Norwegian Newspaper Aftenpost Reports on LENR — (UPDATE: Bo Høistad Says Reports of his Team’s Confirming Lugano Report Not True)

Thanks to Mats Lewan for sending a link to this article from the largest Norwegian daily newspaper Aftenposten which reports on the topic of LENR/Cold fusion. (English Google translation of the article here)

It’s a typically very cautious mainstream media article, with all the necessary caveats and warnings from experts regarding how the phenomenon is impossible from the point of view of conventional physics. But it does open the door somewhat to the possibility that some hitherto unknown reaction might be taking place. Some well-known LENR proponents/sympathizers are quoted, including Robert Duncan from Texas Tech University, Michael McKubre from SRI International and Bo Bo Høistad from Uppsala University.

SEE UPDATE BELOW

And it’s from Bo Høistad that we get the most interesting piece of information regarding an upcoming report of another apparently successful E-Cat Replication. From the article:

Bo Høistad, who is co-author of the Swedish reports, saying that the articles have not yet been published in a scientific journal because they have verified the results of a new experiment that is independent of Rossi in Italy. An article with further information regarding this is now under preparation. According Høistad it made three independent, similar experiments after their first report, all of which have produced the wanted excess energy.

This means that the reports that we have been hearing of the Lugano team carrying out a replication seem to be accurate — and now it seems that the replication has been successful. If we can get a detailed report from this team on their reactor build and testing protocol, it could go a long way in helping other replicators — which should help with greater public visibility and acceptance of the reality of the Rossi Effect.

I hope it won’t be too long before we see this report.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: (June 21, 2015) Bo Høistad has issued via email a correction to the newspaper report above:

“If information is given in a Norwegian newspaper that we have confirmed the Lugano result it is unfortunately not true.”

  • Jarea1

    wishful thinking!

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Ah yes, the “experts”, the people who came up with this
    thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cb7iqaN91c
    Oh my goodness, what will the experts think the E-Cat?

  • Albert D. Kallal

    It does seem some misunderstanding occurred here. Somewhere between saying they are attempting replications was interpreted as confirmation. Either they not confirmed the experiments, or are not in a position to state as such. Either way, a bit unfortunate since the newspaper “did” stick their neck out based on trusting one of their reporters.

    More unfortunate is the paper having to retract at a time when FEW papers are willing to report on this issue. So some egg on their face, and more worse for the reporter that they trusted on this matter.

    Hopefully a report is forthcoming, and Rossi did mention that someone is “close” to publishing some results – I had assumed it was these folks.

    At least the paper attempted to verify the existence of the 1MW plant as any good reporter would do (ie: find collaborating evidence). Of course for most skeptics the existence of the plant is not enough evidence to convince such people.

    I do think we are “close” to busting down the door of resistance to LENR being able to produce commercial grade power.

    I am MUCH hoping that by mid next year we have our hands on a nice PDF brochure that includes the specs on this plant that is available for purchase. I in fact looking forward to that day – the skeptic’s reaction to this event will be most interesting to watch!

    Regards,
    Albert D. Kallal
    Edmonton, Alberta Canada

    • Omega Z

      Most of the misunderstanding was due to Google Translate.

      Google actually does a pretty good job, but a simple punctuation error or misspelled word can have disastrous results.
      It’s amazing how aware we are of this- In hind sight.

  • Pekka Janhunen

    The text spoke about three replications. The text did not specifically claim that said replications were made by the Lugano team, but such interpretation was made by some readers, aided by some extra ambiguities introduced by google translation. Höistad pointed out that it was a misinterpretation and that by the three tests he had referred to the Russian and Chinese ones. There is no indication of journalistic error and no indication of Höistad changing his statement.

    • Omega Z

      Agreed as to the 3 replications Pekka

      There was also a mention of another paper in the works And some involved with the Lugano test are doing their own replication. This was included in Höistad’s statement that a misunderstanding was committed.

