Holmlid-Olafsson Slideshow on Ultra-dense Hydrogen and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (Atomecology.com)

Thanks to Russ George for posting a slideshow on his Atom Ecology blog that was presented by Leif Holmlid and Sven Olafsson on the subject of Ultra-dense Hydrogen and Low Energy Nuclear Reactions that was presented at Stanford this spring (no date published)

The slides can be seen at: http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2016/04/04/homlid-olafsson-rydberg-fusion/

Below is a summary of the key points presented.

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  • Sanjeev

    I can’t help but notice the words like “can be”, “seemingly”, “if confirmed” etc and many question marks.
    Looks like another word soup without any solid experimental proofs. We need more experiments, not theories.

    • f sedei

      An inconclusive study, indeed.

    • Axil Axil

      The experiments have requested that their experiments be replicated. Nobody has stepped up to the plate here. Unless the experiments are widely duplicated, the results are uncertain. How about you, instead of criticizing these results, replicate them.

      • MasterBlaster7

        I would like to refer to Dr. Edmund Storms. He feels that to get a handle on LENR through experimentation, About 1 billion dollars needs to be spent on research. He thinks it is similar to the problem they were having with hard drives before they really understood the concept of a clean rooms. They sunk a billion dollars in to figure that out. Makes sense.

  • artefact

    On JONP Rossi wrote
    “Andrea Rossi April 5, 2016 at 7:16 AM
    Sverre Haslund: I can confirm that the so called Rossi effect does NOT produce muons.
    Warm Regards, A.R.”
    Which should mean, that Rossi does not think this (ultra dense hydrogen) is the main reaction.

    Edit: LuFong, you beat me by a few milli seconds 🙂

  • LuFong

    Sverre Haslund
    April 5, 2016 at 3:01 AM

    Dear Andrea

    Can you confirm if the Rossi effect produce muons ?

    Warm regards,
    Sverre Haslund

    Andrea Rossi
    April 5, 2016 at 7:16 AM

    Sverre Haslund:

    I can confirm that the so called Rossi effect does NOT produce muons.

    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Zephir

    Prof. Holmlid is rather enthusiastic regarding his “Rydberg matter” model, but IMO Friedwardt Winterberg understands the situation better.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/4d7aoo/spontaneous_ejection_of_highenergy_particles_from/d1ocb5o

    Also “Rydberg matter” is somehow unlucky denomination, as the Rydberg states and atoms are traditionally connected with extremely low energy density and sparse matter – not extremely dense one. If this deuteron phase exists, I’d call it rather electron degenerated matter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_matter

    • http://www.russgeorge.net/ russ george

      Invoking Winterberg, a pure theorist, in the context of Homlid a true experimentalist is simply poppycock of the worst sort, especially where the exchange becomes pure semantics. But then again that is the nature of today’s sciences, worst of all physics, as facilitated by the internet which is inhabited by countless butts sitting in chairs with fingers attached to keyboards and little in between. There has never been a theorist who could hold a candle to a real experimentalist. If you have a choice to make of who to follow, choose the one who is in motion as opposed to the one fixed in place, at least then you have a chance of getting somewhere!

      • Zephir

        On the contrary: the theorists are specialists on doing of theories, models and explanations, whereas the experimenters are experts in experimentation. And Holmlid is not even physicist but a chemist of atmospheric science – and quite frankly, it’s still apparent in some of his deductions. But anyway, I’m considering his opinions as seriously, as the opinions of others.

        • http://www.russgeorge.net/ russ george

          Yeah from time to time some of my favourite people have been theorists… alas it is a difficult swamp to survive in.

      • Zephir

        /* If you have a choice to make of who to follow, choose the one who is in motion as opposed to the one fixed in place, at least then you have a chance of getting somewhere! */

        I can fully understand your despect of theorists after ninety years of their dismissal of cold fusion reality – but the fact remains, the frontier roles of both experimenters both theorists are balanced: both they can occasionally show, where to go with new theories and new experiments.