ECW Orbo Testing — Orbo Cell Now Behaving According to Steorn’s Claims (New Video Posted)

We’re into week 8 of the Orbo testing, and finally I am in a position where I think we can test on an isolated Orbo cell without any interference from internal electronic components.

It’s taken a long time to get to this point, but with the orbo pack that Steorn sent, it seems that the internal voltage controller (which is not an orbo component) had been draining the Orbo cell on o1-2, which was causing the pack not to operate as intended. (Steorn has since informed customers who have ordered Orbo products that they have found problems with the charge controller, and are currently testing a solution.)

If you haven’t been following the threads (I don’t blame you if you haven’t so far!) in a nutshell, I’ve found a way to disable the internal voltage controller on the ports o3-4, and test directly the cell on the o1-2 side of the Orbo pack. This is backwards to how Steorn intended this pack to be tested, but according to Steorn, o1-2 is also an Orbo cell, so it works for testing purposes. If that’s confusing, please refer to the video below for hopefully a clearer explanation.

So with this new approach, I have done some new testing, and what I’ve found is that if you put a load (I am using resistors) on the o1-o2 side of the Orbo pack, the cell will discharge — doing a little work in the process — and when you take the load off, the cell will recharge itself. And so far I have been able to repeat multiple discharge/recharge tests and so far have seen no noticeable degradation in the cell.

This is what Steorn claims happens with Orbo cells, and they have shown this effect in some testing videos they have released.

In the discharge/recharge tests I have been doing, I have not added any external bias voltage. Steorn says that a bias or ‘reference’ voltage can assist with the Orbo recharging, but it’s a lot simpler not to include it.

I have found that after a discharge, the cell will gradually climb to around 3.69-3.70 volts on its own. It might go higher if I left it longer, but as it climbs higher the rate of increase slows, so I haven’t left it long enough yet to see where it might max out.

I haven’t done any power calculations yet, but the raw data is being recorded in the spreadsheet. If anyone would like access to the spreadsheet to include some calculations/charts, etc. please let me know ([email protected]). I would welcome some help in that area.  My intention is to continue the charge/discharge testing for a long time now and keep posting the data for people to look at. Of course I welcome any suggestions for further testing.

Data from discharge/recharge tests done so far can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UBIA4JTDb_kBwoytR9LP7OP7tH63yUeiPn2kKye4frY/edit#gid=0

So that’s how things stand at the moment. I would say that the signs are now more hopeful of confirming Steorn’s claims than I have seen to this point.

Mar 29, 2016

Here’s a video I made this morning showing a quick discharge/charge cycle using a 22 Ohm resistor. Notice on the recharge some unusual readings. I’m not quite sure what to make of it.

 

For reference:

Week 1 thread
Week 2 thread
Week 3 thread
Week 4-5 thread
Week 6-7 thread
The Google document started by Ged which summarizes key information from testing so far .
The Spreadsheet with the terminal readings from the ocube
Spreadsheet with ECW testing data with the power pack from the ophone
The video posted by Steorn showing some of the inner workings of the Ocube

  • Bob Tavis

    Except no one is subsidizing him now.

  • http://www.overunity.com/ Stefan Hartmann

    The Steorn Facebook page has gone…
    https://www.facebook.com/thebatteryisdead/
    no more available…
    Seems they have problems to get their hardware to run…too bad…
    Frank did you now finally extract a Orbo cell from the goop ?

  • Jarea

    So, in short after 10 months of testing, Frank, please, could you answer the question.
    does it work or i doesnt?

    • Frank Acland

      The units I was sent did not work like they were supposed to. But I have seen some unusual activity in during testing which makes me think they still might have something.

      • Jarea

        If Orbo goes into selling to users, then you need to provide a working product. Don´t forget how much you have to pay for that Orbo (around 1000$). If it doesn´t work please dont be shy to say that this was a SCAM. A simple battery.
        They are responsible and guilty of their own reputation. I think Frank it doesn´t help to stay on the doubt so that they don´t receive the feedback they deserve.
        This is very sad, and if we have to learn about that, it means that there are people that are able to lie a lot, in order to sell their products, even if those products are not ready. The are able to produce a great marketing campaign and convince you but in the end is only smoke. That make other adventures that may be true more difficult to believe.

