Russian Scientists Propose Full-Scale LENR Research Program

Thanks to Peter Gluck for sharing the following announcement from the Russian site Cold Nuclear Fusion and CMM made by a group of Russian scientists.

Dear colleagues!

A group of enthusiasts initiated the process of developing a full-scale research program LENRR in Russia. Those wishing to join this process may send their proposals in the format of the proposed template below to the address: [email protected]
The template 4 categories:
– the Matrix
– References
– Table of developers
– Annex 1: Summary of R & D
can expand the matrix or offer R & D within the existing order in the matrix
do not forget to fill the developers table.
Your articles with links or pdf-copies are welcome

Here’s a quote from the template:

Type: near-5 years
It covers organizations throughout the territory of the Russian Federation

Objective: To expand in Russia at the state level, full-scale basic research of a new physical phenomenon: nuclear processes in condensed media or low energy nuclear reactions (LENR)

Objectives: to coordinate research in the different organizations to repeat successful experiments with LENR, to develop experimental and theoretical base w prepare school professionals on LENR develop prototype models s future installations, start the initial training of specialists: bachelors, masters and PhD students to develop a medium-term (15 years) and dalnesrochnuyu (30 years) of the program of basic research and development construct Orsk engineering design, to organize an annual conference for the exchange of knowledge in the field LENR, LENR accelerate the introduction of technologies into commercial practice.

Here’s more evidence that there is more interest in the scientific community in Russia, than in most other parts of the world. There have been regular scientific seminars there on LENR, and some interesting papers and reports published by LENR researchers there.

The apparent leader of this movement is Alexander Prosvirnov who works at VNIIAES, the Russian nuclear power research institute.

  • we want LENR Fusione Fredda
  • Obvious

    Although I understand your point, I disagree that value ascribed to the giver is should be connected to the receiver. They are independent. The great sacrifice by someone who really had to work had for a donation they made does not increase the value to the receiver of the gift if they are anonymous. That does not mean that this value does not exist. But you can’t buy your way to salvation, whether you are rich or poor. When there is a direct transfer from person to person, perhaps then this extra value can be realized.

  • attaboy

    If you think Russia is the one to worry about, consider that China controls the world supply of rare earth elements. These further control much of what goes on in the world today. Seems to me that in a showdown with China our lack of the rare earths could be a big difference maker.

  • Omega Z

    Bush & Obama breaking protocol means they allowed shipments of food to be labeled with point of origin when helping out after a disaster such as a tsunami. For 30 years this was not allowed.

    In the past, a 1000 pallets of rice & flour dropped in to help would have point of origin labels from those who donated. Unless it came from the U.S. in which case it was left unlabeled. Obviously, those in dire circumstances wonder why the wealthiest nation contributed nothing. Not realizing 25% to 50% of the aid came from the U.S.. People have a right to know. It impacts how they think of you. People judge others on the good & bad they do & look at the balance. Seeing only 1 side is not right.

  • Omega Z

    Note that LENR research has been suppressed world wide. Big Physics is international. It’s an expensive field of research & usually requires collaboration of nations for funding. Thus Big Physics collaborate to prevent research that would take away from the international kitty. As the U.S. is 1 of the bigger donors, suppression would be more visible. But suppression is a collaborative international effort.

    This hasn’t stopped private research by entities like Mitsubishi among others or the Scientists doing unofficial research on the side at institutions such as Los Alamos, NRL, NASA, Etc..

    Note, I said the rank & file of the fossil fuel crowd are probably unaware. CEO’s, Management, Bankers & such are a different subject.
    First, Rossi’s pilot plant aside, There is no product on the market. Even if that comes to pass, it takes time to gear up production of any real consequence. Even longer to transition the world(Decades).

    With or without LENR, Fossil days are limited. Likely these resources will already be on the precipice of decline as LENR spreads. I see the advent of LENR as just in time. Being a stabilizing force over what otherwise would be a rocky road.

    I once had some small interest in Oil. Due to that, I take notice of certain things. They plan far in the Future. They have No plans for projects that exceed beyond 40 years life expectancies(You wont see new from the ground up refineries built). They simply see no future beyond that for Oil. This was determined before LENR awareness.