      He also mentioned the on going replication elsewhere a while back & that it is taking longer then originally expected. Probably nothing to report before the end of the year.

    • Omega Z

      It just dawned on me,
      We actually saw a slide of the Lugano group replication a while back. It had several comparable arrangements to the Chinese replication setup.

      That Thread was taken down without explanation.

  • Axil Axil

    Can you explain what the legal implications are? Some NDA put in place by Industral Heat?

  • Omega Z

    That’s possible.

    Another consideration is there are rules & restrictions to publishing in a Science Journal. I believe it’s to the effect it can’t be disclosed in any official capacity prior to submission.

  • Sanjeev

    Høistad communication with Peter denying the newspaper’s report.
    http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2015/06/early-monday-shock-first-fast-edition.html

    • Curbina (not logged in)

      And that’s why I’ve learnt to never get so excited with positive news in LENR land…

    • Jouni Tuomela

      ” It must be a misunderstanding. We are working on a test experiment in Uppsala as you know, but no results are available yet. The confirmations of the Lugano results I know of are the two Russians and one Chinese. Maybe these are the ones the article refers to?”

    • Wishful Thinking Energy

      Who is the second Russian that he is referring too? I’m only familiar with Parkhomov.

      • Sanjeev

        May be he is referring to the two experiments by him.

  • Sanjeev

    Yes, the source must be very solid to have motivated them enough to print it.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Banks buying oil reserves, governments bailing out banks, so whats new. (:

    • Omega Z

      Bernie
      In my post to GW below, I mention Citi bank specifically because I know they bought up lease reserves. They told their investors they got huge deals as the Oil company sold it to them for less then they paid(Below market price). Citi actually made money in resale, but at a much diminished profit. Most of this will be asset write downs & wont cost anyone a whole lot. Only the Governments wont make as much on future lease sales. That’s just the market.

      I do note that the Banks are at their stupid games again. No down payment loans. Yep. Their setting the stage for the next bubble burst & they are still considered to big to fail. Time to break them up into smaller entities. That way they can let some go under. It’s easy to misbehave when the Government(or Taxpayer) covers the risk.

  • Omega Z

    IH/Rossi are following a business model. It is the fastest way to bring this to market. Science can play catch up.

    Seriously, Science can study this for decades & never produce a useable product & seldom compile enough information in a single database that is useable for such. It takes a business to do that & requires large sums of money to sort through all the scattered research.

    You can bet that if IH/Rossi bring a product to market, Other Business will jump all over it where in the scientific path, it would take years. As to Sales argument, One working product on the market will be all the sales argument needed.

    My competitor can under sell me. I must have 1 now for tomorrow, I may not exist. What better incentive is there.

  • Frechette

    It is interesting that this article showed up in a Norwegian paper. The Norwegian Government realizes that the oil fields will eventually be depleted which means the cash flow to the sovereign fund will become drastically reduced. They have decided to use some of the money in the fund to invest in new energy technologies to stay ahead of the curve. LENR may be one such opportunity that has sparked Norwegian interest.

    • GreenWin

      The Norwegian Petroleum Trust is the largest in the world – valued at $900B. It is likely Norway will become an early adopter of LENR as their government is aware of the technology and its impact.

      IMO, the reason for delays (in the entire field) are largely artificial. The press blackout continues as it has since November 9th, 2011 – when Fox News reported a Navy employee from SPAWAR attended Rossi’s successful 1MW demo.

      Those who would like to see the blackout lifted for humanitarian reasons can petition the U.S. Navy or DoD. But keeping LENR below the radar until global investments have moved out of fossil/fission — is a top priority these days.

      • Omega Z

        Actually GW, We have already seen some 2 step shuffle going on.
        Big Oil has sold off long term out reserves at a small loss to entities such as Citi bank, And the circle continues. These entities will take write downs over time offsetting small losses every so often.

