Solid State LENR Generator (Axil Axil)

The following post was submitted by Axil Axil

I would like to now get something on the open source record and protect the concept from patent trolls and  proprietary non disclosure. This concept is formulated to eliminate the complexity and control  problem that has been seen in the alumina tube based LENR experiments conducted by Rossi, MFMP and the Russians.

With the application of the combined talents of a select group of design engineers, it seems possible to design a self charging high effectuate lithium ion battery that can capture and transform its heat energy directly into electricity.

If a tube based reactor as we have seen demonstrated by Lugano replicators is configured in a thermal heat transfer loop to distribute hot between a hot end and a cold end, a cross flow of lithium vapor ions going down the tube in the hot to cold direction and a controlled counter flow of lithium aluminum liquid metal (melting point = 500c to 600C) travailing back to the hot end from the cold end.

Electric energy could be extracted  from the flow of both lithium vapor ions and ionized hydrogen nano-particles on there way from the hot end of the tube were the LENR reaction is occurring to the cold end where the tube is being cooled in a co-generation process  by properly configured electrodes in the flow path used to confine and direct the movement of the ionized vapor. A electrode target may also be required at the cold end of the tube to completely deionize the lithium/hydrogen plasma.

On the way back, electric energy could also be extracted from the flow of liquid metal returning from the cold end of the tube to the hot end using   Magnetohydrodynamic generation(MHD).

Magnetohydrodynamic generator

An MHD generator, like a conventional generator, relies on moving a conductor through a magnetic field to generate electric current. The MHD generator uses hot conductive plasma or a flow of liquid metal as the moving conductor. The mechanical dynamo, in contrast, uses the motion of mechanical devices to accomplish this.

In principle, any electrical conducting fluid can be used as the working fluid, and power generation has been demonstrated with a number of such fluids, varying from liquid metals to hot ionized gases.

The absence of moving machinery allows the MHD generator to operate at much higher temperatures than other power generation systems and, therefore, higher thermodynamic efficiency can be reached.

A key component of the MHD generator is the superconducting magnet, which produces the magnetic field necessary for the energy conversion process.  If we get lucky, the LENR process itself may create a degree of superconductivity in the magnetic coils of a elector-magnet as has been seen in LENR reaction wires in the LENR experiments of Celanti.

Efficiency greater than 65 – 70 % can be reached if a triple cycle, including an MHD generator, ion plasma to electricity conversion electrodes, and a CO2 turbine, is utilized.  Such a configuration could fit well into a transportation power source.

The electricity produced by the moment of electrically conductive plasma and liquids could be used to produce a self sustaining LENR reaction when of portion of that MHD generated power is fed back into a pumped stimulation of the LENR reaction at the hot end of the tube.

Axil Axil

Cross posted on EGO OUT

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Another thought: Tadahiko Mizuno got LENRs to take place in ceramic proton conductors with deuterium. I wonder what would happen if deuterium was used in the JTEC instead of protium. The thing is that if a LENR took place in the cold sink as well as the hot end it wouldn’t work as an engine but it would be a simple thing to try.

  • builditnow

    Thanks for posting your ideas. Here is another one.

    Utilizing solar panel technology and LENR.
    If the experimental evidence that there are energetic photons emitted inside the reactor (soft gamma?), not energetic enough to exit the reactor, then it may be possible to create a nano LENR active layer on the surface of a suitably designed solar cell for direct electrical energy creation.
    Some way to control the reaction speed and you have the potential for a direct battery replacement for cell phone, computers etc. This could require understanding LENR much more completely and probably quite an R&D effort. The motivation to achieve this could be huge, once the public wakes up. I still hear the snoring however.

  • Curbina

    Yes Toussaint, I have read Dr. Petit since 2004. MHD is indeed interesting and mostly outside of the civilian eye. I recommend strongly to download and read the divulgative comic “The Barrier of Silence”. Energy density is key for MHD flight.

  • Gerard McEk

    Axil, how are the hydrogen and lithium vapor particles being ionised? Is that due to a LENR reaction?

    • Axil Axil

      That is an excellent question.

      The stuff that causes the LENR reaction in the E cat is polariton solitons. These EMF vortexes are built up over time by the transfer of nuclear binding energy that is produced by the LENR reaction. These solitons get more energetic over time. Their energy level starts in the infrared range when they are first created and then increase in energy into the soft X-ray range.

      As witnessed in the experiments of DGT, these magnetic vortexes explode in a Bosenova. The soliton releases all the x-ray level photons that have accumulated in the soliton from their entangled electrons. It is like what happens in sonoluminescence when the cavitation bubble explodes.These x-rays will ionize to some level any atoms in the neightborhode of the Bosenova.

      In the early experiments by Randle Mills, he saw x-rays produced in the 10 mm wavelength range. This black light inspired the name of his company.

      Of interest, there is a 400% excess of extreme ultraviolet radiation in space that cannot be explained through the action of luminous objects like stars and black holes. Mills says that this excess is generated because of hydrinos in space. He is right it some level. The reason for this excess is the ubiquitous production of polariton solitons in space dust.

      I also think that these solitons are what is called dark matter. The Higgs mechanism gives these solitons (aka magnetic monopoles) very large mass while they exist.

      • Andreas Moraitis

        Where does the excess energy come from, according to this (not Mills’) model? How can it be calculated?

        • Axil Axil

          The energy come from nuclear binding energy. The famous example is how the fusion of a proton and nickel will produce 6MeV of nuclear binding energy. This comes from Piantelli who showed a 6MeV proton coming out of a nickel rod in a cloud chamber, a result of He2 and nickel fusion.
          There is the PP fusion case.

