Induction Coils with Titanium/Hydride tablet — Does it Self Sustain? (Video)

Thanks to Pelgrim for sharing a link to this video which comes from the Laboratory of Experimental Physics — also known as “TET” — in Ukraine.

This laboratory has been involved in a wide variety of research projects in rather unconventional areas over the years, and now they are looking at Rossi’s E-Cat as an area to explore. Their website provides details of their research activities in the LENR area.

One project involves efforts to replicate Rossi and Parkhomov — with an important difference. Here’s a quote from their website:

“The main difference between our research from the experiments of Alexander Parkhomov and Andrea Rossi is the fact that we use as a sorbent metal — titanium. When hydrogen absorbtion of titanium we observed similar effects of excess heat. When applying hydrogen pressure in the reaction zone precluding sorbtion we observed temperature rises of titanium powder to 50-70 degrees C and this cannot be explained by the chemical nature of the reaction”

There’s no measurement data to go along with the video, so all we have to go on is the commentary from the narrators. There’s perhaps some information here that can be useful to replicators and give ideas for further experimentation.

  • pelgrim108

    Some say nitrogen kills LENR. I dont know about argon.

  • pelgrim108

    New video. Introducing hydrogen under pressure in a quartz tube gives instant glow rise.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4FlyPrDtDs

    • Ecco

      Not only instant but also apparently long-lasting.

    • GreenWin

      Fascinating. An apparent new body of experiments focused on H2 pressure on titanium fuel. Yet another LENR-type effect.

  • Axil Axil

    http://www.pnnl.gov/science/highlights/highlight.asp?id=803

    Did you know that zirconia is isoelectically the same as palladium. Zirconia can replace palladium because of its electron structure. Add 16 protons to the zirconium count and you get to palladium. This Is. another reason why zirconia is good for LENR.

  • Axil Axil

    What makes a transition metal LENR active?

    The formation of Surface Plasmon polaritons requires the formation of a optical box that keeps light confined. Light must be contained long enough for it to mix with electrons to form a new form of boson called a polariton.

    Nickel is the best metal to use to form this box because it will reflect inferred light better than any other metal. Nickel forms a near perfect reflector of infrared light (Heat). The other side of the optical box is a sheet of electrons that float on the surface of the nickel. These electrons are kept in place on the surface of the nickel by a dielectric gas. Hydrogen is such a gas.

    Other transition metals are almost as good an infrared light reflector as nickel. Zirconium and titanium are almost as good at providing the optical side of the light box as nickel. This is why zirconium and titanium are often used in LENR systems.

    The Russians Like titanium because they have spent many years of experimentation with exploding titanium wire to produce LENR effects. When a titanium wire explodes, it produces nanoparticles that form a sort of LENR cavitation reaction that are found in many LENR systems. These clouds of condensing titanium plasma produce the SPP LENR reaction.

    I believe that alumina tube uses in the Dogbone experiments can be better replace with a tube of zirconium, zirconia(zirconium oxide) or titanium because those metals and oxides will reflect infrared light better than alumina. These metals also have a very high melting point and is resistant to shock. The zirconia is best at a melting point of 2,715 °C. The cost of a zirconia tube is about $300.

    For those experimenters who want a better reactor tube than alumina, try zirconium or zirconia.

    • Mats002

      Wow. Piantelli ruled out all metallic (atomic lattice) materials BUT transitions metals. Little did he know the underlying reason for this. I think your’e at the spot Axil. Your analysis also add more solutions than master Piantelli could forsee, asuming you are right – which I bet some Swedish kronor on 😉

      • Axil Axil

        Perhaps the most famous Japanese cold fusion researcher is Yoshiaki Arata, from Osaka University, who claimed in a demonstration to produce excess heat when deuterium gas was introduced into a cell containing a mixture of palladium and zirconium oxide(ZrO2), a claim supported by fellow Japanese researcher Akira Kitamura of Kobe University and McKubre at SRI.

        See

        http://www.rexresearch.com/arata/arata.htm

        Also see

        Dr G. Miley’s device, seen in the drawing below, does not require an external heat source, relying on the chemical reactions within it to produce the heat energy needed to run the unit. The fuel is ZrO2 (zirconium dioxide) and deuterium pressurized to 413 kilo pascals (60 psi).

        see

        http://www.21stcentech.com/energy-update-lenr-no-commercial-product/mileys-lenr/

        • Mars002

          Well, we need live running experiments to prove this. As a pure logical rule-out (and rule-in which is never outspoken) by the facts considered we share a conclusion. None of the links are useful to *know*.