        This isn’t to say they wont lose some money in the end, just that most of it will be lost future revenue to the Governments that own it. Governments will find that their reserve values will be substantially less then projected. The U.S. values it’s Oil reserves in excess of 100 Trillion$. When eventually tapped, they may be lucky to get 20 Trillion$ This will effect the Middle East as well as every other Governments Oil reserve values.

        LENR wont be a flat out transition. It merely adds a new metric to the market. It will happen in spurts of acceleration & deceleration. A roller coaster ride. People aren’t much interested in an Electric car when you have $1 gasoline. When it hits $5 they change their tune. And these prices will seesaw for years. LENR will be of a similar situation. However, ultimately over several decades, It will win out as fossils are limited & eventual wont be able to compete in price.

        • GreenWin

          Thanks for the update Omega. Feed stock petroleum will have value for another century. But it will eventually be outlawed as a transportation fuel. And with progress in biogen, I expect to see synthetics replace the need to drill and pump. Oilfield leases, rigs and refineries will be the first “stranded assets” in the energy transition. Next will be nuke power plants.

          • Omega Z

            Hey GW
            A year or so ago, Duke Energy shelved a planned Nuke plant construction project(In Florida). Was because the price of building it had escalated from 2 Billion$ to 25 Billion$ and the spade to ground wasn’t even to start for another 10 years. Their reasoning. They could “Never” recover the cost let alone a ROI.

            Prior to the E-cat, Big Oil was under a lot of pressure to build several New Major Refineries. B.P.’s CEO at that time said they would slightly expand existing facilities & work on improved efficiencies of existing facilities.
            But under No circumstances were they going to build Massive new operations that cost 10’s of Billion$ each.

            His reasoning was similar to Dukes except it was based on Oil of any significance would be depleted before those massive plants could ever produce ROI. Those plants have an average 40 year life before major renovation or replacement.

            He basically gave a timeline to Oil to expensive to be of use. Exxon Echoed his statement. This is why if you see new refineries being built today, it is done by Governments. Not the private sector. Private sector is only renovating the old.

            So when people say Big Oil would want to stop LENR, I ask why. It could only lead to their long term survival, not end it. What’s not burnt will become feed stock & as you point out & they will probably follow with synthetic feed stocks when it becomes necessary or cheaper then what oil is left in the ground. The real threat is to those involved with ITER projects & it’s future or Al Gore & his Carbon credit investments.

  • Jouni

    Funny how they delete comments.
    Mine was about sifferkoll.se. Too hot stuff there??

  • http://lenrftw.net LENR G

    I hope this is true and that the Lugano team took pains to triple-check and corroborate all measurements. It would be good if this new paper was released soon to wash away the ambiguity of the previous one (specifically some questionable assumptions regarding the effective emissivity of alumina and no corroboration of the temperatures read by the IR camera).

    It would be good also if they made all of their data public at the same time as the paper. We could have hundreds of excellent minds working on analyzing this phenomenon instead of 6.

  • Gerrit

    great article.

    It clearly paints the picture that the critics don’t want to spend any time with investigating the topic. Those who do investigate see merit in further investigation.

    The Lugano team has successfully replicated the effect 3 times and will publish a report.

    By spring 2016 Industrial Heat will lift the curtains a little more.

    I am waiting for the official start of CEES at TTU.

    It seems the future will be interesting.

  • builditnow

    Could there be a little help from Rossi to help the Lugano team have successful replications. It seems likely, why else would they have had 3 successful replications when clever scientists and others struggle with largely the same information as the Lugano team had.

    If Rossi helped, then this becomes part of the Industrial Heat release plan.
    Since it is the same team with connections to Rossi, the results could once more be dismissed by the Peer-Rearview nonScience magazines. The result could be a mild response from a few more in the media.

    What would Industrial Heat’s objective be if they helped the Lugano team?
    – Further funding for more development?
    – Preparation for an eventual release in a few years time?
    – Give the Lugano team the recognition they deserve?
    – Help a few in the media that are on-the-fence, go positive towards LENR?

    – Gauge the public attitudes and the attitudes of those controlling public opinion?