          In the DGT transmutation tests, lots of light elements were produced: lithium beryllium and boron. This is produced by PP fusion.
          LENR (anapole magnetic beam) screens both the strong and weak force momentarily so that subatomic particles regroup to form a new element with a combined lower energy state. This produces excess binding energy when the fusion occurs.
          Because of the law of conservation of energy and decoherence in quantum mechanics, transmutation only occurs when a lower energy state of the nuclear reaction results.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            I’ve overlooked that you mentioned nuclear binding energy, sorry. I was somewhat confused about the hydrinos that you brought into play, since the Lugano results can hardly be explained by hydrino reactions (provided that the numbers are correct).

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Wow, look at this. Beta-alumina is a fast ion conductor (Na+, K+, Li+, Ag+, H+, Pb2+, Sr2+ or Ba2+). If this isomorphic form of alumina is used in the Hot-Cat instead of plain alumina maybe what I think you’re talking about could be done.
    Or if beta-alumina is used in the Hot-Cat maybe it could be made into a JTEC/Hot-Cat hybrid.
    See comments on Lonnie Johnson’s JTEC.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Maybe use aluminum hydride, AlH3 instead of lithium aluminum hydride, LiAlH4 in this JTEC/Hot-Cat hybrid. So the lithium won’t migrate.

    • Axil Axil

      JTEC is a good idea for the conversion of low grade heat to electricity. JTEC would replace the electric turbine in my approach. JTEC looks like it is lighter in weight than a turbine which is desirable.

      The ideal is to convert all the various forms of power generated by the Hot Cat at the highest possible conversion efficiency. These forms include ion, liquid metal movement, RF, heat, light, magnetic, and electrostatic with compatible electrical conversion technologies at the highest efficiently as possible so that the COP of the Hot cat is maximized and its structure is minimized. Waste not want not.

      All the EMF conversion technologies have very high electric conversion efficiencies with minimized additional structure.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Maybe this would make the E-Fan electric aircraft that Alain mentioned practical. (see comments)

        • US_Citizen71

          It is probably more efficient to put the reactors inside a retrofitted turbojet than separated from the engine like an E-Fan would be. Or maybe locate the reactor behind the E-Fan in the airflow as the heat that isn’t converted to electricity could still heat air and increase thrust. Depending on COP and efficiency you could put both E-Fans and converted turbojets on an aircraft with power from the turbojets powering the E-Fans. It just depends on the available electrical power. Something like the JTEC running at 60% or so efficiency is going to be needed before LENR is useful for flight in my opinion.

    • Obvious

      This is a critical part of the reaction, IMO. Understanding solid state electrolytes will help unravel some of the mystery. Isotopes of “good” ions can have different conductivity coefficients. This not only makes an isotope separation membrane at lower power lvels and atomic excitation, but possibly preferentially matches a pair of isotopes that will, in the right conditions, pass a neutron from an neutron heavy to a neutron light ion so that both ions can flow through the membrane easily, reducing the electrical pressure build up “behind” them.

  • Curbina

    Axil, MHD generators are mentioned by name in the list of energy technologies that can be deemed secret by the “Secrecy of Inventions act”. Just so you know.

    • Axil Axil

      If it is secret, why does wiki have an entry for it? Did you see all the multi national developments in section 3 of the Wiki link for MHD? What makes this subject a secret? I can not access your link. Do you have a more accessible link?

      • Curbina

        MHD is not secret per se Axil, but it can be subject to be declared secret when a patent is filed for this kind of technology. The secrecy of inventions act creates this possibility, and the only known list of general inventions that are included as potentially deemable secrete (a list which was obtained via Freedom of Information Act) is fro, 1971, and the current list has not been obtained even through the FOIA.

        The list includes “Power Supply” as follows:

        • Curbina

          The FAS link I provided is the only link that I have, is from the Federation of American Scientists blog, an article that is concerned on the absolute lack of civilian oversight of the Secrecy of Inventions Act.

          • Axil Axil

            Thanks I finally got through to your reference. I wonder if Rossi knows about these obscure regulatory obstacles that he may face. Someone should tell him about it so he can relocate: Canada?

            • Curbina

              Canada, UK and the European community have similar legislations. There is a list for the UK which is known, and similar to the US one. There’s a list in Canada, but is secret and has not been released after several attempts. In the case of France and Germany, all inventions are reviewed by the defense ministery and the secrecy is decided in each case. I think that Rossi and IH are aware of this potential problem (after all, his first customers were related to the military). I think the E-cat as is now can avoid secrecy but coupling it to MHD could create the loophole to make it possible of supression. Also miniaturization of the e-cat to power anything could be deemed a secret invention. Military don’t want to hinder the development of technology, but they want to keep the leading edge stuff off the hands from anyone that could use it against their country.

              • Eyedoc

                or their monopolistic companies? Wow…I don’t know about you, but I sure am glad our governments and scientists protect us from ourselves so very well……..Should I laugh maniacally, or cry hysterically ?

                • Curbina

                  Well Eyedoc, I think that protecting economic interests is also behind these secrecy of inventions regulations, but the “official” argument behind them is “national security”. I try to not sound as a Conspiracy Theorist, but is not easy talking about these issues.

        • Ophelia Rump

          You can only make something a secret if it is not already widely known.
          Before you patent, publicize and avoid the crypt.

          Sharing with China does the trick nicely.

          • Axil Axil

            Do you mean to say that open source invention cannot be regulated?

            • Curbina

              Open Source cannot be deemed secret under the secrecy of inventions act. It can be regulated by other means, tho.

    • Eyedoc

      But of course 🙂