  • oceans

    if you go to their website you can see pictures of this project and other interesting projects..
    http://tet.in.ua/index.php/en/andrea-rossi-reactor-e-catt/photos

  • mwr1176

    This is cool but I would love to see someone put it in a journal.

  • Agaricus

    On a more complete reading of this paper, if we take it at face value (and there doesn’t seem to be any reason not to do so), this seems to be a disclosure of great importance in the search for viable ‘LENR’ systems (although according to the authors’ theories, ‘LENR’ is no longer a relevant terminology and will need to be replaced).

    There is a goldmine of information relating to plasma reactor systems, a theory of operation involving energy-asymetric reversible deformation of hydrogen electron shells, and the following multiple leads for would-be replicators (I hope the authors will forgive the unauthorised copying):

    After participating in the workshop “Cold fusion and fireball” in the People’s Friendship University, Moscow, 25 December 2014. On which Parkhomov AG reported on the replication of the reactor Rossi, we decided to conduct its own similar experiment. We invited Parkhomov AG in our laboratory, and we had a very friendly and constructive meeting. We discuss the details of his experiment, and our understanding of the processes that occur within the ceramic reactor.

    The main difference from our research experiments Parkhomov A. G. and Andrea Rossi that we use as a sorbent of metal – titanium. When the hydrogen absorption of titanium observed similar effects by excessive heat generation. When the supply of hydrogen under pressure in the reaction zone, at temperatures precluding sorption, there is a rise in the temperature of the titanium powder at 50C-70C, and this rise cannot be explained by the chemical nature of the reaction. Experiments in other laboratories, showed significantly if the hydrogen is replaced by deuterium, with all things being equal the Delta of the temperature rise twice. Nuclear diagnostics it shows a slight neutron flash and pulse of gamma radiation, which speaks once again about the non-chemical nature of this phenomenon. The priority in this field reactions of deuterium with titanium belongs to S. A. Tsvetkov (Russia) who 1997 applied and received the patent of Russian Federation 2145123 “Method of nuclear fusion and the device for its implementation”.

    You should pay special attention to the fact that in excess in the reactor pressure up to 15 ATM. begin self-similar oscillations of temperature and pressure at a constant input power to the reactor. Reaction as it begins to “breathe” and maintain itself. The same self-similar 50-degree oscillations visible on the chart in experiment of A. G. Parkhomov when the temperature reaches 1300 deg C. To the reaction was in self-oscillating mode and not gone “off the rails”, it is important to balance the input and exhaust capacity.

    On the basis of the conducted research we can already start making and production of cost-effective electric boilers and heaters. Expected savings of this type of heating elements, in comparison with conventional heating elements, 3-4 times. The consumer of an electricity meter with billing day/night, will eliminate or significantly reduce the consumption of gas. In this case, the financial cost of heating the home, garden, office and industrial premises can be reduced by 6-7 times. The advantage (over ceramic at

    1300 deg C) the proposed fuel tubes in the fact that the working temperature is in the range 650 deg C-950 deg C, allowing them to be used in the production cycles, high temperature and currently used conventional heating elements. For example, in the forest/dryers, for heating poultry houses and poultry farms in the extruder for molding polymeric materials, various heat guns, etc. It is also possible to replace the gas burners in domestic and industrial boilers and in-line installation of thermal tubes in the combustion

    chamber volume without alteration of the heat exchanger and all replace selection system. A large segment of the market includes the residents of country houses, cottages, owners of vegetable and flower greenhouses, where the construction of gas distribution networks is impractical or non-existent. Even with gas heating, where there is a monthly limit on the volume of gas, many people duplicate the heating electric boiler.