    – Gain a patent?

    – An early warning to those who could be negatively impacted so they have a chance to get onboard with LENR rather than resist it?

    What are your thoughts?

    • georgehants

      I cannot answer commercially and of course have no insight of behind the scenes activity but my wife and I have asked Mr. Rossi on several occasions if he would release the minimum knowledge to allow MFMP et al to replicate a basic device for water filters etc. which is their stated humanitarian purpose, he has declined every invitation.
      My wife travels to Ghana to deliver water filters that we have acquired with help from various people including the Rotary Club of Great Briton and are transported free by British Airways.
      The people of Ghana and many other countries desperately need these devices and always give huge thanks including on occasion return the gifts with a goat that my wife etc. has to return to other people.
      I have today asked the question on the Always Open Thread how difficult it would be, now the technology is possibly becoming available to produce a cheap, easy device to use heat to purify water.
      Would love to send Mr. Rossi pictures and thanks from the villagers of Ghana showing the people and children using their water filters made using the knowledge he has donated.

      • builditnow

        Georgehants, I empathize with all the people, animals and plants that have suffered and are suffering at the hands of humanity. We “could” easily do so much better, estimates are about 10 times better even with current technology.
        Delaying LENR is causing massive damage and suffering.
        As disgusting it is for mass shootings, delaying LENR is millions of times worse.

        In Rossi’s defense, in order to be supported, as he is, with cash to do all this work, he needs to do things that satisfy those supplying the funds and support. Rossi could be just like Pons and Flieshmann, spat out and left to die unsupported. I agree, it’s a very unsatisfactory system. It is however the one we are currently in and huge numbers have been suffering for at least the last 20 years due to the system we are in due to LENR not being picked up in 1989. They could likely suffer for a couple more years unless “we followers” make our own breakthrough.

        Rossi has to follow the IH plan dictated by the investors.
        Believe it or not, it’s up to you and me right now to speed this up.
        What are you going to do?

        • georgehants

          builditnow, agree with all you say, a very sad situation caused of course by the system that we have ended up with.
          What am I going to do —
          Have donated to MFMP, write comments on page showing how this system fails many people, other than communicating to people that we know, about Cold Fusion and other failures of the system, like many others I feel helpless against those dictating policy’s.
          I do not have an edge that people like Bill Gates, politicians, top scientists, the Pope, Greenpeace, the media, etc. etc. have, but fail to use to the advantage of Humanity.
          Mostly I spiritually think that things will change for the better.
          Best

          • AdrianAshfield

            The point made earlier that electricity is not available at all in the places where you want to run E-Cats is valid. The operation of the E-Cat may also take some skill.
            The immediate solution would be to build some coal fired power plants and a simple grid. That this i resisted by the greens is the real crime.

      • Omega Z

        George
        Unless they have a grid to plug into, an E-cat would just be a yard ornament. If they Have a grid, reverse osmosis would provide cheaper water.

        • georgehants

          Omega, I do not understand your reply, at present they use the manual filters we supply, as there is little fuel a device powered by cheap Cold Fusion would allow a larger size filter to supply the whole village.

          • Omega Z

            That was my point George.

            The E-cat needs Electrical power to produce heat.
            If they had Electrical power, it would be cheaper to use reverse osmosis.

            Note that the E-cats at small scale also can’t produce enough electricity to run themselves. The conversion efficiency is to low. You still need external Electrical power. We need new technology for small scale. I’ve been following a technology that is promising, but it is years away as of yet.

            P.S.
            Something most here at ECW missed or aren’t aware of.
            The Rossi Lugano Dog-bone was only 3.5Kw & required 1Kw to power it. It would require 3 Lugano Dog-bones to equal a 10Kw Hot-cat.

            • georgehants

              Omega, I see your point, well they had better invent some cheap, powerful easily charged batteries quickly.
              Many thanks.

