“We’re at the Tipping Point” (Brian Westenhaus)

Brian Westenhaus has written an article providing his assessment of the current situation with LENR/E-Cat technology which is published both at New Energy and Fuel and Oilprice.

His overall stance is very bullish, especially given the replication efforts of Alexander Parkhomov, MFMP and others. Westenhaus says that positive results from Parkhomov, coupled with the Lugano report of E-Cat testing bode well for the claims of Rossi, and shed much doubt on what the critics have been saying over the years about the E-Cat being a scam.

He writes:

“These scientists who engage in demoralizing, dismissive and character assassination and destruction have done far more harm than any collection of ‘scammers’ anyone might choose to propose. It’s a huge embarrassment that’s been tolerated for far too long.

[…]

“We’re at the tipping point. Four years ago Mr. Rossi was quite hard to believe. Now the flip looks to be underway. Now its very hard to believe any skeptics.”

I’m not sure if there will be a single ‘tipping point’ moment that will convince everyone all at once — I suppose each of us has our own tipping points which come at different times.

From my own perspective I’ve had very little reason not to believe Rossi from the very beginnings of the story. I think the evidence provided by Focardi, Levi, Kullander and Essen among others in early 2011 gave Rossi’s claims lots of credibility — and over the years the evidence has become even stronger. Successful replications of the ‘Rossi Effect’ will only serve to bolster his claims even more.

  • Warthog

    “…and that LENR is not anywhere near as toxic for someone aspiring to a career in Physics as it was before.”

    One can only hope that such proves to be the case, but I don’t see all that much evidence of it. Certainly those HEP’s that currently control the levers of power in various federal scientific agencies (DOE and such) and science publications (Nature, Science, etc) don’t seem to have moved at all.

    But with your clarifying comments, I’ll move you out of the category of “pathological skeptic” to “rational skeptic” (which is what any TRUE scientist should be).

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Okay .. I did. I don’t understand what was said, but i hope its Pro LENR.. lol

  • bkrharold

    At this point, nobody really knows the source of the anomalous heat, neither Rossi or anyone else. Many different researchers will have to explore the phenomenon, methodically testing different theories. Eventually when the overwhelming majority agree, a consensus will be reached, and that theory will be accepted. This process might take years. This is the work that should have started in 1989. America has been cheated by the science establishment, the fossil fuel industry, and our government.

    • bachcole

      And who, how, when, where, and why did the fossil fuel industry quash LENR? I see the science establishment fouling up. I see no evidence whatsoever that the fossil fuel industry had anything to do with it. They still might try to do so, but so far I see them more as a deer in the headlights.

      Originally, Cornelius Vanderbilt was into shipping. That is what made him seriously rich. When it became obvious to him that railroads were a better investment, he switched all of his assets to railroads, selling all of his shipping assets. Rich people are not stupid, and they don’t always retard progress. Sometimes they promote it. Edison’s light bulb was going no where until J.P. Morgan walked into his lab and asked him if he could help.

  • georgehants

    Roger, your comment is unanswerable as it has no logical connection to my comment.
    It is just a unscientific ramble with no meaning.
    It is just your strange way of thinking running amok with your opinions. that has no scientific validity, just personal rambling.
    If you wish to converse about subjects please try and stick to them
    without letting your strange imagination run away with you.
    Thank you..

  • georgehants

    Roger, your comment is unanswerable as it has no connection to my last or first comment.
    It is just your strange way of thinking running amok with your opinions.
    If you wish to converse about subjects please try and stick to them subjects without letting your strange imagination run away with you.
    Thank you.

  • BroKeeper

    CRACK! The skeptics, PTBs, and paradigm-stuck physicists are about to get soaked by the waters gushing out of denier’s dam faults weakened by the protectorates of scientific truth. It’s difficult for them to speak when running for cover.

    This is a great article reported in valued ‘New Energy and Fuel’ and ‘OilPrice.com’ sites viewed by the energy industries. It has past the “tipping point” and the slopes are becoming much steeper thanks to you, Brian.