        • Bob Tavis

          Selling a working product is basically true for anything sold. Look at the problems Samsung is having. If the proper engineering is not done prior to a product being sold chances are there will be problems. It is just common sense. The testimonies of a working Orbo had only come from Steorn or people close to them. No outsider could confirm it. It is hard to imagine that 100% failure rate of Orbo was not caught before being sold. That is either incompetence at the highest level or it is a con.

          With the shoddy history of Steorn over the last ten years the latter seems most probable. Not one of their various Orbo iterations has ever been proven to work by anyone outside of the company. Why they thought they could actually sell a non-working product baffles the mind. What could be the possible motivation for doing something so idiotic? Perhaps we will never know. As it stands right now Steorn is non-existent.

          Having worked for an electronics manufacturer for 23 years I know first hand the potential problems with releasing a product before it has been properly alpha and beta tested. But often the demands of marketing override engineering concerns and there is always a price to pay for that shortsightedness. Large companies can usually recover from such mistakes but for small companies it can be death.

          Personally I never thought Steorn really had engineering expertise and for a company offering free energy the stakes are very high to be able to demonstrate that you have what you say you have. The bottom line with Steorn is either incompetence or a con. Even worse is if it was an incompetent con.

      • Zephir

        I still think, that Steorn technology could work, particularly because many similar devices emerged.

        The Steorn Orbo project was just killed by poor implementation, based on
        cheap Chinese components without deeper experience in electronics and
        testing. I do appreciate your patient work, despite your lack of experience is apparent here too.

    • Bob Tavis

      If it worked why would Steorn have stopped shipping units and basically gone into oblivion?

  • davidbyrden

    WELL, THE STEORN INVESTORS SHOULD BE SMILING NOW.

    They should be rubbing their hands with glee as the value of their shares climbs through the roof.
    And why?
    Because the world is suddenly full of “Pokemon Go” players; people wandering the outdoors with a permanently “on” phone, running an app that’s a battery hog.

    What do those people, every single one of them, need now? A self-charging battery, of course!

    So; the investors should be smiling. They shouldn’t be angry and sheepish and frustrated.

    If you’re a Steorn investor, would you mind speaking up here? Tell us how you feel.
    Did you learn anything from this whole debacle?
    Was it “pay attention in high-school physics”?

  • davidbyrden

    “steornnews.com” is apparently gone. The domain is paid up until next year, so I have to assume that the website was deleted.
    Was the website owner involved with Steorn? Because this is unusual behaviour. When you get tired of your website, usually you ignore it, you don’t take the trouble to delete it. The site was left unattended for weeks on prior occasions.

  • http://www.overunity.com/ Stefan Hartmann

    Hi Frank. When are you going to extract an Orbo cell from it ?

  • Frank Acland

    Hi Markus,

    Yes, I just bought an Arduino system and hope to be able to have automated measurements posted. I need to first figure this system out.

    Meanwhile you can watch Steorn’s livestream here: https://www.twitch.tv/orboteam

    • Bob Tavis

      Any word from Steorn on sending new Orbo cell now that their testing is completed? And I see they have started selling product again on their website.

      • Bob Tavis

        Oh, they are “sold out” again. Business must be brisk.

    • DrD

      Any update Frank, on either of the units?
      I found your work to be far more interesting than watching the livestream.

  • davidbyrden

    The “product release” may lead to another visit by a journalist. Now, we’d all like more information from inside Steorn, so I hope you don’t mind me posting this here (Steorn’s FB page would be a better place, but of course they would delete it):

    To the next journalist who visits Steorn; engineers and accountants are usually members of certifying institutions (such as the IEEE). As such, they are obliged to *tell the truth* regarding their professional work. When you visit Steorn, ask to speak with such individuals.

  • Bob Tavis

    From Orbo FB page: “Please bear with us a little longer folks, we will be live streaming final tests later this week.”

  • Phillip

    Steorn is acting exactly like Steorn. It’s been a decade of: 1) Huge announcement, 2) Slow build up, 3) Promise to reveal, 4) MIssed due date, 5) Farcical Delivery, 6) Radio Silence.

    There should be zero expectation of anything concrete coming out of Steorn because they’ve proven over and over they are incapable of delivering anything concrete.

    The most interesting thing they have done during the entirety of the Orbo history is having the o-girl pop out from under the table with a beer during their Orbo release video. If that doesn’t show the mentality with which they’re approaching this whole endeavor I’m not quite sure what does.