    The proposed high-temperature fuel module (VTM) as follows. Stainless pipe, possibly covered with a thin ceramic layer, to provide insulation and oxidation from atmospheric air, with a diameter of 10-12mm and a length of 300-500mm. The tube is loaded with a powder or tablet titanium. Mass loading of 30 and 50 grams, respectively. The approximate time to

    replace the powder or tablets – 6 months. The fuel capacity of a single module length 300mm 1 to 2 kW. Length of 500mm from 3 to 4 kW. To achieve greater required capacity VTM gather in packs. The use of stainless steel tube (316L steel) and a pneumatic inlet valve Swagelok (Germany) or Hy-Lok (South Korea), will make the operation of heating elements are safe and durable. On shows the block diagram shows the Assembly of four VTM. Step-down transformer fed from 220 or 380 volts, lowers the voltage to 5 volts, and connect the low-voltage winding, with high-current terminals located at the ends of the stainless tubes.

    It is a reliable and easy way of heating, instead of using a nichrome heaters. The system is supplied buffer capacity high pressure volume to 1 liter, pressure sensors and temperature, and the unit of automation and control. More promising for heating, in our opinion are thermal modules of low temperatures from 50 deg C to 120 deg C (NTMs). The property of some intermetallic compounds such as LaNi5 and FeTi interact with hydrogen/deuterium at room temperatures, but at pressures above 20 ATM. In this case, there is no need to use electrical energy and the reaction starts immediately when the pressure of hydrogen in the tube. I.e. in fact, we have an Autonomous source of heat. According to some

    laboratories, after the filing of deuterium under pressure up to 30 ATM. in the reactor zone where the low-temperature intermetallic PdZr in powder form, the wall temperature of the reactor rises from ambient to 80 deg C and kept for two days. It’s safe to assume that it be the same with a much cheaper and affordable intermetallic compound – FeTi. We expected in our experiment the same self-oscillating process of rise and fall of temperature, as was observed in the case of high-temperature reactor. What will be the duration of this reaction, what is the period of self-oscillations and the possibility of a reaction to kesatuan – this will answer a direct experiment. Now manufactured multifunctional hydride hydrogen source of high pressure, which is connected to the pneumatic system. Quartz reactors are replaced by stainless steel high pressure reactors. In case of successful testing of an HTM fuel element will be much easier and functionally easier to fit in the heating system.

    • georgehants

      Morning Peter, many thanks for your most comprehensive coverage, great help.
      Best

      • Agaricus

        Morning George – not so nice today.

        This is the most exciting development I’ve seen in a while (perhaps I need to get out more!). A new (to me, anyway) theory, a detailed history of positive results, and a claim that this group can already build viable cold fusion heaters – all pretty stunning stuff.

        • georgehants

          Lovely in Penzance today, Ha.
          Peter, it is all so exciting at my time of life, the Internet is Wonderful, to be able to follow and chat as we do on such an important subject.
          Pray that it all works out well for everybody without any of the usual human mishaps.
          Good to feel that our children, grandchildren etc. can look forward to a chance of a better life Worldwide.
          We of course still wait for that final indisputable Evidence when the bottle of good stuff can be opened.

          • Agaricus

            Amen to that.

            • GreenWin

              I am just catching up with this. I agree gents. A rather stunning disclosure of this type R&D. This appears to suggest there are already viable alternatives to the E-Cat utilizing titanium powders and pressurized H2.

              “The invention is governed by the combined three part (Cavity, Tunneling, Spring) Rubiit Cavity Spring theory. Fifty grams of the Titanium multi-element fuel is capable of producing 100000 kwH of energy…”

              This should open a few more eyes in academia. Although academia appears to be dead last in acceptance of these new technologies.

      • suhas R

        wonderful to see our titanium powder use supported by them.we had reported few months back——
        suhas R Andreas Moraitis • 4 months ago
        Rubiitpower india has done it with processed–rigorously surface engineered — Titanium micro powder with other metal powders and standard hydrides to repeatedly achieve just under 5kwH. level.
        Our expts with quartz tubes were miserable thermo-mechanical failures

        • Agaricus

          Austenitic stainless or tungsten for high temperatures seem to be the way to go. Congratulations on your successes (I’m assuming excess heat shown?) – any web links?

        • pelgrim108

          Congratulations on your invention.

          Future Plans for Rubiitpower

          The concept prototype has been tested for stable 5kwh energy for over a
          month.Want to set production line in 2016 with the further refined
          Technology for 10kwh eqpt .

          It will be a big advantage for the world if you succeed. Thank you for your efforts.
          Please update us regularly on the company’s progress.

