New Fire and Ancient Fire Compared (Mike Henderson)

The following comment by Mike Henderson was originally posted on this thread.

The new fire seems similar to ancient fire.

When lighting a fire, conditions must be within fairly tight specs.

The ratio of fuel to air must be within certain bounds, the structure of the tinder fuel should allow for some flow-through. There must not be too much wind, nor too much moisture. An ignition source must be present and applied at the right time and place. Once lit, wood fuel must be physically supported to assure airflow.

When it doesn’t work ever time, some begin to wonder “Was this fire ever lit?” Fortunately, the new fire leaves an ash whose isotopic makeup would be difficult, at best, to fake. Unfortunately, isotopic analysis is expensive and beyond the reach of DIY experimenters.

It takes practice and patience to learn how to light a fire. Likewise, it will take time to sort out how to predictably light the new fire. We are gradually learning what those conditions might be. Parkhomov’s nickel? Chopped waveform? Temperature profile? Negative pressure? Hydrogen loading? Lithium source?

Keep up the noble work.

  • GreenWin

    Sanjeev, indeed it is a condescending (disguised as satire) look at homo-sapien ignorance. Not too long ago, filmmaker Spike Lee made a film about white America’s view of Negroes. It is titled “BAMBOOZLED,” — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C45g3YP7JOk — and it documents how mainstream America was instructed to view black Americans. The racist depiction is remarkably similar. That is, subliminal prejudice based on stereotype.

    With all the superior intellect, IQ, and technical prowess we see from our angelic friends… How is it this undercurrent of misanthropy continues? Of course reckless humans threaten universal currents (they are militant children with M-80s!) But must we continue the pejorative references and stereotypes? Are they any less destructive than the Indian cab driver, Chinese laundryman, or drunken Russian??

    I expect better from enlightened beings. And when I do not see it — the conclusion is, said beings are not enlightened.

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Clan of the Cave Bears series is likely the best novel series I have read. It is the 2nd of two series that I have re-read. It portrays the primitive people living quite well. Of course in the beginning there must have been some confusions, but anyone remotely familiar with life outside a living room would know to keep tinder and fire making materials dry (Especially when it’s wet and cold).

    I would imagine certain climates were more forgiving than others, but mankind would not have ventured north during the ice age had they not had fire mastered at that point.

    We can only imagine, but I’m inclined to think fire was mastered by humans before most of us would call them humans. Neanderthal’s is the better term.

    I imagine man has had groups lose the ability to make fire as recently as this past week where someone somewhere is in the woods without a match or a clue.

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Guess it’s a slow LENR news day. I feel like we might as well compare LENR to a toaster oven. The toaster uses elements to get the heat up enough to cause the necessary reactions in the bread…

  • Bob Matulis

    Great analogy! I am keeping hopeful about LENR but until some of these credible and public tests produce positive results nagging doubts persist. Time will tell.