    We wont run out of Oil, Gas, or Coal. We’ll run out of affordable Oil, Gas, & Coal when supply begins to decline and can never meet increasing demand & skyrocketing price forces business to look else where for energy out of necessity.

    • attaboy

      It would seem you’ve covered the situation quite well. In 1989 I was in a
      small company among a small staff of chemists. I immediately became a
      fan of cold fusion for which these colleagues were indifferent. So with
      no one to really share my interest, my gut (I didn’t have the
      intellectual moxie to apply more than that.) told me it was real right
      through the period of suppression by Big Physics and others. I was
      saddened by all this but not surprised because two important discoveries
      I had made in an earlier position at Honeywell had been suppressed in a
      way that had similarities to the P and F suppression. It even got worse
      for me at Honeywell, just as things got worse for P and F. They
      engineered my release from the company and for P and F, their
      reputations were damaged irreparably.

  • Daniel Maris

    Well you may have a point. Though I think Lysenko assumed direct environmental effects rather than via an epigenetic process.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Yeah, it seems pretty obvious, even to a moron like me, that if enriched uranium [which can also adsorb (not a typo, ad = on to) deuterium] were used instead of palladium, dangerous neutron chain reactions could take place.
    For example:
    U(235) + d > U(236) + p 4.3 MeV (an Oppenheimer-Phillips reaction)
    That would lead to the following chain reaction:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_chain_reaction

  • Omega Z

    A similar view could be taken of the U.S. as/is now is looking for the ways to show this technology to the world? The U.S. started studying the anomalous heat phenomenon in the mid to late 50’s with the 1st I’m aware of research papers published about LENR in 1962.

  • Omega Z

    I agree with your post except for the “Consumer Protection Agency or Consumer Reports” Tho originally created with good intent, I have no faith in them anymore. Overtime, they have become part of the problem…

  • Omega Z

    This is more myth then fact.

  • Omega Z

    I got your point.
    I was pointing out that the Amish are not locked in time, but merely slower to change. A persons perceptions usually aren’t reality. Their lifestyle also only works because they are few. 7+ billion Amish burning firewood for cooking & heating would be a disaster. Trees would become extinct.

    Diogenes post below is based on perceptions. They like money as much as the next person. Their milk is sold as class(B) suitable for cheese is money related(Greed seeps in). That’s another story. They are more self-reliant, but less so then many think. They buy groceries & goods just as we do(Their cart will look no different then yours except in volume). They don’t sew all their own cloths nor raise all their own food.

    They mislead the public & take advantage of peoples perceptions either directly or by collusion with others. That Amish hand made furniture your proud of probably came as a kit from China & they merely assembled it. Remember that when you see that TV ad electric fireplace with the Amish built mantels. (Word play, Built-Assembled)

    Many are hard working, But they too have those among them that work hard all day avoiding doing any work. Just like the rest of the world. I know some of them. I’ve done work for some of them. Believe me. I don’t need National Geographic myths. They are little different then the rest of us.

    You probably wont read this in National Geographic. A few years back, they were offering $25K-$50K to recruit young men to the flock. They have a blood line issue.

  • attaboy

    If we’re going make that up we’re going to have to move a lot faster than we have.

  • georgehants

    Thanks Roger, I assure you it is the same in the UK. are we agreeing that America exists as a Fact in this reality, if not why are we taking about it.

    • Omega Z

      George, I doubt Paradigm’s acknowledge borders.

    • Mats002

      I say 0.99, I have been in America many times, last time a few weeks ago, 4th might be overrated but because of wine I give it 1.05 chance of existance 🙂

  • georgehants

    Roger, you seem to be talking about Stalin as if his existence was a Fact, strange because you have been arguing with me below for days that there is no such thing.
    Please also clarify for me is Epigenetics a True line of Research or does it not exist.
    Please clarify your position for me.

  • Alan DeAngelis
    • Alan DeAngelis

      PS
      “red mercury” is at 29:30 min.

  • Private Citizen

    Article didn’t mention who’s funding this research and education

    • georgehants

      Good point if it turns out to be the establishment then, well done Russia.
      If private then Mr.Gates etc. needs to get his skates on.

      • Omega Z

        Bill Gates recently contributed 2 Billion$ of his own money to new exotic energy research of the LENR variety. He does not believe wind & solar are the answer to the energy problem. Note his contribution came after his visit to Italy.