  • Alex Fenrick

    So let me understand your statement there Mark. Dave should not be discouraged by “people like me” who point out that components like a capacitor that are used in pretty much every electronic device on the planet…a technology that was invented in 1745 is well known NOT to be able to produce The Orbo Effect aka over-unity is all of a sudden a logical choice to start looking for how to replicate the impossible?!? That is pretty much like trying to build a quantum computer…but stepping back to traditional transistor technology when you find that you do not understand the underlying process of how a qubits state gets set. Using basic building blocks of a technology or a field is one thing of course….but to look at this with such a rudimentary view of considering traditional capacitors or electrets as the route to now explore makes absolutely no sense to me.

  • Frank Acland

    It’s been another interesting day with the Orbo cell. I had left the cell to recuperate for a day and a night, and put on the 77.7k Ohm resistor It dropped pretty hard for the first couple of hours, hitting below 1.5 volts, and this afternoon and evening it has been climbing, now over 1.8 volts. I’m never quite sure what to expect — https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UBIA4JTDb_kBwoytR9LP7OP7tH63yUeiPn2kKye4frY/edit#gid=0

    • SG

      Does seem mysterious and not what one would expect from an RC + battery circuit, but I guess we already knew that based on our previous observations. While the power output is still far lower than expected, there nonetheless appears to be energy coming out of the Orbo cell, and from whence is still up in the air.

      • Alex Fenrick

        SG….you would agree that “Orbo cell” could absolutely still be a battery whether it is a tradtional one that the circuitry is allowing discharge rates that Steorn had designed or a catalyst type battery correct? I just want to make sure that the behavior Frank is seeing is not assumed to be “Orbo effect” as we are still yet to find evidence of that….

        • SG

          It is unclear. The only way to know for sure is to extract enough energy from the unit to rule out a battery based on volume/weight of the unit. At the rate we are extracting energy, it would take a loooong time.

          So, Sanjeev took a different approach in comparing the Orbo’s behavior to what would be expected from a typical RC + battery circuit, and made some preliminary determinations that it was unlikely to be such. DrD did some further analysis and provides some speculation above. We have noticed behavior over the course of the test that does not fit with the battery hypothesis, such as sudden voltage jumps and cyclical behavior.

          But again, with the unit we have, with the performance characteristics it exhibits, there is no way to draw any certain kind of conclusions. So, we’ll have to wait for additional hardware, which Steorn has promised to send.

    • DrD

      Hi Frank, I attempted that simulation and this is a reasonable analogue that comes close to emulating the behaviour.
      Please note, I am NOT claimng that this is necessarily what’s actually inside, just that it is one (simplistic) possibilty.
      The values are not correct, I spent much time trying to optimise them to emulate the actual behaviour over the correct timescales but gave up and for that reason I haven’t posted plots of the simulation results but I can if anyones interested.
      V3 is either a battery OR a generator (e.g. Orbo Electret). It’s output voltage I assumed was fixed but it would still work if allowed to change slowly.
      C1 is a very large capacitor, representing the main capacitance (possibly of the ORBO cell itself. R1 is the internal or series resistance of the generator (OR the Orbo cell). C2 isa relatively smaller capacitance across the output terminals (O1,2). R2 must be another internal resistance. The way it works is that C1 charges (from V3) or discharges (Via R2 and the load) very slowly, taking hours or days to show a significant change.
      C2, being smaller and with less series resistance is able to discharge and charge fairly quickly.
      With no load (no output), C2 (O1,2) will charge fairly rapidly to the same potential as C1 and will then only change very slowly, at the same slow rate that C1 is charging at.
      This simple combination explains why we see fairly rapid changes on output voltage that at some point change rate (slow down) or even change direction.
      It does not explain the jumps or small “cyclical” bahaviour that’s often superimposed on the background rate. I assume these are related to the electret behaviour.

      • DrD

        An improved match:

  • DrD

    Even more interesting behaviour there Frank:
    It was fairly stable over the previous few days in that it was outputting about 40uW whilst O1-2 remained almost constant at about 1.7V.
    You removed the load and O1,2 “shot” up to 2.4V in only about 2 1/2 hours.
    You added a load and it output about 40uW (average) and “quickly” fell back to about 1.6V in less than 1 1/2 hours.
    This very clearly confirms the memory effect that we discussed earlier.
    I think I could simulate this behaviour with a small capacitor (maybe with a moderate series resistance) in parallel with a large capacitor with a large series resistance.
    If I get time, I might have a go (with the simulation).

