So, if the E-Cat goes open source, what then? (Charlie Sutherland)

The following comment was submitted by Charlie Sutherland

This has been fun.  I’ve been reading a bit on the E-Cat specifically and LENR (cold fusion) in general. It seems it is well on its way to reality and tending toward open source technology as more folks get into the research.

Assuming LENR energy is real and open source, this is going to be one crazy century.  It is hard to imagine the new freedoms that come with personal portable energy.  With little need for the grid and no need for the infrastructure to sustain it, what then?  

If, eventually, the LENR powered family GPS and RADAR navigated collision-free quadrocopter takes over for today’s family car and UPS and Fedex and Papa John’s delivers the world’s goods to your door with variations of these things, what need is there for roads?  

If eventually your LENR power units deliver, electricity, heat & AC, water, waste disposal, the power for your garden tractor and transportation, etc., how do governments and nations change?   Hope I live long enough to see the changes…..What fun!

Charlie Sutherland

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Yes. lol. I’m still hoping for LENR power by then. I’m pushing 50 now.

  • QuestionEverything

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    many earlier preposterous claims, like being omniscient or having the
    capability to annihilate whole nations.

    Since Keshe started
    telling fairy tales of his technology about 10 years ago, he has to this
    day never produced anything reasonable. His “patents” are failed patent
    applications, his “flying car” is photoshopped, and the delivery of his
    “3-4kW plasma reactors”, which he announced nearly 4 years ago (and for
    which about 150 people paid 500 EUR deposit) has been postponed about 15
    times by now. His several grandiose announcements of “releasing his
    technology” (e.g. on 09/21/2012) have turned out as spectacular as a wet firecracker. All his
    technological claims can easily be refuted as mismeasurements or
    misinterpretation of measurements. He doesn’t have a clue of physics.

    phony “reactors”, that Keshe’s followers show in his various workshops
    don’t produce any reasonable result. They don’t produce net energy, they
    don’t produce “lift”, and they certainly don’t produce — one of
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    just spinning spheres and an endless cause for futile discussions among
    Keshe followers.

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  • friendlyprogrammer

    “Imagine your wife not wanting to go on your worldwide voyage and you
    guys get into a big fight about it and she decides to divorce you.”

    Dang! Now I want to leave tomorrow. 🙂

  • georgehants

    Cold Fusion Now
    Special LENR issue of Current Science available now

  • friendlyprogrammer

    This has been discussed before on Franks Website.

    Imagine your $700 60″ television required shipping and heating/AC in every plant that supplied a single widget for its production. If all that shipping and heating and power was suddenly at a greatly reduced price then that $700 television might drop in price to less than half of that.

    I also predict the comeback of Blimps which is an ideal and fun way to travel if you remove the risks of explosion.

    Imagine opening your window in downtown New York city and breathing in the fresh “country” air free of pollutants. Imagine what you might do with the extra years that might add to your life.

    Imagine a desert transformed into a virtual rainforest because of all the cheaply desalinated water being piped into it. Imagine the life it would feed and nourish.

    Imagine 600 million less smog producing cars/trucks replaced with vehicles that you can drive on a whim to a hotel a dozen towns over that has greatly reduced rates because everything will be cheaper if energy is very cheap.

    Imagine buying a motorhome because it just makes sense to have the biggest vehicle possible.

    Imagine you will be glad for that motorhome when you realize there are no more gas stations to go to the washroom in.

    Imagine an economic boon like never before as people can afford a lot more items.

    Imagine Global warming might slow and/or even reverse.

    Imagine every street lit up like downtown Vegas. You may never see stars again.

    I plan on sailing around the world a few times during my retirement. If I can ditch the sails and have LENR power it could double or triple the size of the boat I’d use and shorten the time to reach places if I could motor there.

    I envision there will be a zillion quadcopter style drones roaming every city and a dozen combined will carry swings with passengers or deliveries. The drones would switch themselves out during trips and stop at public charging locations on the rooftops, but you would never even notice that the 12 drones that were originally carrying you were all swapped during the trip. (drones can already carry people in unison, Juggle balls, and throw/catch balls in unison.
    Imagine jumping out of a highrise and being caught by those. A quick way to the subway?
    (if you have never seen that video.. check it out…. It’s the future…)
    Imagine a drone carrying a epipen or defibrillator dispatched to your location with a button press.
    (imagine following with a dozen drones as opposed to two that can switch out and in.)

    I think every drone will belong to the government to regulate and keep safe, but they will still be plentiful and useable by the public. Unfortunately this will come after drone terror attacks which nobody is preparing for.

    Oops.. My futuristic ecat ideas.. turned into a drone comment…

    Oh well…. I’ll end it with this one. lol

  • Axil Axil

    Have you ever considered what complete control of the nuclear forces: the strong and the weak would bring to man in the control his environment? To stimulate your imagination, consider the star trek replicator. But with great power in the hands of all and sundry comes great danger, for instance, anyone can produce as much U235 in his workshop as he may think he needs through the transmutation of his garbage. To be safe, you might want to hop in your star ship and put distance between you and the rest of civilization.

    • MasterBlaster7

      Nah. Unless the transmutation properties are greatly enhanced, only trace elements are transmuted relative to the mass of the core. So you would need a huge facility, like hanford, to produces enough 235 for a small nuke. You would also probably have to step, 1 up, through the periodic table to get to 235…you would need a ton of thorium and then step up to Protactinium….reducing at something like 99.9% at each step. Maybe someone like Mitsubishi heavy industries could do it…but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Also LENR might be a good source to produce tritium….don’t tell North Korea.

      I think something scarier could be lurking. If the EMdrive or Qdrive Cane drive or other related drives…work…then you have the problem of a relativistic kinetic energy weapon. AA…I bet you are good at math….what would be the effect of a 1 ton depleted uranium slug hitting the earth at 98% the speed of light?

      • Andreas Moraitis

        The relativistic kinetic energy of 1000 kg mass (regardless of the material) at 0.98c would come to 3.618*10^20 J:

        That’s the equivalent of 86.57 billion tons of TNT. Please, give us due warning before you start your experiment…

        • MasterBlaster7

          So….an 87 Teraton weapon. That is 1,740 Tzarbomba’s. From something about the size of a solid metal trash can.

          The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was supposed to be about 10 Teratons.

          Pakistan keeps the president up at night…THIS keeps me up at night. haha

          • Andreas Moraitis

            Actually, it’s ‘only’ 87 gigatons. So the dinosaurs among us can be relieved.

            • MasterBlaster7

              ah yah…thats right..giga not tera………still

      • Axil Axil

        Did you know that LENR prefers to effect even Z isotopes, U232 and U238 for example. In general, LENR transmutes even isotopes faster than odd isotopes. This leaves the odd isotopes enriched.

        A LENR experiment showed that LENR will reduce the half life of U232 for 86 years to 6 microseconds. Do you understand the concern here?

        • MasterBlaster7

          So….you can make weapons grade 90%+ U235 and Pu239 fairly rapidly and without a centrifuge? If so that is concerning.

          Hmmm and I guess add that to the tritium production.

    • friendlyprogrammer

      If we become that advanced then maybe a more stable atom could be split.

  • Len Fusioneer

    What need is there for roads? OMG, please don’t take my annual cross country motorcycle trips away. Even if the engine is quieter