First Home-based Tesla Powerwall Battery System installed in Australia

Off-grid living is a hope for many of us, and on this site we have been talking for a long time about how LENR could make that a viable and inexpensive possibility. But LENR, of course, is not the only energy technology that can be used for this purpose.

Home-based solar installations are becoming increasingly popular in some parts of the world, and now Tesla Motors is beginning in Australia to roll out its Powerwall batteries, which are designed to solar store energy in homes which have solar panels installed.

This article in Mashable looks at the first home-based installation of a Powerwall system: http://mashable.com/2016/01/28/first-tesla-powerwall/#vt.mqVTNsgq9

Tesla has focused on Australia for its Powerwall roll-out because it has a sunny climate and a growing base of people using solar panels, and grid-supplied electricity is also very expensive relative to other countries.

The article features a homeowner named Nick Pfitzner who has the first Powerwall installation in the country.

From the article:

According to Pfitzner’s calculations, for his family, there should be a return on investment in less than eight years. “If [power] prices go up, or in the likely scenario we get a carbon tax back, it’s going to be good.”

Not content with simply installing the Powerwall, Pfitzner said he is planning to look into reselling his stored excess power at peak times. “That’s the next step,” he said “With solar power, I can resell a little back to the grid.”

I would imagine this would be seen as an attractive proposition for many homeowners who can afford to do it, especially where utility bills are high and there’s plenty of sunshine. Energy independence is an attractive idea for many people, and I would imagine that Tesla will get plenty of interest in their Powerwall systems, and will provide some competition to companies like Leonardo Corp. who are still working on domestic LENR products.

  • Roland

    Yup; this could be seen as primarily a branding exercise aimed at long term market share while the next generation of battery technologies matures. Seen in this light you’d have to admit it’s going well as half the people on the planet know something about Musk’s electric projects, if only by the names…

  • clovis ray

    Hey Frank, i noted you have changed the finish date to 58 days, why for did you do that. lol, did i miss something.

    • ecatworld

      Hi Clovis — based on this from AR today:

      Curiosone
      February 1st, 2016 at 8:52 AM
      Dr Andrea Rossi,
      I understand that the tests of the 1 MW E-Cat will be co,pleted by the end of March: is this deadline still valid?
      Thanks,
      W.G.

      Andrea Rossi
      February 1st, 2016 at 9:07 AM
      Curiosone:
      If we’ll have not surprises from Her, I would say yes, it makes sense.
      Warm Regards,
      A.R.

  • clovis ray

    well I see gorge has turned another perfectly good conversation into a political tale of his crap . Ideas, am sick of his hijacking every post, i went back to the archive to see what Rossi had said about something over two years ago and guess what, there he was whining about capitalism, great Scott, how long are to endure this

    • georgehants

      clovis are you still whining? unfortunately for you free speech is still allowed in some parts of this World.
      Your desired dictatorship where everybody thinks as you is very unlikely to be excepted by the majority in a democracy.

  • Atsom

    See who is designing tomorrow!
    See up to the end.
    https://youtu.be/b5GP2mYU568

  • Gryphon

    Will these Li-ion cells even last the 8 years this guy needs to achieve payback?

    • Teemu Soilamo

      The warranty is 10 years.

  • GreenWin

    Nice to see mass marketed off-grid solutions coming to fruition. This helps the future of home-based E-Cats and LENR. Of course I’d far prefer an E-Cat in the basement requiring one annual fuel charge – as opposed to monthly/weekly cleaning and maintenance of rooftop PV. But Musk and Tesla are to be congratulated for pressing the distributed energy concept which must gain consumer acceptance for home LENR to thrive.

    BTW, Tesla Powerwall has some competition: http://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesignArticles/ArticleID/11328/Tesla-Powerwall-Has-Competition.aspx

  • theBuckWheat

    NB: Every solar panel that is in direct line of sight of a nuclear EMP explosion will instantly be totally destroyed. This is due to the inherent nature of the way that PV solar cells are constructed. Thus,it is foolish to use PV solar for more than just a few percent of utility base load capacity.

  • Gerard McEk

    This wooden box at the last picture seems to me the battery box. I do not think that looks very sophisticated and in fact quite bulky. It is also wrongly mounded according to the arrows on the box. When it is just 7 kWh that box is extremely large. (Just imagen that the Tesla cars have a 80 kWh battery on the bottom plate). Anyway, I wouldn’t want to have such a box on my wall, Elon….

    • Gerard McEk

      By looking at it again, I think the first two pictures show the final situation. I am not sure why the box was mounted on the wall, though.

      • Jimr

        I don’t believe it was mounted, I believe it was the shipping container with the battery inside before installation.

        • Omega Z

          Probably the box is to cover the battery from exposure to the elements?

