Polyneutrons (Axil Axil)

The following post has been submitted by Axil Axil


At 6:43 of this video of a Russ Gries experiment with a hydrogen plasma, the experiment shows the emergence of a streak of plasma that when through the glass and into the space just outside the glass. Fisher and Oriani used the polyneutron theory to explain this type of occurrence.

I posted yesterday that all this experimental data which is called by many names might be explained by the same physics process.

One name is the SPP which is a ball of light that can pass through material that is transparent to the EMF that the SPP contains.

Tachyons are another name for very energetic particles that pass through material and leave tracks on photographic emulsions.

Polyneutrons are heavy particles that leave track on CR39 solid plastic radiation detectors and can even produce reactions inside that plastic material as it passes through it.

There is a school of thought in Russia that believes that plasmoids or ball lightning are a cause of the LENR reaction.

Ken Shoulders came up with a term for balls of EMF that he created with electric arc called EV and then later EVO.

Edward Lewis believed that LENR revolved around the plasmoid theory.

Mark LeClair saw these particles come out of his cavitation reactor and punch holes in the walls of his lab and even punched holes in the trees outside his lab. These particles were very heavy and powerful.

I believe, this ball of EMF that has many names is all one and the same thing. It is the ultimate cause of LENR in all its many forms.

Axil Axil

  • Axil Axil

    How can the LENR NAE pass through thing to float in the air?

    There have been reports from R. A. Oriani, J. C. Fisher. Mark LeClair, Proton 21 experiments, and Keith Fredericks among others that have evidence to support the observation of the escape of the NAE from the reactor and the penetration of CR-39 plastic radiation detection strips. These reports include penetration by the NAE through plastic, black paper, glass, and PVC pipe. Like a bubble, the NAE can float freely in the air and can move a long way if driven by air currents.

    Like any alpha emitter, the mobile NAE may be injurious to health if it can enter the body and catalyzes nuclear reactions that generate alpha particles, The NAE is a ball of intense light of unparallel strength. This form of light will pass through material that will usually be somewhat transparent to light in the XUV frequency range. This includes paper, plastic, plexiglass, glass, PVC piping, and hot alumina tubes. The LENR NAE may be dangerous if it exits the glass electrolytic cell even if the cell is closed, the PVC based cavitation reactor or the hot alumina nickel reactor.

    Ash and transmutation products from LENR reactions might catalyzed nuclear reactions outside of the reactor if exposed to the open air.

    Water, or metal containment may be required to keep the NAE confined and away from the possibility of inhalation until the NAE has had enough time to decompose.

    • Dave Lawton

      Because the electric field of the plasma ball or thunder ball disassembles it self and
      reassembles itself the other side of the barrier, so it appears to move through a barrier.

  • Axil Axil


    Energetic particle shower in the vapor from electrolysis

    R. A. Oriani

    University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN 55419

    J. C. Fisher†

    600 Arbol Verde, Carpinteria, CA 93013

    (Dated: December 19, 2004)

    This article informs us about the nature of the NAE. The experiment related in this article uses CR-39 particle detectors to show the production of energetic particles in the mobile NAE afloat in the vapor above an electrolytic LENR cell. This NAE has becomes mobile after it has become detached from its point of creation somewhere on the lattice of the electrodes within the cell as it moves upward in the vapor produced by the action of electrolysis and the heat that this electrode produces. This NAE produces hundreds of thousands of charged particles as it floats upward out of the cell. This reaction most probably produces alpha particles as the NAE rises on the vapor currents upward out of the cell. The analysis in the article finds that this NAE is a point source of these alpha particles by correlating the angles of the pits produced by the charged particles as the NAE rises. This behavior implies that the NAE supports a continuous and long lasting LENR process that precedes over a considerable duration of time. This mobile type of NAE must decouple from its point of creation on the lattice of the electrode and floats on air currents like a particle of dust. The mesoscopic NAE must be massive in size to be so driven by molecules of air and water vapor.

  • Mats002


  • Axil Axil

    Mark LeClair states on his fusion website refering to the particles that he produces in cavitation.