  • BroKeeper

    “For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal” also, “He upholds the universe by the word of his power.” Stick that into secular scientist’s black hole, matter, energy quantum theoretical equations. Oh, forgive me; it has not been experimentally proven yet – how stupid of me.

  • georgehants

    Roger, I am stating Facts in my comment, you are giving “opinions” if you know that all these people have an IQ higher than yours then fine, but IQ has no bearing on my comment and clearly has no connection with if somebody is a half-wit.
    People who think their “opinion” become Facts are certainly half-wits.

  • Job001

    It is no betrayal of science to redact critical data that would reveal non-patented or not easily protected methods. Alternate explanations exist.

  • Eyedoc

    Can we agree on “egotistical pri*ks”

    • georgehants

      Eyedoc, Ha yes, Roger would go on splitting hairs until the cows come home.

  • Job001

    Doubt begets Knowledge
    Funding fear willful blindness
    Blindness begets ignorance

    Thanks, obviously I don’t “get” it yet…

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Here’s a good starting point Wonderboy.

    The Rise and Decline of Cold Fusion (15 March 1990) See page 8.

    “…was surprised to find that in Northern Europe and the USA area 1(the major labs and the North-East) the results were almost all negative whereas in Eastern and Southern Europe, Asia, Latin America and USA area 2 (the rest of the USA) the results were almost entirely positive….”
    http://cds.cern.ch/record/206479/files/cer-000118282.pdf
    We’ll have to keep this in mind when it’s time to rerank the world’s institutions.

  • Warthog

    Then you haven’t been paying much attention since 1989, P & F’s honesty has been castigated virtually unanimously by the high-energy physics community. Charlatans, frauds, incompetents, and more and more, much of it not politely printable. As have been those who have continued to work in the area.

    According to the HEP’s, any and all experimentation showing excess heat is simply due to “errors in measurement”.

    And not one single CF researcher has ever said anything about a “process replicating the sun”. P & F’s terminology was “an unknown nuclear process”.

    And the HEP’s have also been total in their resistance to even READING the published papers. Jed Rothwell attempted to pass on paper copies of PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH to one physicist, who simply let it fall on the floor rather than look at it.

    Disgusting!

  • georgehants

    Roger you are very strange, you are describing incompetent half-wits.

  • pg

    Wladimir, take it easy mate

    • georgehants

      It is clear that Wladimir is making very fair scientific points that Mr. Rossi will need to address to justify his behaviour if the report is completely accurate.
      Nobody can walk away from Evidence that does not conform to their beliefs.
      It is this kind of unscientific behaviour that has led to the 26 year delay of Cold Fusion.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Maybe. I posted this before but it might be worth posting it again here:

        Dayton Miller shook up the physics establishment in the 1920s with his interferometer that was three times more sensitive than the one used in the famous Michelson-Morley experiment of 1887.
        “I believe that I have really found the relationship between gravitation and electricity, assuming that the Miller experiments are based on a fundamental error. Otherwise, the whole relativity theory collapses like a house of cards.”
        — Albert Einstein
        http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm

        • Alan DeAngelis

          PS
          E=MC^2 Without Relativity (Andrew Gould)
          http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0504486.pdf

          • Alan DeAngelis

            PPS
            The Non-existence of Black Holes and the Failure of General Relativity.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jINHHXaPrWA

            • Job001

              Thanks, that is fun!

              This is further confirmation of my theory that modern physics has a philosophy problem that involves core assumptions and bad models.

              Half of the physics community talks about things they can never test or observe like the bubble universe nonsense or the assumption of constant speed of light everywhere(what about where more unproven dark matter exists?).

              My confidence in the average physics professional ebbs to somewhat above our lawyers politicians.

              • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

                I remember some LENR scientist moaning on the focus of most LENr scientists on theory, abandoning interest for experimental discussions. Recent Pakhomov discussion is refreshing.

                some other was moaning that in theory discussions, mostly it is hypothetical mathematically defined nuclear events, matching a small set of experimental results, ignoring the less sexy dirty chemical environments, and the very varied experimental catalog…

                there is a problem in scienc, especially physics , especially physics theory :
                – too much theory
                – too much math
                – too much models
                – too much computers

        • georgehants

          Is not science exciting and Wonderful when done correctly with open-minds that allow for any throw of the dice to happen, even a double seven. 🙂

      • Omega Z

        George, This has gone on for quite sometime on JONP. Wlad has promoted his work as explaining The Rossi effect more or less. There have also been others who propose ideas that would imply that the Rossi effect steps outside the bounds of the laws of physics.

        Rossi has steadfastly said that the Rossi effect doesn’t. That it merely requires a deeper understanding of the existing laws. Does Rossi know this for a fact or not. It doesn’t matter. You wouldn’t want to say so even if it did & you new it. That would just make his task of getting it to market that much harder. Let the academics fight it out latter. Rossi already has a long hill to climb. Most of us don’t really care as long as it works.

        • georgehants

          Omega Z, what most think does not concern me only open honest science.
          Mr. Rossi made a statement and it is for him or any other scientist in the same position to be willing to look and debate the Evidence or theory.
          Mr Rossi’s only alternative is to state that he does not know and retract the statements he has made concerning Wladimir’s Evidence.
          How long it takes to find the Truth is also irrelevant

          There debate is not about the “Rossi effect” but the quantum and relativistic reality.
          We are all academics when it comes to the Truth.
          Best wishes.
          G

  • Job001

    Tis the nature of knowledge to coexist with ignorance, doubt and uncertainty. The greatest ignorance is by those who will not see the evidence, observations, data, reports;Typically due to neurological biases, including funding, fear, and laziness.

  • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

    it is ight that preventing any mistake in science, in politics, in business, in medicine, is in fact very costly, and it block creativity, innovation, and thus massive improvement of life.

    the problem is that however some of those mistakes spread but become viral if not consensus. this should be stopped however.

    what we should enforce is that what is judged ridicule, stay localized and harmless until it is validated.
    pseudo-medecines, conspiracy theories, Luddites fear, should not became mainstream, taught to all the school, forced by law, implemented by FCC…

    however the question is who will judge it is ridiculous or mainstream…
    finally why not let some freedom, yet prevent some group to catch a monopoly on the viral vectors like TV, internet… allow competition in ideas, like on trade…

    more freedom, except the freedom to prevent others to be free.

  • Valeriy Tarasov

    It is time for paradigm change in current physics. Academic physicists know very good physics textbooks. In these textbooks LENR is not possible, and this is why the bases of current theories should be revised, but this is very scary for them even if they realise this long time ago.

    • Agaricus

      These people have invested many years mastering the content in the textbooks, constructing a world view based on this, and perhaps elaborating the model through their own research contributions. They have come to feel secure in their ‘correctness’.

      Now along comes a phenomenon that if confirmed will prove beyond doubt that what they think they know is incorrect or at best, incomplete, and the solid ground they thought they stood on turns to quicksand. Their lifetime investment is threatened, much of their ‘knowledge’ could actually become irrelevant, and their personal standing might collapse overnight. Even Rossi seems to demonstrate this failing.

      I suppose it is not really surprising that many react more like a tribe of monkeys than the superior humans they may feel themselves to be. MIT’s ‘Death of cold fusion party’ was actually about a sense of relief that the status quo ante was restored by removal of a ‘threat’. So much for objective science.

    • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

      reading well those textbopk, you see that LENR is in the “material science” section, in a future chapter.

      it is not in the particle physics section, not in plasma physics, nor fission physics…

      that LENR is impossible is a myth. it is just not yet predicted because material science and it’s collective effects allow too many things to exist.

      it is just an ego wound for physicist who did not predict or understand it.

      • Valeriy Tarasov

        I don’t agree. IMHO LENR requires first of all the changes
        in the definition of electrical charge, and therefor a lot of ground breaking changes
        in the particle physics section, as well as in physics of nucleus formation and the nuclei
        fission processes.