    Maybe I could see if a battery (flat battery) could logically be included.
    Dave

    • Frank Acland

      I decided to let it sit for a day and try again with the same load and see if it acts differently. Shaun told me once that it takes time to recover from a discharge.

    • https://pissedthefuckoff.wordpress.com/ Mark

      Sounds good, to me. Isn’t The Orbo Power Pack kinda made like a capacitor? if you can cause The Orbo Effect to happen with only “normal” capacitors and/or electrets, then we might be able to start making our own Orbo-Effect-powered machines, and sidestep all of the incompetence that these clowns at Steorn are putting us through if we want to see Orbo-Effect-powered machines up and running.

      • DrD

        Hi Mark. The simulation I mentioned was only a computer simulation based on Capacitances (R-C circuit) to attempt to reproduce the short term and long term charge-discharging behaviour based on a generic battery or some kind of generic generator. Sorry if I raised your hopes that I could make a capacitor work as a generator. Anyway, YES your right I believe the claim is that the electrets act as very large capacitors amongst other things.

        • https://pissedthefuckoff.wordpress.com/ Mark

          It’s cool, man. Computer simulations are cool, too. I was just saying to not be discouraged by pseudoskeptics who think that they need to understand something before other people are allowed to do experiments.

  • Alex Fenrick

    I gotta give David a gold star on this one. How did we not think of this before now? I think I am gonna try to create an Ocube simulator and see if I can get similar results.

    • Frank Acland

      Please do, Alex. I was thinking about trying it myself too.

  • Alex Fenrick

    We are mere hours from Steorn posting a video as promised on Facebook last week. Shaun at Steorn commented on March 22nd that they were testing the solution to the charge controller board problem…so I would think he should be presenting good news after this amount of time for testing. A video explaining further delays will be the last nail in the coffin for this skeptic lol. This should be interesting…..

    Orbo facebook page last week:
    “Folks, we’ll be posting a new video around the middle of next week so please tune in then!”

    • Frank Acland

      I hope there’s some progress to report in getting their products sorted out. Delays and setbacks have been the norm for Steorn over the years, but I’m not ready to give up on them, especially since I continue to see quite interesting behaviour from the cell I am testing. I’m glad they are continuing to work away on Orbo.

  • Frank Acland

    Thanks for the suggestion, David. I may do something like that, but first I’d like to see what the next move from Steorn will be, and see how much I should invest in more rigorous testing. They said they’d be posting a new video this week. I hope at some point they’ll send devices that work as they should.

  • Frank Acland

    The latest discharge test has been quite interesting. I decided to take the bias circuit off and just left the 64k Ohm resistance on. Over the last couple of days during the discharge, while the trend is downward, there has been quite a lot of voltage surges and spikes in the process. The latest readings are at the bottom of this growing spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UBIA4JTDb_kBwoytR9LP7OP7tH63yUeiPn2kKye4frY/edit#gid=0

    • DrD

      Hello Frank,
      Yes, it does look a bit like it’s reaching a plateau but not really long enough yet to be certain about that. It might eventually fall to zero.
      I’ve also been wondering if those “cycles” are a kind of hysteresis.
      If we assume that the internal generator is not able to supply all of the output because the 64k was a little too small then O1,2 will fall. HOWEVER, as O1,2 falls the output also falls because it’s related to the potential of O1,2 but not just linearly in fact it falls according to the square of V (P=V^2/R).
      So, if generated power is less than output power then O1,2 falls until generated power is greater than output power. For a critically damped system it will reach equilibrium and stay there but if there’s some hysteresis it will oscillate. It might or might not settle down given enough time. It’s only a theory of course.
      I think there will be a value of R which should create this behaviour at different levels of O1,2. When we were doing the 146kOhm trial we saw this but with the bias applied. I calculated that we could possibly achieve the same “oscillating equilibrium” WITHOUT bias by using 235k for O1,2 = 2.5V and 193K for O1,2 = 3.4V.
      I appreciate all this isn’t answering the question a lot of followers are asking but it’s interesting all the same.

      • Frank Acland

        Thanks DrD, can you think of a situation in which a battery or capacitor might act like this?