        • georgehants

          Omega, understood, but do we know that any of it is going specifically to Cold Fusion Research, if not publicly announced that it is then it is just another hidden situation.
          We do not yet know if the Russian funding is private or establishment.
          Hope we find out soon.

          • Omega Z

            No George. There were no specifics. Just that this came about after his Italian visit with the ENEA where LENR was discussed. It was also after he provide funding to more traditional Nuclear energy research earlier on. It did specify that this came from him personally. Not his Charity Foundation.
            I would be surprised if others don’t or haven’t already contributed such funding. However, I doubt we will hear about it. Hopefully, he spread it around & not all to the ENEA.

        • Gerrit

          do you have a source for that ?

          • Omega Z

            Goggle
            “Bill Gates invest 2 billion dollars in energy”

            • Gerrit

              where does it say “of the LENR variety” ?
              All I know is that Gates invests in his terrapower company. That not LENR at all.

              • Omega Z

                As I pointed out to georgehants below, We don’t have specifics, but this did come not long after his visit with the ENEA where LENR was discussed, Thus I would be surprised if some didn’t make it there. However I doubt all of it did. He is promoting a diversified approach. This 2 Billion also was his personal money, not the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation.

                Read some of his interviews. You’ll find he doesn’t believe wind/solar are economically viable nor reliable. He is looking for a new answer to energy that is reliable & cheap. That narrows it down to very few possibilities. He’s also looking for something that can be transitioned to a large degree within 30 years. If he believes the information he’s been presented on LENR has any possibilities, He would be providing funding for it. There are several options. Rossi is only one of them. However, Don’t expect him to announce who he’s funding at this time.

  • Axil Axil

    The Russians list a wide range of technologies to explore the LENR reaction, but don’t inc;ude the most important: Rydberg matter and nano particles.

    As far as I am concerned, the experiments recently done using Rydberg matter proves the Surface Plasmon Polariton (SPP) theory of LENR by showing the massive production of subatomic particles including mesons, muons, pions, and electrons. This leads to the conclusion that muon fusion plays a major role in the LENR reaction picture as predicted by yours truly.

  • Job001

    Politics slid further into “funding biased” insanity and inability to do real science with the supreme court favoring funding corruption as a first principle of candidate selection.
    Could anything be more corrupt than bribery millions/billions before election? Direct hand to hand gold coin is also corrupt.
    Corruption favors existing monopoly while stalling science and economic progress.

  • georgehants

    Wonderful to see our Russian friends being so open about such an important subject as Cold Fusion.
    What a shame that in much of the censored West these things are hidden from the electorate.
    Do many Western scientist move to work in the free science of Russia I wonder.

    • bachcole

      It says something important about America’s love affair with “freedom”. It is not very free to castigate, defund, and ostracise people if they disagree with the dominant paradigm.

      • georgehants

        Forgive me Roger, are you talking about the scientists like P&F etc. who are persecuted in America if they disagree with the authorities regarding Cold Fusion etc.

  • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

    you don’t talk of capitalism but of finance and currency.

    to understand capitalism, get into an indonesian village and see how the moped of a family is exploited, used for taxi, rented to taxi when not used, … same for the cars, bought by retired people, or by local travel operator, rented or used… same for rooms…

    De soto is furious about that piketti vision on capitalism which gives values to what you correctly describe as virtual value.
    on the opposite the real value of most of humanity assets is not valuated , not registered, not protected as it should.

    to see the absurdity notice that the most poor people in term of valuated assets are US citizen.
    poor don’t have debt… negative equity people have negative market value.

  • Obvious

    I consider your blanket comments on large companies about the same way that I consider blanket comments on scientists from someone else. Large does not imply impersonal. Large usually means lot of people like it. That goes for government too: even if people complain about it, they generally perpetuate it or do nothing about it.

    • bachcole

      I consider my blanket comment about large companies to be simply a statement of fact. I can email the company Annie’s about a suggestion; the next day I would get an email back saying “hey, what a good idea!” or “sorry, can’t use that idea”. If I emailed a large corporation, if my email wasn’t immediately deleted, it would be sent here and there until someone deleted it or replied to me to say “sorry, we can’t do that.”