  • GreenWin

    In an article published today in the Russian “Sputnikzemli” (artificial satellite) Alexander Parkhomov comments on the future implications of LENR and the E-Cat. I have translated from the Google xlation as best I can:

    “…According to Alexander Parkhomov LENR technology has fantastic commercial prospects. Resources of nickel and hydrogen (the main fuel for the Rossi reactor) are practically inexhaustible. Thus, oil, gas and nuclear power will be relegated to the past. As will unnecessary costly and resource-intensive power lines, power plants. and external heat sources. All these [forms of] energy you can get from a [LENR] home generator. This will entail malopredskazuemy consequences in politics, economics, finance and social life.” http://bit.ly/1CnUqtP

    The word “malopredskazuemy” does not translate in Google. Perhaps our Russian speakers will translate this interesting word I assume to mean “disruptive.”

    • Ted-X

      Malopredskazuemy means “difficult to predict”.

    • Mytakeis

      would say Malopredskazeumy meaning ‘preliminary’

  • Billy Jackson

    I think the tipping point was the fuel/ash composition. Of all the information released this was suddenly something people could physically work with. outside of claims of sleight of hand this single aspect has done more to advanced LENR and Rossi’s case than the past 3 years of reports and unconfirmed claims.

  • mcloki

    This is going to make a fabulous PBS NOVA special.

  • Warthog

    I think you have to distinguish between the LENR+ (Rossi) and LENR (Pons and Fleischmann) subsets of cold fusion.

    There has been more than sufficient evidence for LENR to be considered “acceptable science” for at least a decade, and probably longer.

  • georgehants

    OilPrice.com
    Andrea Rossi Vindicated? Cold Fusion Takes Another Step Towards Credibility
    http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Andrea-Rossi-Vindicated-Cold-Fusion-Takes-Another-Step-Towards-Credibility.html

  • georgehants

    Would it be fair to ask again where Cold Fusion would be today if establishment science was doing it’s job and had thousands of researchers investigating and probing Cold Fusion.
    The few Heroes who have followed scientific principles and with open-minds come as far as they have, Mr Rossi being a leading light, make main-line science look like incompetent half-wits.
    What do scientists witnessing this farce of comical proportions think of the leadership of their profession?
    Does the average scientist care?
    ——–
    Link below to just another of the many scientific failures.
    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/trip-treatment

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Oh George, why can’t we just gloss over the fact that they set LENR back a quarter of a century and wait with bated breath for their next pronouncement?

      • georgehants

        Because the same thing that delayed Cold Fusion is happening in many other scientific areas.
        Do you not agree that needs to change and science to become free and honest and competent with all of science.
        Expert “opinion” that is taken as Fact is not science but religious crap that destroys every scientific principle.
        Arrogant science needs to start using the words, we don’t know, we will try and find the True answer.
        Could I ask you, are UFO’s a genuine unknown phenomenon that could be important to us all and need full Research, or not?
        Best

        • Alan DeAngelis

          Yes you’re exactly right. Here’s another great discovery that academia is trying their best to ignore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0BIqfzpvo

          • georgehants

            Many thanks Alan, so many Wonders out there to investigate when science grows-up, one day future scientists will look back in sad amazement at how today’s science has wasted time, money and lives in the confused enviroment they have created of Dogma, corruption, ego worship, denial etc etc.
            Hopefully the Cold Fusion mess will wake a few people up to start creating a sane World for everybody.

  • Job001

    No one said it would be easy, thousands of research reports, going from low yield electrolytic liquid phase to high yield nano-particle gas phase with electrical and heat stimulation, providing fail safe engineering and control, then the necessity of releasing sufficient data for independent professional replication.

    Now multiple replications of excellent, good, or with slight method variation. LENR has “heat with ash”, the causal basis for the Manhattan project. Next is just plain old science, engineering, certification, patent struggles, and market economics. LENR is finally real acceptable science.