        • DrD

          No I really can’t. Unfortunately that doesn’t prove it couldn’t. I suspect some one will come up with a theory, like a faulty control chip.

          • Ged

            I guess the real question is what is the cumulative energy use looking like now?

            • DrD

              On paper, it totals a mere 8mWh
              https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UBIA4JTDb_kBwoytR9LP7OP7tH63yUeiPn2kKye4frY/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=923656187
              But that’s not very accurate because it’s been reset to zero many times and there’s been quite a few accidents where unknow energy was extracted. Also some unknown input events.
              What’s interesting at the moment is that it has no “conventional” input but seems to be outputting a fairly constant 48uW. The cell voltage (O1-2) is very low at only about 1.7V so it may not be working (generating) efficiently and there’s a hint of it still falling very slowly so in a few days it might reach zero but so far it’s been doing this for a few days.
              I think we have evidence that it can sustain a sufficiently small output of about 15 to 20uW with O1,2 up at about 3V with no applied bias.
              Personally, I don’t believe there’s any kind of battery in there but that’s only an opinion. SO to me, the question would be, first can we prove the 15uW won’t degrade O1-2) and then can we exclude the possibilty of 15uW from conventional energy harvesting.

  • Sanjeev

    Looks like Steorn sent another email with more apologies.
    http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2016/04/steorn-stirs/
    They are not totally gone yet. Hopefully we will hear some more next week.

  • https://pissedthefuckoff.wordpress.com/ Mark

    You’re misrepresenting me. I didn’t say, “you don’t need to know,” I said that he needs to figure it out, himself. Of course, Frank came in and explained a bunch of stuff to him that was already known, and would have been known to anyone who was paying careful attention. I, personally, hate explaining things to people when I think that they should already know, or be able to find out, easily.

    • Bob Tavis

      Wait a minute. I only came here a week ago so I do not know all that transpired over the last two months. And asking questions is typically the way you find things out. And I did pay attention to what Frank said and thanked him. If you hate explaining things then do not respond and let someone else who has slightly more tact than you have respond. It’s not like I was grilling or demanding anything from you or anyone.

  • gdaigle

    Steorn posted on their Facebook site: “Folks, we’ll be posting a new video around the middle of next week so please tune in then!” So perhaps we will hear the outcome of their charger redesign.

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks, Greg. Glad to hear of some action.

    • Alex Fenrick

      Thanks for the info! Something tells me this will be a video to facilitate yet another well placed delay since I would think Frank would have received some sort of device by now if not. Just a thought….

  • Frank Acland

    No, it does not perform as it was supposed to. But I’ve found a way to do some testing on an Orbo cell, which is better than nothing, but not ideal, of course.

  • Bob Tavis

    So, in other words you have no idea. Perhaps someone else paying attention to this thread can give an overview on what the point of testing a non-working device is? If it is to find out why it is not working then essentially it is doing Steorn’s job for them, gratis.

    • Frank Acland

      Well I wouldn’t say the cell we are looking at is non-working. It exhibits some interesting behavior, enough to keep me interested in continued testing. But some people aren’t that impressed, so feel free to ignore.

    • https://pissedthefuckoff.wordpress.com/ Mark

      Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I know that there ARE points to this testing, and I don’t need to justify it to you.

  • Frank Acland

    No I don’t know anything about their internal testing, and I haven’t received any input about my own testing for the last few weeks.

    • Bob Tavis

      It seems to me that close coordination with Steorn would be appropriate considering this has been going on for over two months without any conclusion per se. And yet, you may receive another unit to start this process all over again?

      I applaud your ongoing effort but doesn’t that sort of make the last two month’s effort kind of pointless? I must be missing something but this is coming across as being very strange on the part of a company who started rolling this product out six months ago as a done deal. Does anyone fully understand what is really going on? I certainly don’t.

  • Alex Fenrick

    Frank…I’m sure you would post it here…but just curious if you or anyone has heard from Steorn as the weeks continue to roll on. I recall recently you remarked they were sending you a new unit, yes?

    • Frank Acland

      Yes, that’s the latest, but still not sure when.

  • SG

    On 4/18, between 19:21 and 20:29 we see an O1-O2 voltage jump from 2.696 to 3.4. During that same period, the voltage of the bias battery also increased from 8.81 to 8.91. This seems to contradict OM’s hypothesis that the O1-O2 voltage jumps are due to a quick discharge of the bias battery, because at least in this instance, *both* the O1-O2 voltage and the bias battery voltages increased. Accordingly, it seems that something else is going on in the Orbo cell.

