E-Cat X Reactor Down Again, Rossi Still Very Optimistic

Andrea Rossi has reported on the Journal of Nuclear Physics that the E-Cat X Reactor prototype he has been testing recently has broken again. This is the second time this new version of the Hot Cat has broken; the first time a component burnt out, and Rossi’s team had to make some kind of new material to fix it.

This time something similar seems to have happened. Rossi explains the problem:

Andrea Rossi
September 25th, 2015 at 8:17 AM
Shandra Mcvea:
The 1 MW E-Cat has problems with a leak that we are repairing.
The E-Cat X is fused because we reached a too high temperature and critical components are fused. We have to invent a new material for it and I am studying a new alloy that could have the necessary characteristics. I think we will have the new one in operation within a month. The materials existing in the market are not good, for one reason or another. We have to make a material that does not exist, but we know enough to make it.
Today is a hard day.
Warm Regards,

Andrea Rossi
September 25th, 2015 at 7:49 PM
Jane Carver:
Too high temperature in a zone of the E-Cat X where materials are not the right ones. Today we bought what necessary to make a new material and I think in several weeks the E-Cat X will be again working.
Warm Regards,

It does not sound like Rossi is giving up on this reactor at all. He stated also: “Failures are are the food of successful outputs. I am extremely optimist about the E-Cat X.”

It’s interesting that Rossi says it will take several weeks for the E-Cat X to be working again — possibly there is some major work needed to create the new material, and then redesign the reactor to the point where it will be able to handle the high temperatures that this reactor is apparently operating at for long periods of time.

  • Warthog

    Well, I was coming at it from the end-users perspective….for them, a “failure” is “ceasing to perform the desired function”.

    From the engineers perspective, a “failure” is an opportunity to learn things to improve performance.. as you put it quite well “expand(ing) your palette of response”.

    I’ve been in both sets of shoes, but prefer the second.

  • Nigel Appleton

    It seems to me that the higher the temperature that must be sustained above 1200 deg C or thereabouts, the more likely it is that

    a) expensive, exotic materials are needed e.g. hafnium titanium alloys; and/or
    b) some form of protection from oxidation of heater and reactor materials will be essential.

  • Nixter

    I wonder what the X stands for in Dr. Rossi’s new design? Could it be the unknown factor, or perhaps x-rays are integral to its operation.

    • ecatworld

      AR has said that when the E-Cat X goes into production, the X will be replaced by a number.

    • ss dd

      I think there’s nothing to it. Initially Rossi named it Mme Curie and people started making similar hypotheses until he renamed it E-Cat X.

  • Axil Axil

    I have posted that zirconia resists oxidation at high temperatures. Rossi should use zirconia for his reactor shell.

    • Warthog

      George Miley does. Not for the reactor walls, but as the support for the Pd, Ni, or Ni/Pd active material.

      Zirconia would indeed make a good wall material. Another odd possibility is thoria (thorium oxide), which I think has the highest operating temperature of any oxide material. At the company where I worked, thoria bricks were used as the liner for a coal gasification reactor…..a truly chemically hostile environment.

  • Warthog

    Having a reactor fail because it is putting out “too much” heat is NOT a problem that the field of LENR has had in the past (other than sporadically….i.e. the P&F “cube” that melted its way through the reactor walls, the lab benchtop, and some unspecified distance into a concrete floor). All such failures are GOOD news….not bad.

  • Jimr

    I’m wondering if Rossi is approaching the point where Brillioin is today. They stated that they need to develope new materials for their product.

  • Ophelia Rump

    I wonder what temperatures it can reach? Can you just imagine smelters powered by LENR?
    Low cost production of metals would be an interesting result.

    • Jarea

      Ophelia where has you been? You have not commented before. 😉

    • f sedei

      No one really knows what temperature can be reached by LENR and by not splitting the atom. Truly an amazing phenomenon which requires much more study and research.

      • Axil Axil

        The nano particles must be in a solid form, so the highest temperature would be the sublimation point of carbon the highest melting temperature of any element: 6000C or there about.

        • f sedei

          It is not beyond reason that the highest known temperature is above the melting point of any element. But, how do we measure except by mathematical speculation?

    • Axil Axil

      no higher than the melting point of platinum, 1750C or there about.

    • Fyodor

      Keep in mind that temperatures which can melt metals will be melting the E-cat.

      • Jarea

        But you can accumulate energy outside ecat with heat exchangers or electricity conversion