      • Nigel Appleton

        George, I’m a Rotarian, and our club is happy to donate Aquafilters via Aquabox:

        From the Aquabox website – (referring to the “community” model)

        It operates by a hand pump, and delivers up to 300 litres of drinking water an hour (when used by a relay of pumpers!). It has a washable gauze pre filter to remove solid particles. Membrane washing is done by reverse flushing. Periodic maintenance includes greasing the piston seal with grease supplies from a built in container, seal replacement by a new seals stored on the piston rod, and chemical washing with tablets stored on the unit. Preliminary results show a life in excess of 560,000 litres and over eighteen months (and often longer).

        Whilst perhaps an energy resource to replace the “relay of pumpers” would be desirable, I understand from sources that the act of getting together to produce a day’s (or whatever) supply of water is seen as an important shared activity, contributing to community solidarity and mutual respect and benefit.
        Almost anything is better than trudging miles to carry (possibly dirty) water to the village, and we should not be too quick to force hi-tec solutions where they may not be absolutely necessary, or even wanted.

        Hand-pumps (or “see-saw” pumps on which kids will play for hours) and filters are easy and cheap to operate, maintain, and fix. As soon as you add complexities of motors, engines, heat-exchangers and so on, you are imposing the requirement for extra skills which may not be available.

        As I understand it both the Rotary Club of Great Britain and Rotary International are very keen to ensure that solutions to problems in poorly resourced areas do not create unnecessary further problems

        • georgehants

          Nigel, many thanks for your reply, if you would like to discuss further I have asked Admin to forward Jackie’s e-mail to you if you request.
          Will just say ours is a small personal effort where Jackie try’s to visit Ghana once a year for a month or so to do voluntary work etc. giving her the opertunity to take as many water filters as she can.
          Best

    • http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/ barty

      One big point of knowledge the lugano team has is, that they saw the hot-cat in real.

      The impressions of the reactor and the fuel they saw could have helped them to make clever decisions when choosing the fuel type and heating elements and so on.

      And maybe there was some chattering and shoptalk with Rossi while he was there to remove the ash sample, which was not documented in the report.

      They saw, measured and analysed the REAL hot-cat and got impressions you can’t put into words.
      That’s a huge advantage towards MFMP, me356 and others.

      • Omega Z

        “they will have to release all information”

        Actually, they are not obliged to do this, but I’m certain they will. If for no other reason then they have been defamed & taunted by the critics for even looking at this technology. Pay backs a ……..

    • Andrew

      The report will coincide with a press release about the 1Mw plant and it’s performance. If they are smart they will have manufacturing on standby.

    • Omega Z

      builditnow

      “- Further funding for more development?”

      If Industrial Heat & Rossi reveal a working pilot plant at the end of or begging of next year, Funding is of Zero concern. Organizing Negotiations with GE, Siemens, Babcock & Wilcox, Boeing among dozens of other international corporations will be their biggest nightmare.

      As to a patent, I think some of those in the Lugano team have taken it upon themselves to help Rossi in his quest for such patent by providing additional information.

      • Axil Axil

        The history of things to come…

        It is true that the U.S. scientific community, government, patent office, U.S. based global oil and gas companies, and so on, have a very hostile attitude toward the goals and methods that Rossi has employed in the past and wants to employ in the future. His “too cheap to copy” strategy comes from the Chinese industrial method of market segment monopoly building. This method has been employed to make China the unchallenged manufacturer of solar cells and wind mills worldwide.

        Industrial heat and Rossi are on the same page here. The purpose of both Cherokee LLC and Rossi is the cleanup of the pollution caused by fossil fuels. China is the top candidate for a clean out and restructuring of their energy sector. Industrial heat will partner with China in the manufacturing and sales effort of the E-Cat. China will build a city to manufacture the E-Cat. The head of the communist party can make things happen and overrule regulations. The U.S. on the other hand will get its attack dog, the NRC, to keep the E-Cat out of the U.S. and all the countries that the U.S. dominate. The resistance to LENR will not be easily reversed in the west. But during this time of adjustment to the reality of LENR, the E-Cat will dominate in China and over time China will become an unchallenged military, cultural, and commensal world power.