          Anyway, behind the box, the battery is mounted to the wall.
          Unless they found a way to levitate the box. There is no support beneath it.

          • Jimr

            I agree it was placed after installation, but believe it is the shipping container. Notice this side up. It is not a permanent fixture.

  • fusionrudy

    Ultimately the market will decide on the basis of total lifecycle costs between solar+storage and LENR. This could of course be influenced by political factors such as subsidies/taxes. But large scale LENR has the special potential to replace the existing fission reactors, since the rest of the installations (turbines, generators etc.) can be kept going for a long time with this new heat source.

  • georgehants

    Admin says “independence is an attractive idea for many people” well our Cold Fusion is still being hidden, debunked and denied by almost all our establishment, we are almost exclusively relying on Mr Rossi and his end of test due in 27 days.
    On the other hand Solar Power is well advanced and improving all the time, but as I have pointed out before all the unemployed in the UK could be employed at almost no cost to manufacture and fit solar panels leaving us almost energy independent in daylight hours in no time.
    Yet again very few on page seem to be aware that only capitalism stops such clearly beneficial action from taking place.
    Perhaps fair argument could be shown as to why such a course of action should not be utilised Worldwide
    No nuclear power, coal, oil, gas needed beyond that necessary for night time usage.
    Relatively no energy bills except maintenance and renewal in say 20 years etc.
    ——-
    Solar Energy Needs Smart Solutions, Not Dumb Economics
    http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/25/solar-energy-needs-smart-solutions-not-dumb-economics/

    • http://renewable.50webs.com/ Christopher Calder

      You need to read the book, *Free To Choose*, by Milton Friedman.

      http://www.amazon.com/Free-Choose-Milton-Rose-Friedman/dp/B000N55A48/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1454343916&sr=8-2&keywords=free+to+choose

      It was also a ten part TV series on PBS, which you can get on DVD.

      http://www.amazon.com/Free-To-Choose-Complete-Television/dp/B001DHTHZ8

      I mailed copies of the book to Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin back in the early 1990s and I think it helped. One of them, I forget which, visited Stanford University on their visit to the USA and meet with Dr. Friedman.

      Chairman Mao once thought that sparrows were destroying China’s food, so he ordered them all killed. That lead to an insect infestation that destroyed more crops than the birds. Chairman Mao Tse-tung’s infamous Great Leap Forward five year economic plan, which is estimated to have killed between 20 and 43 million Chinese over a short three year period. Mao had faddish, unscientific ideas about how to grow food, and he banned private farms in 1958 in his shift to communes and greater industrial output at the expense of agriculture. This led to a 15% drop in grain production in China in 1959 and another 10% reduction in 1960. Communism does not work, and socialism, taken to serious levels, does not work either. Free choice is moral and it works.

      • georgehants

        Christopher, as usual you are simply engulfed in a particular way of thinking.
        My comment and question is clear, I do not need a repetition of a indoctrination, but a fair discussion of the merits or otherwise of the completely different suggestion I have made.

    • US_Citizen71

      I would say the current flavor of socialism prevents it from happening. If wide implementation of solar was done like a last century WPA project then yes the 2 million unemployed in the UK could make it happen quickly. But, you need to change the laws to get those 2 million off of the dole and either build the factories or convince someone to build the factories and use those currently on the dole to produce the panels.

      • georgehants

        US, now that I thought is what our politicians, economists and so called clever peoples are meant to do.
        I think you are mistaken in believing that many unemployed would not willingly work for society if they could see the benefits.
        Only capitalism demands a pool of unemployed suffering.

        • US_Citizen71

          Actually capitalism works best when all are employed. Difficult to buy things and make the economy go round when you don’t have a job.

          • georgehants

            I can put up a thousand links but this one is independently thought out.
            ———-
            capitalism requires that there be not just unemployment but that the unemployed be unhappy. I say so for three reasons:
            http://mattbruenig.com/2012/02/19/unemployment-is-a-structural-problem-in-capitalism/

            • US_Citizen71

              Interestingly in the comment section the author writes –

              “Matt Bruenig Mod Chris • 3 years ago

              I don’t think it is a problem that 4-6% of the population is unemployed at any given moment provided that they are taken care of and not living badly as a result. I wrote this post mainly because I get angry at people blaming unemployed people for being unemployed when at capacity it is really not their fault. I mean, the only way they can get a job is to displace someone else, who then becomes unemployed and who now I guess becomes the target of the unemployed hatred.

              That is, I think we would all do well to realize that this is a structural problem and apply that understanding on the individual level so as to be less blamey.”

              • georgehants

                US, thanks, you quote “this is a structural problem” confirming that it is part of the system which the author explains very well in the main text.