    • DrD

      I agree and it’s a fairly significant change and is also about the time the temperature dropped. I find it hard to believe it was caused by temperature change though. I was actually looking for a correlation between the three parameters but wasn’t expecting a step function. I suppose it could be due to some domains recovering and I think it’s how Frank said Shaun describes it (step changes).

      • DrD

        Another interesting observation:
        The two readings before the change (19.03 and 19.21) indicate a significant change in bias current.
        Note how the 19.03 reading had 6.348V across the 979,000 Ohm resistor.
        Then at 19.21, the battery V showed a big fall where as the O1,2 actually rose 6.114V across the bias resistor,
        This gives a significant change in bias current from 6.2uA to 6.5uA.
        The load current hardly changed at all.
        Then following this we see the O1,2 jump.

      • Alex Fenrick

        DrD…curious if you recall where Frank and/or Shaun speak about the step changes so I could take a look. Forgive me if I am missing something blatant, but in my experience with charging circuits, the only time I really have seen stepping similar to what we are seeing is through poorly designed or malfunctioning charging circuits…pretty much the exact same behavior in fact. I wish I had kept some of that data from my scope from testing such circuits in the past to compare. While we are obviously dealing with technology I have never touched…I have worked with catalyst time-activated batteries as well as extensive work with NiCad, NiMH, Li-Ion, LiPo etc…and without charging and/or regulating circuits attached…I have typically always observed fairly linear curves without these odd steps that I cannot account for. I definitely must have missed something in the discussion of the steps. I can do some searching if you do not recall how far back those discussions go. I can’t wrap my head around how those numbers would be that large in that time window if the device is in fact charging itself via the cells even if it is a domain issue. If this is nonsense….please just yell at me as I admittedly am not up to speed specifically on the “stepping issue” as I should be!!!

        • DrD

          Hi Alex, I think it was only in a skype conversation between Frank and Shaun, many weeks ago. Perhaps Frank can elucidate. I don’t doubt that a faulty circuit, something as simple as a dry joint could look like that but if Shaun says that’s what they see on a regular basis i would tend to lean towards that being the same effect. I don’t pretend to understand this energy gathering mechanism, unless it’s a trick like a hidden battery. I know there are theories about how it works but I’m not convinced by any of them. Neverthless, something’s generating power.
          I see the output began to fall yesterday after that rise and Frank removed everything, maybe to give it chance to recover.

          • Alex Fenrick

            Thanks DrD….I will see if I can find that conversation. I am just curious to hear Shaun’s reasoning for why we would see such steps.

            • Frank Acland

              There wasn’t much of an explanation from Shaun. Just that he said the charging behaviour of the Orbo is unusual in that it can jump up suddenly, rather than in a linear fashion. He may have said something about domain alignment being involved, but I don’t recall the details.

  • DrD

    Frank, I hesitate to ask more of you but is there any possibilty to record the air temperature close to the Orbo pack at periodic intervals, just for a 48 hour period. There’s a hint that O1,2 peaks late evening.

  • Frank Acland

    Thanks, OM — I did check the resistor, it still reads 979,000 Ohms. It does seem okay. You are right, the battery voltage readings are not uniform. I am using a rather inexpensive “heavy duty” batter (zinc-carbon I believe), not a higher grade alkaline battery.

    • OM

      Then, perhaps, we have the opposite situation?
      The connection is broken most of the time, but restored sometimes? (for example, something wrong with a wires?)
      To check this you can connect directly the resistor to the battery and measure the voltage. Does the battery voltage decreases when the resistor is connected?

      • Frank Acland

        With the resistor attached, circuit not attached to the orbo, the voltage reads 9.04V

  • Frank Acland

    No, its the problem with the experimenter, not the equipment. Sometimes when I move the device or transport it (I dropped it once too) I get wires crossed. I need to be more careful and probably insulate the resistors and wires better.

    • DrD

      It’s still producing interesting data. The accidental shorts mean we’re under estimating energy out but it’s on the safe side. I wonder what is the origin of the backround fluctuations, it might be ambient temperature but could also have other origins. Also, does it follow a pattern/trend.