Your 2015 LENR Predictions

I was expecting for the holiday season this year to be rather quiet on the LENR front.

With the Lugano test report published and Andrea Rossi in a quiet period regarding the development of the E-Cat, it is likely we won’t get much significant news about Industrial Heat’s activities for quite some time. Rossi has mentioned a year-long run of his 1 MW Plant for testing purposes, which could conceivably take us into 2016 before the plant is revealed to the public.

However, there has been a surprising amount of activity in the waning days of the year. Since Christmas day we have learned about the MFMP’s invitation to visit Prof. Francesco Piantelli in Italy for an intensive period of study; the report of Prof. Alexander Parkhomov’s Hot Cat experiment has been published, and the first MFMP Dog Bone live open science experiment has been carried out.

So with 2014 ending on a bang, I thought I’d put up a thread for readers here to post their predictions for 2015. What do you expect to see in the world of LENR this year — and where might we be at this time next year?

Happy New Year to all ECW readers. Thanks for your interest, participation and all your support!

  • EEStorFanFibb

    products made by what company?

    • Paul Maher

      I’m sorry butI am not at liberty to say anything beyond that which I have said. Paul

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      • EEStorFanFibb

        For someone who wants to keep secrets it seems strange that you just blasted your email addy out to perhaps 100s of people.

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          I guess I should get straight with you, I am not a physicist, just a reporter of what I have seen posted online.  What technical experience I have all relates to me having been a radar technician in the USAF, and a following career in the Military Microwave Electronics Industry as a technician and later as a Vendor Quality Assurance Rep. for Lockheed.
          All that I really want to see is Dr. Joseph Zawodnys Mantra, “Drain The Swamps, And Flood The Fields” bear fruit.
          This product could be coming from any number of directions.  You all know the names of the possible companies.Who knows, it could be a ZPE machine from NASA!! May The Weak Force Be With Us ALL,Paul D. Maherwww.coldfusionnow.org From: Disqus
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  • ecatworld

    What kind of product are you referring to, Paul?

    Thanks!

    • Paul Maher

      I do not know, my source could not and did not share the particulars.  But whatever and whoever it is I’d love to be on their sales force. Paul
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  • Kevin O

    My prediction is that Rossi will challenge the USPTO rejection of his patent by using the TIP reports. The Patent office will still reject his claim. He and IH will put up a big stink in the press, rope in a few congresscritters and other influencers. But he won’t be able to get the USPTO to bend until 2016 when he will be forced to give public demos for the patent examiners with fraudbusters like James Randi invited to have a look. Up until now, his demos were for attracting investors. For 2015 it will be to a higher standard for the USPTO. It is possible that someone else like Brullion will beat him to the punch.

    I also predict that MFMP replication results will not be accepted by mainstream science until they go back to their gamma ray results.
    http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/11/07/mfmp-report-detection-of-unusual-gamma-rays/

  • http://www.lenrnews.eu/lenr-summary-for-policy-makers/ AlainCo

    I follow the vision of Kuhn and Feyerabend, and the one of our sad experiences with 25 years of replications and a long list of more or less independent test.

    there cannot be any replication.

    any replication will be judged as a fraud, an error, an artifact, a non scientific test, a non replication, an unknown result. I invent nothing, this is just what I currently hear about TPR1/2 and Parkhjomov and alike…

    this is hopeless. the skeptics, which include academic authorities, media, scientific media, will NEVER acknowledge LENR without an authority which quive the imprimatur. POINT !

    since they are the authority that can give the imprimatur on the scientific side, it is hopeless.

    the solution is if the imprimatur came from big money from non state, non academic, non consensual, science…. it means evil market making dirty money.

  • Gerrit

    My prediction for 2015 is that the interest in LENR will continue to increase. 🙂

    Apart from a possible Bill Gates LENR announcement, I do not think that we will see a huge “eureka” news brouhaha. We have seen several quality news outlets cover the LENR topic fairly in 2014 and this trend will continue in 2015. Less crappy articles, more valuable articles.

    Industrial Heat will, by the end of 2015, inform us that the 1MW plant has been running for many months without issues, that the undisclosed customer is satisfied but will remain undisclosed and they will not substantiate these claim. No 1MW plant visits in 2015.

    The science world is already aware of LENR and, mostly passively, following the story.

    The two main events could be if MFMP succeeds in replication and if Bill Gates announces funding.

  • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

    Clovis, seems your avatar has changed? Wasn’t it the ECat World Cold Fusion Tee logo before?

    • clovis ray

      nope, i’v had it for years, on this and other forums. close but no cigar, smile.

  • Albert D. Kallal

    Until a working product is delivered, then I think we will continue to see a “steady” increase in awareness. The last 6 months has been really good and kind for LENR

    I think one of the “most” important events was the 60 minutes piece “cold fusion is hot again”. There really not much “more” one can ask for then that video. That video spared interest in LENR likely more then any event of the past 5 years. (in fact quite sure it sparked Beryllium into action). That video is now 5 years old?