        The power for LENR to change the world is truly awesome. China will come to dominate in science and there will be a brain drain of the best and most open minded to China where a new era of science will flower. Chinese will become the global language and in the do course of time, China will colonize the outer solar system. The arrogant western science that had rejected Rossi will wither away and those who opposed Rossi will become unemployed as the great centers of learning move to the east. The relics of pompous certitude will eventually pass from the memory of science as a result of lingering spiritual and physical starvation. Stupidity is a cardinal intellectual sin and has a terrible price of retribution to be paid. The time of the judgement of civilizations is at hand. The U.S. and all those who advise her will pay a terrible price for their pride and arrogance.

        • Omega Z

          I disagree that Big Oil will try & stop LENR. If anything, it will extend their existence. Presently, Big Oil sees their existence as such ending in about 40 years. Oil will become economically depleted.

          LENR on the other hand, can extend that time frame & even allow cheap synthetic replacement of Oil. The reason you don’t see Big Oil spending 100 Billion$ building new refineries is there isn’t enough Oil left to provide a ROI on such new ventures. They are in a holding pattern. Only slightly increasing the size of existing facilities or efficiency improvements.

          China. No Way. They have so many internal issues it’s mind boggling. The reason they always resort to harsh heavy handed internal control is they are always on the verge of losing control of their country. Are you aware they have 100’s of unofficial unauthorized Coal power plants & coal mines. The reason they are trying to extend there external footprint is resources. They have 1.5 Billion people to appease. Their political party is struggling for survival.

          Nearly everything manufactured in China is done in a primitive manor. Nearly all of it can be manufactured anywhere in the world as cheap or cheaper. There’s reasons for them doing as they do and most has to do with international redistribution of wealth. Not efficiency. The U.S. is actually behind most of this.

          As to LENR. Rossi has mentioned a plant building 1 million reactors a year. Great. We only need another 1000 of these plants & we’ll have a good start. Then followed by doubling production of each plant. Of course you also need 1000’s of factories to build the add-ons that make use of these reactors. This is all going to require a Global effort. Also, none of this stuff lasts forever. When the world has finally transitioned, About 40/50 years, it will be time to start replacing it all.

          Military expansion. We need to change the World mentality. I recall growing up hearing people say stupidities like, we need a major war to put people to work. I have a Better Idea. Lets cooperate & build a Space exploration & colonization mentality.

          It will accomplish the same thing & doesn’t require the intentional killing of people. There is a name for this. It’s called an Economic Driver. And Space exploration beats Military expansion hands down. Military spending generates 1.5$ of economic activity for every dollar spent. Space exploration generates $7 of economic activity for every dollar spent.
          People can take pride in their Space savvy rather then Military savvy.

          Final note: The Government can help & has it’s place, It best to let the private sector take the lead. They are better at it & can make it economical. The Government will just bankrupt the system. Any Government…

        • friendlyprogrammer

          Racist much. I’m surprised Frank would approve such blatant racism on EcatWorld.

          I disagree on the racist bits and on the articles content. Once proof
          of concept is beyond question then no sane politician would rally
          against it. Don’t count the United States and the rest of the world out
          just yet.

          One of the greatest setbacks of LENR is in the form of
          the evil Steven Krivit of Newenergytimes who is fighting tooth and nail
          against LENR to keep his livelihood.

          We know Rossi had a past that involved raking in over $30 million USD in a waste management business located in Italy.

          Apparently…
          apparently the mafia reaches as far as Italy.. Who knew? Apparently
          they like to dominate waste management… Who knew?

          Anyways; even
          though Rossi could have hid from his charges of fraud as the POTUS
          handed him an American Visa. Rossi returned to face his accusers and
          beat all of the charges of fraud except a small tax evasion bit. IF
          you were to search for Andrea Rossi however you will be regaled with
          tales of how he is a fraud, etc. I realize this does not portray him
          in an accurate light, but it has hurt the credibility of his discovery
          since it is the first things skeptics point at in hundreds of websites
          nowadays.

