E-Cat X Still ‘Very Promising’, New Materials Still Resisting

Andrea Rossi has not given us many details about the E-Cat X at the moment but a couple of clues have been been given recently which might make the picture a little clearer.

First, in an update about the status of the testing that is currently underway last week, Rossi wrote regarding the E-Cat X:

Promising. Could make a revolution, even if totally covered by the US Patent we got, which makes all simpler; I designed it to fit perfectly in the US Patent).

Second, in an update today he wrote:

Andrea Rossi
November 5th, 2015 at 9:52 AM
Frank Acland:
09.55 a.m. of November 05
The 1 MW E-Cat has a problem that we are repairing. The E-Cat X is operating well, still very promising. The new materials resist.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

I believe that the new materials referred to here are those he has said are being made in a new lab that Leonardo Corp. has set up in Miami, and the fact that he says they ‘resist’, implied that they are being used in resistors that are needed for he E-Cat X.

Rossi says that the E-Cat X fits perfectly within the scope of the patent he was recently awarded, and in one of the claims in the patent it states that the “fuel wafer comprises a multi-layer structure having a layer of said fuel mixture in thermal communication with a layer containing said electrical resistor.” He has also said that the E-Cat X operates at higher temperatures than the old Hot Cat and is likely the reason why they need new materials for the resistors.

I believe that the current E-Cat X test has been going for at least three weeks now, and if the resistors still resist (previous E-Cat X prototypes have burnt out), it’s a good sign.

Still, we don’t know too much about the E-Cat X, except it is supposed to be revolutionary, and could be useful for large plants and domestic ones, and that it can do something more than just producing heat.

  • Zack Iszard

    If all rigid materials inside a such a high temperature reactor were matched to very similar thermal expansion curves, then the reactor would be MUCH more durable. The closer the better. Perhaps this “new material” AR speaks of is a good high-temperature thermoelectric that has similar thermal expansion to the reactor casing (presumably alumina?) and a good bond to the electrode conductor.

    If developed, I think this thermoelectric application could be a very big motivator to material scientists to improve the required materials for energy conversion.

  • Nicholas Chandler-Yates

    i asked rossi about this ages ago, he said that the efficiency of thermoelectric were too low. he was promising about striking however.

  • Gerard McEk

    It is getting unstable now:
    Maryana:

    Nov 6, 11.55 a.m.

    E-Cat 1 MW some problems

    E-Cat X: working with instability

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

    Andrea will be quite busy now.

  • ss dd

    The materials are obviously on strike from being forced to work 24/7.

  • Omega Z

    Yes & if it gives you an answer you don’t like,(As in I know my bank balance is more then that) a lot cheaper to replace after it shatters against the wall.

  • Omega Z

    The new Materials resist breakage(materials expand) at high temps.

  • http://magicmusicandmore.com/ Barry

    Guess we have to start excepting the future is here, afterall Flash Gordan has arrived. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPvKl6ezyc

  • Mike Henderson

    A mark of intelligence is the capacity to communicate. Clearly, intelligibly, without leaving gaping holes for the listener / reader to fill in the gap.

    • Owen Geiger

      If you’re referring to Rossi, please realize he is under no obligation to disclose the details of his world changing inventions. I’m very thankful that he takes the time to share a few details here and there.

    • hempenearth

      And the more languages you can communicate in, the more intelligent you are?

    • ss dd

      If you’ve followed the E-Cat X story, it is obvious what Rossi is talking about when saying “resist”. Not his fault if people interpret what he says.

  • Miles

    I wonder what the anticipated refreshed COP is for all the recent developments and improvements that have taken place?

  • http://magicmusicandmore.com/ Barry

    Perhaps energy in the near future will become quite inexpensive the same way math calculators became cheaper and cheaper. My teacher in high school bought a bulky hand held one that cost over a hundred dollars. Now you can get one for three bucks.

  • Nigel Appleton

    Boron carbide reactor for the win!

  • mecatfish

    I wonder if Rossi is not allowed to contribute to this website. Has anyone invited him to join some of our conversations here?

  • Gerard McEk

    The things that are promissing on the Ecat X are:
    – COP (long Self Sustained Mode periods)
    – High temperatures > melting temp Nickel (1455 degrees C)
    – Direct generation of electricity
    I believe these have been briefly mentioned by Andrea Rossi (but perhaps not fully admitted).

    • GreenWin

      IF the reaction consists of a plasma that can be rotated – MHD plates could produce an electric current. Some theories indicate Ni-H (or Storms’ NAE in a similar lattice) produces a high T magnetic field – suggesting plasma is a component of LENR.

    • LindbergofSwed

      it would be interesting to know for sure if it produce electricity directly.

      does something have to move/rotate to produce electricity?

      • Gerard McEk

        No, it would be direct in some way. Others LENR scientists have also reported similar effects. I am not sure if it is due to electrostatic, magnetic ot electromagnetic field changes that can be converted to voltages/currents.

      • Jim Anderson

        For electrical induction yes you need a moving or varying magnetic field to induce electricity. I suppose you could move whatever the electricity is being induced in in relation to the magnetic field of the X-CAT. Or you could control the X-CAT’s magnetic field to change the magnetism that is produced. For production of electricity by a thermocouple device you don’t need a varying magnetic field just heat.

  • Job001

    “The new materials resist.” i.e. corrosion failure at the higher temperatures required, failures throughout LENR testing research have often been reported because hydrogen causes hydrogen embrittlement failures. The required materials science will be a big success factor.

    • Gerard McEk

      I believe that hydrogen embrittlement also causes LENR or the other way around. I think that effect is needed for LENR. It is important to have a surface structure of Nickel that enhances the hydrogen embrittlement. Clearly embrittlement is not wanted for the heating coil, which should therefore not be in the hydrogen atmosphere.

    • Steve Savage

      Great Observation … Any ideas out there as to what those needed materials may be?

  • Gerald

    To me as a non native Englisch reader. I would say that the materials still resist means the materials don’t give up and resist in failing. So it’s very good. But it could be the other wat around.

    • Agaricus

      That is probably the most likely interpretation. We don’t know exactly what the materials are required to resist, but heat (high MP or resistance to either thermal shock or heat distortion), corrosion or hydrogen embrittlement/permeability are all possible candidates.