of people but that’s ONLY the ones lucky enough to be sent by their governments on your taxpayer dime to enjoy French food. MANY more people in government did not attend the climate summit. You think these folks met in France to figure out how to get LESS money from you? Heck, 50,000, that got to be as many people who attend the commonwealth games. These people are going to vote to loose their government jobs?

          Keep in mind global warming funding is now equal to, or in excess of cancer research. With LENR, that massive part of your government and the guilt trip of raising your taxes based on your sins of CO2 will be gone if your government supports LENR.

          We have verified tests from SRI and presentations on Capitol Hill of LENR– clearly such actions were not sufficient – what you suggest that Brillouin have done different here?

          Albert D. Kallal
          Edmonton, Alberta Canada

          • I am not very well informed about Brillouin, but I believe they have only demonstrated reactors producing a few watts. That just doesn’t have the same impact, just isn’t as convincing, as having a e-Cat that produces tens of kilowatts with a high COP. Much easier to do measurement errors with few watts, than with kilowatts of excess heat. At the same time, if they DO have working reactors that create a few watts of excess heat, that would certainly be something that should be investigated further and invested in, but it wouldn’t immediately have the same attraction for investors as the e-Cat potentially could have(if it worked as promised and could be proven to do so).

  • LCD

    Lol, i like the attitude but honestly maybe a bit too early for an interview. I mean what was the point?

  • psi2u2

    It’s 1. Its just a fact. ; )

  • psi2u2

    “many people” is a concern that I take lightly, thankfully.”

    Bachole strikes again.

  • psi2u2

    Very witty. I hope you are wrong.

  • psi2u2

    Having the advantage of all the comments the conclusion is pretty clear to me. Thank you to Bob, once again, for filling in critical details to clarify the facts. It would be nice if others asked more questions and did less speculation, it seems to me.

  • Steve Savage

    Snakes and Clowns … funny YOU should bring that up

  • Thomas Kaminski

    I guess that I could raise the same issues as we hear from the anti-LENR crowd: Was it independently verified? What did the researchers do to collude? Was their instruments properly calibrated? One of the researchers was thrown in jail (this actually happened to a fusion energy researcher at UW-Madison).

  • Well. That is my opinion in any case. If the e-Cat is real, then there is no excuse whatsoever for not utilizing this miracle of an technology on massive scale, of not even making it available to more than a handful of people. Rossi presented the e-Cat in january 2011 promising to have products on the market in a matter of 3 months… now we are in 2016 and still nothing has changed, no product, no big customer(like Apple, Google, GM, NASA) that can openly vouch for the technology, and the reports from the few tests that have been permitted have not stood well against scrutiny. I am not saying Rossi or me356 or others should neccesarily be giving the technology away for free, but just keeping it to themselves is in my opinion a very wrong approach. If this was real, it would be so easy to get massive funding. I am sure that the U.S. governement(or any government for that sake) would absolutely love to massively finance further research on this, if the effect was proven to be real. If it was real why in the world would IH throw away their golden goose that they could make billions with, because of a measily $89 million dollars(would be peanuts if the e-Cat works as promised). Well, maybe it just isn’t real..?

  • Bob Greenyer

    I have designed and conducted experiments with him, slept in his lab, ate with his extended family and visited him Physically 3 times over the past year. We supplied materials, loaned equipment, including our Optris and Power Analyser for more than many months when they would otherwise not have been used and I provided many of our best insights to him, insights discussed elsewhere publicly, even here, but not acted on by other parties.

    To be clear, we have seen evidence of COP > 1 in multiple experiments and apparatus type in both Celani wires (Constantan + Hydrogen) and Li Al Ni Hydrogen research. None have been too large to be beyond doubt.

    We have seen radiation multiple times in Celani wires and *GlowStick* experiments – despite a lot of experiments, we, and 3rd party observers, have been unable to find adequate alternative explanations for these observations.

    • we-cat


      Thank you for this info. Much appreciated. Do you know in what area me356 advanced to get to easier to verify surplus heat?

      Also, many thanks for your hard work and persistence.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Hi we-cat,

        I drew his attention many ‘big potential win’ ideas that have been put out by other parties or that came out of our research or my understanding – he had no exclusivity – he appears to have actually bothered to test them though and combine that with paying attention to the Russian work. If he has something significant, and I do not know he has, it is because he has bothered to try – and he definitely is bothered to try and is a capable multi-disciplined individual.

        I need to see data, I am not very good with opinion in a matter such as this beyond sharing what I have witnessed one to one so far.

  • SD

    MFMP lent equipment to me356 last year IIRC.

  • BillH

    It’s not, but I would argue that it’s necessary for understanding. For example, many people have interpreted what AR has posted, and got it completely wrong.

  • akupaku

    Me356 sounds like Rossi 5 years ago, I wonder if it will take him/her 5+ years to build a stable reactor?

    Anyway, good luck!

    • me356 has already invited Bob Greenyer of MFMP to visit him.