  • Omega Z

    Actually Roger, The vast majority of Companies sell stock to obtain cash flow & for expansion of the business. Without which most wouldn’t exist long term.

    It would be nice if someone arranged things in a manner where everyone became stock holders. Possibly a mandatory 3% before tax contribution. Not in a single Corporation but a stock that held a pool of many thus eliminating the risk of 1 going broke. Weekly or monthly Payouts would begin at 60 & when your gone a portion of it is passed to the kids & the rest goes back into the pool to be earned by the next generation.

  • Bob Greenyer

    25 years ago, I went on a 2 week course on a British Army base in Germany to learn how to diffuse Russian mines. I was amazed at how, in Russia, they would train a few guys from a village how to make anti-tank mines out of wood and other basic components and then tell them to go back to their village and have the community make 10,000s for free as part of their contribution to the nations defense. They design for distribution.

    I visited the NEC 22 years ago for a switchgear show as part of my role as an Electrical Engineer at SmithKline Beechams largest factory in the UK, Worthing, my home town and where Fleischmann came to live with his family having fled fascism in boarder lands between Czech republic and Germany (if you have had Augmentin – it was made here).

    I got round the show in a few hours, so, I checked out the show next door – it was a Russian Avionics and Aerospace show – many hundreds of newly non-funded Russian companies looking for investment and collaboration with the west. I was stunned – what was on display was nothing less than extraordinary. They had incredible aircraft and developments many of which I had no idea existed – and none of it built with computers, it was built with thinkers, ingenuity and fast practical trial and error.

    20 years ago, I found myself performing parts of Les Miserables on the rotating stage at Oxford Circus in London with a Russian performer. She told of her days at school back in Russia, where, during the cold war, every citizen was issued with an NBC suit, and several times a year, they took 2 whole weeks out to practice drills on how to survive a holocaust – I recollected the “take a door off and get behind it” adverts we had been shown in public broadcasting in the UK, what a joke.

    More recently, I was taken aback in Moscow with how serious scientists, students and industrialists were paying close attention and asking thoughtful questions of presenters, myself included, at the Friendship University in Moscow.

    I have no doubt that if it is at all possible, this Russian initiative will make strides and quickly – fundamentally they think differently when it comes to getting the job done, they focus on blocking in the major aspects fast and finessing later, I have seen other approaches where so much time is spent on seeking perfection in the research platform that barely any research is undertaken.

    I wish them luck, we need answers and solutions fast.

    • Omega Z

      Unfortunately, unless you were a few hundred feet below ground with 100 years of provisions, there would be no surviving a holocaust for long.
      The decades of radiation & at least 1 decade of a full global Ice age would assure that. The U.S. & Russia having completely eliminated 80% of their arsenals still retain enough to create the above scenario about 20 times.

      Actually 5 times. as most of the still existing arsenal is dismantled & would need reassembling. Probably no survivors to do that.
      ——————————————————————
      As to Research Platform’s. Very True. $200K dollars for the platform leaving $200 to do the actual experiment.

      3 Million$ to search for a shipwreck. After 11 months, they have only $50K to rent a research ship to actually go look for it with a 3 day window. I hope they enjoyed that 11 month 2.9 million$ vacation before hand. Oh, And on day 2 it started storming & they had to go home. 🙂

      If one really wants to be impressed, look at what the ancient’s built. No computers or high tech equipment & we have trouble replicating with super precision machines if we can replicate it at all. I bet there wasn’t a single PhD among the ancient’s…

      • Mytakeis

        The ‘ancients’ used disciplines we should re-discover, soon I hope. LENR sort of scratches the surface of this realm.

        • Omega Z

          I agree.
          Some of their accomplishments fascinate me while confuses me at the same time. I think our history is very skewed with misinformation. However, it is very hard to try & correct it. Try telling an Egyptian that civilization appears to predate them for example.

    • Axil Axil

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval

      The VA-111Shkval (fromRussian: шквал— squall)

      The favorite method used to undercut the work of Joe Papp is making a joke about his work on his 300 MPH submarine. Such a system was not hew back in the 1960s. Russa began work on this device in the 1960s. Joe Papp or his father could have worked on that system before he came to the US.

    • Daniel Maris

      This is the land of Lysenko, don’t forget. All that energy and effort can be used for good and bad ends.