  • Agaricus

    Simple, easy to build, nothing to burn out, I like this a lot, and intuitively feel its the way to go. I believe that there is evidence to indicate that Rossi probably used induction heating at some point, and learned about the importance of alternating EM fields through such experiments.

    I’m not sure about the logic of using titanium, but the design allows virtually any ‘fuel’ mix to be tried, with any desired waveform applied to the coils – a very useful, re-usable ‘test bed’ reactor. Sealed capsules made of ‘austenitic’ (high nickel/chromium) stainless steel or non-magnetic tungsten alloy (tungsten/copper/nickel) could be used to allow H2 pressure from hydrides to build up inside them.

    I hope to see many others trying this approach.

  • Alain Samoun

    I understand that the Titanium hydride is placed inside a ceramic container and heated by induction. But this seems to be in air so what we see maybe only thermal decomposition of the hydride and the release of hydrogen and its burning in air?

  • bfast

    I know that there is very little information here — but this looks VERY interesting! I am most intrigued by the statement that they are removing all power, and the reaction is very actively continuing.

    • Agaricus

      From their conclusion:

      On the basis of conducted research we can already start making and production ofcost-effective electric boilers and heaters. Expected savings of this type of heating elements (Ed. i.e., containing thier LENR reactors), in comparison with conventional heating lements, 3-4 time (Ed. i.e. COP=3-4). Etc.

      Lots of other interesting observations – recommended reading!

  • Rigel

    I would be concerned about breathing the fumes I would hope that the DYI teams practice some safety. Maybe ECW can discuss this each type of substance (e.g. berylium or titanium) that is vaporizing. But the method and idea is ingenious.

  • SG

    I’m confused. Are the copper coils used for heating the Titanium/Hydride tablet? In other words, are they pumping power through those coils? Or are they pumping water through the coils to extract heat from the reaction? Or both?

    • US_Citizen71

      I think both.

      • SG

        That strikes me as ingenious.

    • Gerard McEk

      The coil is used for induction heating of the small tablet inside the coil. This can also be used for heating Ni+LiAlH4 inside a tube. Unfortunately is temperature mesurement using a thermocouple not possible because industion heating would also heat the TC. You have to use an infrared pyrometer then.

      • Nigel Appleton

        I believe that, for thin thermocouple wires, and certain ranges of frequencies, parasitic heating of the thermocouple can be neglected.
        Certainly, in one of my setups, a steel tube is heated very satisfactorily (>1200 C), but the K-type thermocouple inserted by itself in the work coil heats hardly at all

        • Gerard McEk

          That is what I assumed also but see this link: http://www.maneyonline.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1179/1743290113Y.0000000069
          I expected that nickel micro powder would not be very sensitive for induction heating (IH), but when you reed that report you will see it is. The reason I expected not was that eddy currents would see too much resistance between the particles.
          An insulated thin thermocouple wire may not be so sensitive for heating by IH, but the reading (uV!) may be influenced by the induction and cause false readings. I would be very suspicious when using a TC while using IH. The sort of TC materials and the frequency of the IH will influence, but how much I do not know.

          • Axil Axil

            Research has shown a relationship between the frequency of the alternating current and the heating depth of penetration: the higher the frequency, the shallower the eddy current heating in the part. Frequencies of 100 to 400 kHz produce relatively high-energy heat, ideal for quickly heating small parts or the surface/skin of larger parts. THis is the condition that applies in the dogbone reactor. We want to stay away from the core of the reactor with the RF. For deep, penetrating heat, longer heating cycles at lower frequencies of 5 to 30 kHz have been shown to be most effective. But at 1009C to 1100C, RF might not be effective due to the lack of magnetic behaviour in the very hot nickel powder.

            There might need to be a goodly amount of design thought put into the induction heating setup, to get the optimum results.

            • Nigel Appleton

              At least it’s feasible to “tune” an induction heating coil by altering its morphology and the associated capacitors. I’ve also been using a PWM to adjust the duty cycle and frequency superimposed on the work coil’s resonant frequency. I need to arrange water-cooling for the MOSFETS, losing too many!

              • Ted-X

                The principle of a welding transformer can be used to do excellent heating. The Ni powder would be located in a toroidal tube, forming a short-circuited coil with high current and low voltage (this is how the welding transformer works).