Rossi on Tesla Motors and Elon Musk: ‘We are in Contact’

A reader on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today shared with Rossi a link to Tesla Motors’ Powerwall technology, and suggested that the Tesla battery could be used as means of starting the E-Cat’s reactions, and also to store energy produced. And then asked: “Did you ever considered to start some kind of co-operation with Elon Musk?”

Rossi responded:

Andrea Rossi
May 7th, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Rafal Krych:
Very interesting as a storage of energy too.
We are in contact.
Warm Regards

This is a typically brief response which could be interpreted in a wide range of ways. At one extreme it could simply mean that once upon a time there was an email exchange between someone at Industrial Heat and someone at Tesla; on the other extreme it could mean that they are talking regularly at the highest levels. One can only speculate, but it does seem likely that each organization is aware of the other’s existence, and there has been some level of communication.

At the recent product launch event for the Powerwall battery, Elon Musk referred to the sun as a ‘handy fusion reactor in the sky’ which produces ‘a ridiculous amount of energy’ — and the Powerwall and Powerpack battery systems are designed to use solar. There was no hint from Musk that he was thinking about another source of power (LENR) to charge his batteries. However he’s a smart man, and I would imagine that if there was a chance that LENR could be shown to be a more effective energy source, he would be interested in making modifications in his model.

In addition, Rossi has mentioned in the past that solar-powered E-Cats could work in certain circumstances, so there may be ways for Tesla/IH collaboration to take place using solar as the energy source to drive E-Cats.

I don’t think Rossi will elaborate on his statement about being in contact with Tesla — but as always he seems open to ideas that are presented to him by his readers.

  • Omega Z

    There is a difference in subsidies, tax breaks & tax deductions.
    If your employer spends $10K on your health insurance & the Government doesn’t tax it as corporate profit, it is a tax deduction to encourage the employer to provide this coverage. A subsidy would be the Government kicking back a portion of that $10K to the employer. The fact that the government also doesn’t tax it as part of “your” income is an out right tax break to you.

    Elon Musk is getting a 1.5 Billion$ tax break spread over 10 years on his Mega Plant. I don’t have an issue with that. He wouldn’t build it without these breaks & the jobs & income tax revenues would be lost without it. This is a win for the Government. Tho the Government paying for a portion of the finished product is a Subsidy.

    There are very few Subsidies in the fossil fuel industry. Most are tax deductions. As in, Wages paid out or equipment purchased are not taxed as profit.(As with all business) It is an expense. A tax break or tax deduction. You best hope the people who twist this don’t prevail because nearly everything will increase by 50% or more in costs to the consumer. Note that equipment investment will still be taxed as a Capitol gain.

    In Essence, A subsidy is when the Government Actually gives you money directly out of pocket. Like paying 1/3rd of the cost of solar or wind production costs. Not “applying” a tax is a tax break or deduction.

    Note that the U.S. Government gets 16% of all gross revenue sales of coal, gas & oil from federal lands plus many other fees & are considering raising that to 25%. That means your cost will increase making so called green energies cost competitive. Not because they are cheaper, but because fossil energy is artificially being price inflated.

    State Governments are also in on this game. Usually labeled a separation tax. And this doesn’t include the average 50+ cents a gallon tax at the pump. You could legitimately claim who subsidizes who.

    Coal is dirty & harms and Kills people. No Argument here. How many would have been harmed & have died without it. When I was very young, my parents burned wood & coal in a pot belly stove. Without it, we would have froze to death.

    Life is about trade offs. Vaccines kill or cripple a small percentage of every 100K people who receive them. But the number is much smaller then the diseases they prevent. This is a positive outcome. It doesn’t mean we should stop looking for something better.

    A Modern Coal plant can capture over 95% of all the pollutants. This is a great improvement from the past. It doesn’t mean we should stop looking for something better. LENR will also have it’s own negative impacts tho it will be another great improvement. But we should continue to work towards something even better. Always….

  • Omega Z

    I sold 1 Ev car last year. I sold 2 Ev car’s this year. Sales are up 100% year over year. Such numbers don’t mean much when you start from a small footprint to begin with. Norway is a small country & small market.

    Total world car production runs between 76/80 million vehicles a year. Target sales of Ev’s was 400K for 2014. That’s about 0.5 percent of total vehicle sales. If you double that over the next 5 years to 800k(1%), From an investors point of view, this is huge. In reality it is a pittance.

    Elon Musk is now pushing his Powewall. Do you understand the reasoning behind that. His Mega plant will produce 500K batteries a year. About 200K more then the Ev market will be able to absorb for some time. He needs a market for that surplus or his batteries will cost substantially more then his target of about $12K each. Or his plant will go broke.

    Ev’s are not as economical as some imply. Take away the subsidies/tax breaks & cost shifting & look again. There is deception afoot. And, when the 3 to 4 cent mileage tax come into effect their will be another eye opener. With a 200 mile range using the 3 cent figure will be $6 a charge plus the cost of electricity which is also laden with increasing tax rates. Still cheaper then a tank of gas, but not so much when you figure all the hidden fees.

    There is a reason for all the propaganda, hype & gimmicks when promoting agenda’s. People don’t tend to buy in if you tell them it will ultimately cost them much more then they pay now. We can only hope new technology breakthroughs will come & change the equations for the better.

  • EEStorFanFibb

    European Union Electric Car Sales Up 58% In Q1 2015

  • EEStorFanFibb

    the model s is not small

  • builditnow

    Think ahead to self flying cars

  • builditnow

    So, for instance, Mike McKubre at SRI has reliably produced excess heat many many times, that’s just one lab with credibility that can do it. There are many other such credible top scientists and labs also able to reliably reproduce clearly positive LENR results in lab experiments.

    Clearly you have not even taken a close look at the SRI work, just for a start.
    When and if you decide to actually read the reports and evaluate the results, let me know your evaluation then. Any competitent scientist can evaluate the SRI results for instance. The question is, why don’t they bother.

    If you don’t do your own evaluation, your become a non thinking repeater station of old and out of date information.
    (SRI is Stanford Research International, associated with Stanford University, right in the middle of Silicon Valley. Mike McKubre’s team has over 100 person years of research into LENR over 26 years.)

  • Gerard McEk

    If an E-cat or Hot cat is interated in this Heat and electricity home unit:
    and combined with the Tesla motors Powerwall, than we may have an ideal power/heating unit to make you totally independent from the grid!