    “The amount of material removed in the longest, semi-hexagonal trenches observed (up to 2 meters in length, 20-200 microns in width) also greatly exceeds the amount of material removed in a normal impact of the jet into a surface that forms a pit, by a factor of 5000X, based on highly accurate ASTM-G32 cavitation erosion resistance data that also forms a baseline for conservation of microjet initial kinetic energy. A proper scientific name for the trench formation phenomena by the crystal would be the LeClair Effect.”

  • Dave Lawton

    I would like to see a layout of the Fisher experiment as you would need to include
    anti-coincident detectors to exclude cosmic ray showers before I would say interesting.

    • Axil Axil



      I have not read these papers yet.

    • Axil Axil

      If these particles can be pushed around with airflow from a fan, they would not be muons produced from cosmic ray collisions with the atmosphere.

  • Axil Axil

    Very Interesting article in Infinite magazine on CF pioneer Richard Oriani, who died in august.


    “Fisher suggested to Oriani that he place the CR-39 detectors outside of the electrolyte. He says, “Oriani did that and he found evidence of particles that he could record outside the apparatus. He put two plastic detectors in the gas that was coming off the electrolysis…Lo and behold, he got a shower of tracks on those. Thousands of tracks, more than he cared to count.”



    External Radiation Produced by Electrolysis — A Work in Progress

    These particles are strange. What could these particles be? They don’t obey the inverse square law that defines a spherical radiation pattern because the detectors just outside the glass don’t show any particle activity at all. Subatomic particles like neutrons are not effected by air flow, they are just to small to hit air molecules. Air has its own neutron moderation profile and these particle don’t look like they are being moderated.

    In fact, airflow affects the movements of these particles by a factor of 7. They are like soap bubbles.

    quote from the fisher document: “The results of this experiment are plotted in Fig. 4. When the fan is on the flux of particles in excess of preexisting background increases by a factor of about 7 compared with when the fan is off”.

    These particles are massive enough to be on the same mass level as air molecules.

    Components in Dry Air

    The two most dominant components in dry air are Oxygen and Nitrogen. Oxygen has a 16 atomic unit mass and Nitrogen has a 14 atomic units mass. Since both of these elements are diatomic in air – O2 and N2, the molecular mass of Oxygen is 32 and the molecular mass of Nitrogen is 28.

    Total Molecular Mass of Air is 28.97. This is about 28 GeV.

    From the article as follows:

    “Fisher says that Oriani used the polyneutron theory on two major experimental efforts. The second collaboration is now a paper in progress on creating the same reaction in a solid, using a stack of two CR-39 detector chips. Fisher notes that they found “tremendous numbers of etch pits, thousands of etch pits.” Sometimes they were “not uniformly scattered across the surfaces; sometimes there would be a patch on an outside surface for which there was not a patch for the inside surface. Once there was a big patch on one inside surface that was matched by another patch on the facing inside surface on the other detector chip.” After matching up all of the pits and showers, Fisher says “it became clear that the reactions had started in various places in the interior of the sandwich of plastics and in at least one place the reaction had spread from one detector into the other.” He calls this “an incredible and terrific experiment” and hopes to finish the paper soon.”

    These particles are producing LENR reactions inside the CR-39 plastic radiation detector strips.

    IMHO, these strange particles are tachyons with a mass of about 1,000,000 GeV.

    These particle that Fisher and Oriani called polyneutrons produce the LENR reaction: They cause LENR in all LENR systems. I have explained how these polyneutrons form under the name of SPPs.. They are relatively new to science which calls them “dark mode” Surface Plasmon Polaritons(SPP)

    • Zephir

      /* These particles are massive enough to be on the same mass level as air molecules…. IMHO, these strange particles are tachyons with a mass of about 1,000,000 GeV. */

      Such a type of posts makes the E-CatWorld site physically ignorant.

      • Axil Axil

        With Reference to this article


        Also see the presentation at ICCF-18


        If it can be said at ICCF-18, it should be allowed here at ECW,

        • Zephir

          Which of your sources mentioned “tachyons with a mass of about 1,000,000 GeV”?

          • Axil Axil

            Search text: Recami-Mignani tachyon monopoles

            Using eq. (15) for Recami-Mignani tachyon monopoles
            gives |m0| = 7.29 × 10^^6GeV /c2 and β0= 1.83 × 10^^7.
            This mass estimate should be taken as a lower limit of
            particle mass as (we assume) less than the actual particle
            kinetic energy is deposited in the track.