New Huw Price Article: “Is The Cold Fusion Egg About to Hatch”?

Huw Price, Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy and a fellow of Trinity College at the University of Cambridge has written a new article on the Aeon.co website about LENR, and how he thinks it could be ready to explode on the world scene. The article is titled “Is the cold fusion egg about to hatch?” and can be read here:

https://aeon.co/opinions/is-the-cold-fusion-egg-about-to-hatch

Dr Price refers to an article he wrote three months ago titled: “The Cold Fusion Horizon” in which he talked about the “reputation trap” the field suffers from — meaning that discussion of the subject is so taboo, that people steer clear of the topic to avoid tarnishing their reputations.

He writes:

Not surprisingly, some readers weren’t convinced. Some concerned commentators even worried about what the piece would do to my own reputation. So, three months later, am I having any regrets?

On the contrary, the story has become even more interesting, in my view. I want to offer some updates for readers who weren’t persuaded last time that these developments were worth following for themselves. And I want to sound a note of caution for anyone who still feels confident that they can continue to ignore the field. If LENR is on the verge of a comeback, the reputation trap will turn inside out very, very quickly. No one wants to be the last ostrich to pull its head out of the sand. You have been warned!

He goes on to mention many of the developments we have discussed here, such as the conclusion of Rossi’s E-Cat test, the MFMP’s claims of X-rays being a signal for LENR, and the recent statement from Industrial Heat about their continued work in the LENR field.

He sees the signs as being positive regarding the emergence of important developments in cold fusion, and ends with a challenge:

We don’t know how this story ends, but with the players now involved, it is hard to see how it could be anything but interesting. Perhaps it’s time for the science media of the world to find some backbone, face down the reputation trap, and start paying attention?

  • DrD

    He cant releasè all, not If they are his trade secrets.

  • Barbierir

    Imho: if the time for secrets is over depends on the Ecat being reliable for large scale manufacturing. Rossi says it is, but we know from past experiences that he tends to be too much optimist. If, let’s say, the Ecat has a failure rate of 10% it remains a scientific breakthrough but it’s not a product ready for the market.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Or was it something more primal than that (that was dressed up as “being responsible”). Fleishmann and Pons were just not in their club. They felt threatened.

    “Success has enemies! (Successo ha nemici!)”.
    http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/03/21/e-cat-1mw-plant-test-results-watch-thread/#comment-2570312706

  • Oystein Lande

    Will not the Rossi “ERV” be ridiculed by all the mainstream scientists If he concludes positive outcome of the 1 year test? I can see the headlines “third party reviewer fell for Rossi scam”. Will he be able to report objectively?

    And how will Rossi resolve issues If the ERV concludes differently than Rossi’s own measurements and calculations ?

    I tried to Ask Rossi but he spammed my questions…Wonder why?

    • Albert D. Kallal

      Well, Rossi seems confident with his results.

      There little reason to think that the ERV report will be negative.

      However I do agree that skeptics will NOT accept the ERV report anymore then say the 3rd party report.

      However, if a major news outlet goes with the story and interviews say Tom Darden about the results, along with video of the plant in operation, then yes, this could be some event!

      I don’t think the ERV will be that “historic” event for LENR, but it simply another step until this story breaks out!

      The real issue I see is near ZERO reason exists for IH to release this information at this point in time.

      Regards,
      Albert D. Kallal
      Edmonton, Alberta Canada

    • Bob Tivnan

      You raise many good questions. I imagined that the ERV would be an institution with scientific credentials (hopefully) rather than one individual. Even so, it’s hard to imagine a reputable outfit even taking this risk given that cold fusion had been essentially blackballed by the established scientific community. One way to temper the criticism is to have other scientists co-sign the report to show that they agree with the methodology and support the ERV’s conclusions. Or perhaps IH is working to establish a high profile partner (GE?) to sign on based on the ERV report- which would also take a lot of heat off of the ERV. All of this behind the scenes maneuvering takes time, which is may be the reason for the delay we seem to be experiencing. Or this could all be wishful thinking on my part 🙂

      • passerby

        Stanford (SRI) did not have any problem verifying the LENR results of Brillouin.

        Sure, on the internet you have many armchair physicists that enjoy getting recreationally offended by the notion of controversial science that offers a potentially high reward payout. But in the real world there are probably many organizations that care more about getting the lucrative ERV contract than some imagined PR problem.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    This proves that Rossi and the Wright brothers had the right
    approach. Just make it work. Seeking the seal of approval of academia is a big waste of time.

    • Mats002

      Inventors precursor academia. True now and always was.

  • Alan DeAngelis
  • catfish

    I don’t think the fact that TESLA is cancelling the Powerwall is a coincidence. Solar is dead. There will be uses for home batteries but they will have to drastically rethought in a post-LENR world. The nothing you hear is the sound of solar and wind just dying. Coal’s about to hit the ground too.

    • Frank Acland

      I don’t think Tesla is cancelling the Powerwall product, just one model of battery:

      http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/03/tesla-wont-be-making-10kwh-powerwallsits-7kwh-batteries-only-for-now/

      “Tesla has decided that it won’t be making the 10kWh stationary storage batteries it unveiled last April, instead focusing exclusively on the 7kWh version.”

