E-Cat Wafers Will be Manufactured ‘Like Microelectronic Components’

If you read Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat patent you will see that at the heart of the device are what are referred to as ‘wafers’ which contain the essential elements to make the E-Cat react: hydrogen, lithium, lithium aluminum hydride, and and a group 10 element such as nickel, and also a heat source.

Rossi has confirmed recently on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that the plant currently under test are using this wafer technology. Today Rossi was asked another question about the wafer.

Theo Blount
December 24th, 2015 at 11:11 PM
Dr Andrea Rossi
If the E-Cat X will be produced in very small dimensions to be eventually assembled to reach any power, how will be possible to reproduce the wafers of the charges described in your US Patent?
Merry Christmas,
Theo

Andrea Rossi
December 25th, 2015 at 8:22 AM
Theo Blount:
The robotized lines will produce the wafers with a technology similar to the one used to make microelectronic components. I cannot enter in the particulars.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

It’s fascinating to think that E-Cats of all sizes could someday be spit out on production lines like transistors or computer chips, and make units of any power rating needed. I wonder how far away we are from this kind of development.

Today I received an Amazon tablet that can do a lot of things that any PC could do. I could probably run this website on it, and do all the communicating and surfing that I need to do. It’s on the low end, but very adequate for basic usage, and the total cost was $35 (a Black Friday deal). My point here is that it has components inside it that at one time were probably very complex to desgin, very bulky, and very expensive to make. And now, with advanced manufacturing techniques, it is very easy and inexpensive to produce these terribly complex items.

Probably the E-Cat wafers would be a lot simpler to make than a tablet/smartphone/computer since I assume there would a lot less complex electronics involved — so maybe in a few years time they might be able to make E-Cat reactors for just a few dollars or even pennies each.

This is just conjecture at this point, and there’s a long way to go, but I find the possibility of mass production in this manner very intriguing.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Maybe this could be a way to make an alumina layer in a wafer:
    “Nanogranular Al2O3 films were deposited by the plasma-enhanced chemical vapor deposition (PECVD) method using gas sources of trimethylaluminum and oxygen at 100 °C.” http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2013/tc/c3tc30137k#!divAbstract
    But lithium and LiAlH4 would react with oxygen they would have to be applied separately. Maybe a tetrahydrofuran solution of LiAlH4 could be sprayed on and the tetrahydrofuran could be removed under vacuum.

    • Owen Geiger

      How are the wafers bonded to each other?

  • georgehants

    Morgon, thank you for repeating your answer.
    Unfortunately your ideas of “fantasy” are a fantasy, perhaps you would like to try and understand the concept better before repeating blindly the usual propaganda fed to the masses.
    It’s all a little like having to repeat over and over to closed-minded scientists that Cold Fusion exists.
    Denial is not going to make them look very clever in the end is it?

  • Owen Geiger

    On my wish list is an article than recaps all of Rossi’s new breakthroughs this year. Frank?

    • Pekka Janhunen

      A good start:

      Andrea Rossi

      December 26th, 2015 at 8:30 AM

      James Watt:

      Here is the big new: yes, the E-Cat X produces directly electric power.

      • kenko1

        Some folks around here claim ‘The battery is dead’. I now claim :’Coal, nat-gas, and nuclear. power plants are dead’. Hu-ray!

        • giovanniontheweb

          more precisely new safe life for the existing nuclear plants

  • georgehants

    Which all brings up again, how many jobs can hopefully be lost without problems and not in this crazy capitalist system having people suffer and struggling to find work that is completely unnecessary and insane.
    Progress is to remove jobs not brainwash the gullible population into pointless work to keep this corrupt and inefficient system afloat.
    People able to have more free-time and work only to improve society generally.
    A health service for all, not just those lucky enough to afford it.
    This would mean a happy new year for everybody, outside of their personal problems,

  • Mats002

    At some point, don’t remember when, AR was talking about 3D printing E-Cats. Maybe he was inspired by this development:

    http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/ra/c5ra22737b

    Al2O3 is used to produce coherent light.

    • Omega Z

      Rossi recently posted that 3D isn’t economical for mass production.
      He did say they would be of benefit for prototypes where you build only a few then make changes. He didn’t say that he was using it.

      3D will have it’s uses. Low volume products, specialty use, prototype etc…
      It will even be of use for very intricate products where maybe because of this intricacy requires multiple components that would be better, stronger & cheaper if made in a single unit. Turbines & Jet engine manufacturers are very interested in this possibility.

      • Warthog

        I think the “printing” Rossi refers to is photolithography, or a similar approach from semiconductor tech.

  • Ophelia Rump

    I wonder what production volume the line is being designed to support?

    Perhaps IH will outsource most of the component production and focus on chip production and assembly. If they wish to scoop the global market they need to move fast and smart. Most of the complex components seem to be third party for the demonstration designs.

    • Owen Geiger

      That’s probably what the factory in China is for — mass producing general parts.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Having a second skin, like in the Dune Sci-Fi series that regulated body temperature sure would remove the need to heat buildings. Perhaps more elegant as comfy underwear.

    It’s like that old joke about “why carpet your house when you can get a scrap of carpet and strap it to your feet”

    • GreenWin

      Bob, thanks for a true L O L! Best of Holidays!

      • Bob Greenyer

        A pleasure – I’m not always serious you know!

  • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

    Low Energy Nanoscale Energy…

    He is not the only one.
    He will have competent competitors at R&D scale.
    where and who?

  • Gerard McEk

    Probably the cat and mouse are integrated circuits, integrated in the ‘wafer’ fuel cake.

    • Mats002

      Yes I think so too, and the Tiger is made by stacking wafers together. They talk to each other in coherence at a certain temp window. Hope we will know more for certain soon.

  • http://bobmapp.com.uk twobob

    E-cat powered robot line?

    • US_Citizen71

      Of course they would dog food new designs for power generation eventually but not likely at first. Not until the product is an electric generating system. But I bet the first lines will be heated by an E-Cat and process heat if needed will come from one as well. If you don’t use your own product why should anyone else?

  • Allan Shura

    Nanors and such configuration.

  • Warthog

    LOL….it is nice to be right. See “LENR on a chip” concept presented here several times.

  • Christina

    When that is true it will in the future be one very Merry Christmas when all the people of the world are comfortably housed, fed, and given enough pure water.

    Thank you very much, Doctor Rossi for working so hard on this gift to God’s children.

    A Holy Christmas and Blessed New Year to all.

    Christina

  • Jonnyb

    I hope the E-cat is soon on the market, then all the speculation will be over.