      • Daniel Maris

        It is also the land of Potemkin villages. 🙂 Look it up on Google if you haven’t heard the term before.

    • Ted-X

      Russians practice the TRIZ method for making inventions (in the West TRIZ is used mostly by the defense contractors; in Korea, Samsung achieved a large commercial success using TRIZ). In the “secret technologies” they are at the same level as the USA (this is my speculation). From time to time each superpower makes a small scale test to find out if the other side has similar technologies. They never comment about these tests. If the “secret technologies” would be released, we would be living in a much better world (assuming that the “unpredictable countries” would not get these technologies). The game is to keep the “unpredictables”, in the dark and the cost is “a technologically stalled civilization” (it is just my speculation, a sot of a “bird’s view” on the subject of restricting technological progress).

  • Omega Z

    There has been push back among certain segments of the Scientific community that has held LENR back. This small group has little to do with national borders. They are international in nature(Think ITER & Big Physics).

    When the awareness of something with the implications of LENR becomes spread far & wide, National Entities have no choice but to pay attention. Even if they are not certain of it’s reality.

    Much of the credit for this awareness has to be credited to Andrea Rossi. Before Rossi, LENR was nearly unheard of. In Fact, Many people know nothing of Pons & Fleischmann. Thankfully Rossi likes to talk & his followers spread the word. When NASA talks of LENR Rossi is always mentioned. Parkhomov & Others are trying to replicate “Rossi’s” Lugano test. Likely none of this would have come about had Rossi stayed in the dark.

    To Many People give Way to much “Credence” to the wrong players.
    The Fossil energy Corporations aren’t holding LENR back. Likely few if any of their rank & file have even heard of LENR, Rossi, or any of the others.

    The Facts say that LENR will provide Fossil energy companies an extension of longevity albeit likely smaller in scale. Big Oil was/is probably dead in 50 years(Economically nonviable). LENR will extend that to 100 years. Natural Gas even longer. Even Coal has other uses then just being burnt for electricity.

    I don’t recall ever seeing Coal companies fighting against Natural Gas companies. It’s just business competition & if you can’t compete, you fade away. It is what it is.

    Today you see in the news Coal companies fighting against what they see as Political interference of the market. Not a competitor out competing them. When LENR comes to market, The coal investors will merely move to new investments. There will be Charities asking the government for funding to retrain people & such. And, A few Small coal companies will carry on. There will still be a market for some coal.

  • Roland

    Kellogg’s Corn Flakes were originally intended, by the Puritanical Kellogg, to induce sexual abstinence not heath; in fact they do neither.

    Compromising the heath of children with their other sugar and chemical laden confections, masquerading as breakfast, for profit is, as you point out, a corporate moral low point and Kellogg would be aghast.

  • Daniel Maris

    Russia is a political dictatorship. No one can speak freely there, so whatever goes on there always has a question mark over it. I’d be much happier if it was American scientists calling for a programme of research.

    • Omega Z

      Officially there is-Texas Tech & University of Missouri and much more is going on in silence.

      • Daniel Maris

        Silence. Not my favourite word. Science should be open and loud.

        • Omega Z

          Silence, Daniel
          That’s the way Science usually works. Only entrepreneur’s tend to speak out. If it weren’t for lay people writing up articles, you would seldom ever here anything out of Science. Most don’t realize that if Rossi shared his knowledge with the Science community, Science would be the net result.

          DARPA instituted a new repository for massive sharing of research data amongst the Science community. Lots of Data comes in. Very Little goes out. Fail. They are now trying to develop an algorithm to sift through all the data & direct it to interested parties. I can predict the outcome now. Fail.
          You can lead a horse to water. You can’t make him drink.

          People & small teams want credit for what they discover. Using others work means sharing credit. The fact that another may have the missing piece of their puzzle does not matter. Ego. The other currency.

  • Obvious

    But also donates 10’s of millions of dollars to charities for children and feeding the poor. Probably more per year than all the do-good hippies in North America.