          I say Steven Krivit is evil because his mission to
          sabotage LENR has delayed its progress, and with a technology that can
          slow or possibly reverse global warming trends that is tantamount to
          mass murder..

          I must say Axil Axil, that your last paragraph is
          almost as racist as you can get under the wire. You claim that Chinese
          will become the global language, and that the Chinese will colonize
          space while the

          “The U.S. and all those who advise her will pay a terrible price for their pride and arrogance”

          Let me guess. You are Chinese? Tough guess dude.

          “The arrogant western science that had rejected Rossi will wither away”…

          Yes .. we get your point.. Just too bad these forward thinking Chinese cannot live in a free and democratic society.

          I
          am not impressed by The Chinese in any way. Look at this video of a
          two year old dying in a Chinese street while over a dozen Chinese People

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVYUzHc5L8

          ignore it. This would not happen to a dog in the United States. A
          society that disregards human life to the point where that can happen is
          not worth saving.

          If you do watch this.. Count how many people walk right past this dying child. I counted 13+

          Do not watch if you ever want to like China again, or want to avoid nightmares.

          This may seem normal to someone in China, but it would never happen to a dogin North America. Sadly the child died. My children are half Asian
          so I am not racist against Asians. I am mad at the culture that could
          breed such contempt towards human life as might be the same with any
          race living in a country that puts such a low standard of decency.

  • Mike Henderson

    The open science efforts have struggled with replication. Clearly there are undisclosed or overlooked conditions required for reliable ignition. I hope the publication provides a better basis for understanding these pre-requisites and fully supports the ability to replicate.

    • Omega Z

      Mike
      I’m certain that their are undisclosed or not yet understood details, but one of the biggest impediments seems to be a lack of patience. If a necessary component or equipment doesn’t arrive in time, the test should be postponed.

      Usually the argument goes, we’ll run it anyway & see what we learn. This is a waste of time & material$ which tend to delay a good test run. It’s also a good example of a lack of patience. They just can’t contain themselves. You also have teams involved. A little competition goes a long ways. As in, wouldn’t it be great if we did this 1st. These thoughts are always lurking in the shadows. They can make people anxious & impatient even if they may not be aware.

    • Nigel Appleton

      I thin a lot more thought has to be given to the composition of the fuel, and the heating/”ignition” regime. Why is it necessary (or is it) to use such a slow ramp up after the 200 deg C phase?
      What are the necessary conditions for “self-sustenance”, how long does it take a working reactor to get to this point, and why?
      Would fuel from a part-used reactor enhance/speed up a new one if added to new fuel?

  • Curbina

    At last the so awaited news. And in a good day also. I will however reserve my joy for the day of the publication and subsequent anticipated forensic dissection of the methodology. And I’d also like to share this excellent article that Peter Gluck shared in his blog yesterday, and that I think is good to have in mind to see the magnitude of the fight that LENR is facing constantly:

    http://www.goldenline.pl/grupy/Pozostale/teoria-wzglednosci-musi-odejsc/the-suppression-of-inconvenient-facts-in-physics,3036420/

    • Dave Lawton

      Time Lord” Louis Essen his work was suppressed.

  • Buck

    I think this is a good Father’s Day gift for Rossi and P&F.

    Happy Father’s Day to all.

    • Sanjeev

      Can be Mats Lewan?
      That’s a very positive article for a msm newspaper.

      • Buck

        Sanjeev,

        I’m not inclined to guess that it is Mats Lewan. The following quote IMO points to some else. Who? I don’t know.

        “This source has heavy scientific background in relevant subjects, has even been present and able to inspect the container. The
        reason that he does not want to be named, is that it is considered very
        dangerous for his career to embrace the highly controversial phenomenon
        of cold fusion”

        • Curbina

          Norman Cook, I think he could be.