      “The 10kWh version of Tesla’s Powerwall was made to be used as backup storage only—its nickel-cobalt chemistry limited the user to cycling the battery 500 times, so daily use was out of the question. The 7kWh battery, on the other hand, is made to integrate with solar panels, and due to its nickel-manganese chemistry, Tesla said it could be cycled 5,000 times.”

  • timycelyn

    A very useful piece of advice:

    “When you have nothing useful to say, say nothing.”

  • f sedei

    The sad corruption of our established scientific world is about to be publicly exposed, and the new uplifting world ignited through LENR for the betterment of humanity that we believers anxiously awaited.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Note to self: Short Ostrich meat market. Yield about to exceed market capacity.

    • clovis ray

      I feel that crow meat ,might be on the menu as well. Huh

      • US_Citizen71

        I’d invest heavy in that market if you have the means there will likely be a shortage.

    • Fedir Mykhaylov

      Excuse me, but maybe your parents wanted you to called Valkyrie?

    • Frechette

      I’d invest in the chicken business. There will be a lot of eggs on people’s faces.

      • timycelyn

        Chicken sheds as well, I would suggest. There will be an awful lot coming home to roost soon…

  • tobalt

    It’s interesting to see his approach in contrast to that of Brian Josephson. I guess Huw might have learnt from what happened to Josephson. So the first article that Huw posted as we went public with his opinion regarding LENR is a discussion about a reputation trap. That is well played I have to tell and maybe it is indeed not physisicts or other natural scientist that can turn the tide but guys like Huw coming from philosophical/sociological fields.

    • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

      Every field is intertwined.
      Fleishmann was not a physicist, professionally, but a ‘british chemist’, says Wikipedia.
      How can sociology, psychology, politics, philosophy not be considered active parts in this reputation trap, which seems to be all about “scientific proof” (evidence and the scientific method)? Even the semantic and semiotics fields have been at war over LENR in the last 25 years.
      Emilio Del Giudice (a LENR pioneer physicist at the Italian Institute of Nucler Physics) spoke about the potential harmony permeating our beings, communicated through water, in a medical research conducted with Nobel Price laureate Luc Montaigner (a virologist, the discoverer of the HIV infection): DNA strands can be stimulated and transmitted through electromagnetic waves in water at 7 Hz (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1012.5166v1.pdf).
      It seems that many aspects of life are interdependent…

      • drjohngalan

        Martin Fleischmann was a brilliant scientist – always seeking to find out something new. His career (and Stanley Pons’) was destroyed because what he found out was not acceptable to the established scientific consensus.

        • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

          Fleishmann & Pons were real, incredible scientists, betrayed by what they believed was sacred, the scientific community itself; their work sacrificed on the altar of greed and convenience.

  • hempenearth

    Lol, proud to be a small part of this “gaggle of commentators”

    • MasterBlaster7

      Yah. That comment irked me too. It’s as if he is chiting on the importance of or roll. Not that we have the power to MANIPULATE public opinion the way a Washington D.C. think tank and its associates do. The importance of our roll is to preserve the truth should some ‘power that be’ seek to discredit and/or make LENR disappear. Should that ‘power that be’ (energy companies)cough…emerge for said purpose we would be the man in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square; The kid, setting himself on fire in Tunisia sparking off the Arab Spring; over the unfairness of it all. So, I would qualify us as a little bit more than a ‘gaggle’ even if our roll is, hopefully, not needed.

      ps. To be clear, I’m not setting myself on fire for LENR…but I might stand in front of a tank; haha.

  • Fedir Mykhaylov

    For ostriches important not to get a concussion when lenr will be reinforced concrete fact.

  • Gerard McEk

    It is great to read Huw’s words. What we all have felt for years are now so beautifully casted in his article. Let us hope the ERV report comes soon and the scientist ostriches have lifted their heads before, otherwise they will stay in the dark for ever, ridiculed by those who had the courage to see the light.

  • SG

    Good to see a prominent science philosopher weighing in on the fascinating phenomena of human reactions and psyche as it relates to the LENR phenomena.

  • Carl Wilson

    Reputations traps are recursive. If you mention that something might be such a trap, you too are trapped. And by mentioning that second trap you are trapped. I escape because I have no reputation.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    http://realfoodforager.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/90_off.jpg
    on the tuitions of the marbled institutions that set LENR back a quarter of a century.

    • LilyLover

      The cost is not that of tuition – it is the cost of 5 star hotel-esque treatment for every not-dumb-as-a-rock kid for four to six years of on campus dating to be able to get into long term debt so that the vultures can play with their lives with paycheck to paycheck manipulation of interest on debt, credit score, military participation and blind jingoism as the only easy way out of the trap to be finally paid by the blood of the few.
      What comes free in Germany, our kids must pay “for it” because “we” are the “free” country.
      Nonetheless, even if education were free, they’d have invented a ritual of kite flying on the Harvard square with participation price of 20 years of income.
      Who can save the willing sheep from themselves?

      I could; but my willingness is fading day by day and I’ve begun to wonder what’s wrong in sheering the sheep for my own pleasure, especially when they are gonna worship me for it? And especially, when I work for their upliftment, they begin to hate me… Oh well, I’ll be the good guy and fight the right fight – because my Mom told me so.

  • Marklearn

    I feel as though I have a front row seat as the curtains are about to be drawn revealing one of our planets most epic moments. I am thrilled to be part of the audience here and I am awaiting with an eager anticipation.