    • GreenWin

      “Total Charitable Giving [USA alone] in 2014 was a record $456.73 Billion – up 9.3% over 2013. Individual donors account for 74% of all U.S. giving. This extraordinary sum was fueled by favorable economic factors that drive giving, an increasing number of nonprofits, the impact of donor advised funds and new and more effective fundraising technologies and techniques.” http://www.atlasofgiving.com/atlas/9564728G/9564728G_12_14.pdf

      While most of the 74% may not qualify as “hippies,” they do qualify as “do-gooders.”

      According to Kellogg’s 2013 official online acounting, charitable giving in 2013 reached a grand total of $60M. A rather Obvious disparity.

      • Omega Z

        Actually, The U.S. is & has been the most giving in the world for a very long time. Officially, the U.S. is not supposed to toot it’s own horn. International entities feels it gives the U.S. an unfair advantage in world opinion.

        A deal was struck in the 70’s by Jimmy Carter. When responding to a disaster, Made in the USA or Grown in the USA couldn’t appear on products or bags of grain. Many in the time of disasters took note that everyone seemed to be helping except the U.S.. Bush Junior was the 1st to break that protocol. I think Obama has continued to break protocol. If I recall, The Japanese were very aware of all the goods coming ashore with the U.S. labels stamped on them after Fukushima. I fully agree with this. Others should see both sides of the coin. Good, Bad or ugly…

      • Obvious

        $60 million in donations. Very impersonal and mean-hearted those Kellogg’s folks…

        I am very impressed at the level of individual donations, however. More than an average of $1000 per person in the US is quite amazing.

        Since Kellogg’s employs about 30,700 people worldwide, then the company donates about twice as much as their employees do, if the employees donate the average amount that the rest of Americans do.
        I will leave the hippies out of this from now on.

        • bachcole

          You can’t quantify true charity. If Bill Gates gives away $1000, that means far less than the poor person who sacrifices a lot to give away $1000. The quality of charity lies with the giver, not so much with the receiver.

          • Obvious

            I disagree. The value of the service that the money allows to happen, not the status of the giver defines the value of a donation.

        • GreenWin

          Kellogg Co. Inc. reported $4.8 billion gross profits in their annual income statement ending April 4, 2015.

          • Obvious

            So?

      • Mytakeis

        Sometimes I think tax breaks as an incentive to give, over altruistic values, weighs on corporations.

  • GreenWin

    Russia, China, India, Japan, Sweden, Italy – representing nearly half the planet population all have expanding LENR research programs. Apparently so does the U.S. – but they have carefully hidden their work behind an ironic curtain.

    • Gerard McEk

      The capitalists’ only intrest is PROFIT. I hope AR can prove his 1 MW plant soon, because then the US and Europe may join, otherwise other countries will surely win this scientific battle.

    • Jarea1

      How is possible that on one hand we have a lot of research programs, as you say, and on the other hand the mainstream is still saying that cold fussion is not real?
      If we have something, then we should show it and spread it for the sake of this polluted planet.

      • bachcole

        Look at the Amish. They are surrounded by people living 200 to 300 years ahead of them culturally speaking. Never under-estimate how strongly people can cling to their ideas.

        • Omega Z

          Look at the Amish.

          Ahh, but they are a changing. Slowly. They’ve been using gas engine/generators for quite a while now. They have to. They need to refrigerate their milk in order to sell it to processors, tho they keep it minimal & it is sold for the purpose of making Cheese(Class B).

          Gas powered saw mills & thanks to so many of their neighbors not having landline phones they can use, at least 1 in the congregation has a cell phone. They’ll access the internet on occasion by way of a neighbor, But usually from the public library. And I’ve heard of some using solar panels or a home made wind turbine.

    • Mats002

      Sounds like Sweden is kind of populated – not so: we are only 9 million people, nothing compared to the other countrys you lined up. Makes me a little proud though 🙂

      • Omega Z

        China, India & the U.S. are nearly half the worlds population.(3 Billion plus)
        In a few years the lineup will be India, China & the U.S.. The 3 most populous countries in the world.

    • Alan DeAngelis
      • Omega Z

        Heyyy!

        That’s really not Necessary.
        If you don’t agree with GreenWin a simple i don’t agree would suffice…
        🙂

        • Alan DeAngelis

          Actually, I was agreeing with GreenWin. For example, is it true that

          Julian Schwinger’s biography was reedited to remove any references to his support for cold fusion?

          • Omega Z

            Yes, I know
            I was kidding around. See the smiley.