    The third party report was great, but until a credible industrial company starts delivering products, then LENR will continue its “current” steady progress.

    The largest “spark” on this cold fire so to speak?

    The MMFP project if successful in next few months also will spur HUGE interest. Assuming MMFP project replicates excess heat, this means LENR is EASY to achieve. This result would thus spur interests and replications around the world by universities and hobbyists. As examples of replications flourish then the beaten up door of resistance will become so weak and will collapse and fall down in a SPECTACULAR way.

    The science community will thus with egg on their face not only will accept LENR, but be tasked to explain how LENR works.

    So success via MMFP will do MORE to spur LENR between the time that the “turtles” and “rabbits” in this race get a product out the door. And failure of MMFP to produce heat of course will do the reverse!

    So if MMFP succeeds, then replications will follow. Note that the “key” concept here is not that MMFP achieves success, but the resulting replications are going to be the knockout punch we all been waiting for.

    Regards,
    Albert D. Kallal
    Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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  • tlp

    Mills Sun Cell is getting ready soon:
    Randy Mills today: “I don’t see any show stoppers with all components invented and working”

    • BroKeeper

      I hope so this time.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    The people who slandered cold fusion/LENR for a quarter of a century will rename it and will claim credit for it as a new discovery of their own (and get funding for it).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgV7fNO-2k 26:15

    • Alan DeAngelis

      pardon me. i just wanted to add the link.

      • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

        I had the same result in another thread, wanted to add the link and the picture was posted.

        I fear that you might be right about slanderers changing colours.

        When there will be no more way to crush, insult, ridicule and deny, as the wind turns, they’ll haste to say “I knew it all along, in fact I told you so!” Historical memory and objectivity lost by the gullible public, they will shamelessly be interviewed left and right.

        • artefact

          I think Frank allowed embedding of videos for the composit stream of the first dog bone test.

        • bachcole

          We need to be there WITH evidence to set the record straight.

      • BroKeeper

        It is good to revisit this video periodically. Reminds us like the Phoenix arising out of the ashes to a greater destiny. So will Pons and Fleischmann.

      • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

        ENEA’s Rapporto 41 on CF by Giuliano Preparata, Emilio Del Giudice, Antonella DeNinno (http://www.nexusedizioni.it/it/CT/chi-ha-paura-della-fusione-fredda-di-antonella-de-ninno-533b2c0e01a92), Antonio Frattolillo, Antonietta Rizzo (the latter three appear to still be with ENEA), which confirmed the production of 4He and excess heat, was killed and hushed in 2002.
        http://www.rainews.it/ran24/inchieste/19102006_rapporto41.asp.
        Rubbia, left ENEA presidency for Spain in 2005, ousted by the “nominations” (power grabbing appointments) imposed by the Berlusconi government.
        Recently interviewed, Professor Rubbia appears to support shale gas as the energy source of the future http://espresso.repubblica.it/plus/articoli/2014/11/24/news/risorse-energetiche-la-versione-di-carlo-rubbia-1.189020.

  • Pekka Janhunen

    “They must call Press Conference, show some papaers, tests, some demo on podium.” Rossi did that in 2011. Result: AP reporter was there, but never wrote anything. The press didn’t believe because there was no independent confirmation. To address this problem, the TPR1 and TPR2 were done; of course it took time because the schedule was now set by the independents. Rossi cannot speed up what must be independent of him.

    I share your frustration about large energy investments made just to tear them down, but it seems to me that Rossi has done what he can to speed up the process. Now we are only 3 months past TPR2 and the oil price is falling and thereby slowing down energy investments and mitigating the problem you pointed out. (I don’t know if oil price is falling because of TPR2, but it could well be, and anyway the end result is the same.)

    In my opinion, the E-cat device has developed consistently and relatively rapidly over time if one considers the demonstrated/tested devices (not Rossi’s forward-looking statements which predate the actual developments).

  • BroKeeper

    Very interesting predictions of probable scenarios suggesting 2015 will be a year full of anticipation and surprises from many external and internal LENR developments. As mentioned earlier by NT, Frank will be very busy sorting all this out for the readers from expanding global media attention (mostly translated web articles).

    Frank, have you considered hiring assistance for administration, research and moderation to free up your analytical journalistic skills? Maybe you and AlainCo, ‘LENR Forum’ administrator, could consider joining forces complimenting each other’s unique journalistic views; perhaps calling it ‘New Fire’ with a main focus on the E-Cat. Or is my crystal ball having a short circuit?

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    • Mark Szl

      The comment by Abd ulRahman LomaxJanuary 2, 2015 at 11:10 AM is very relevant and sounds disappointingly AGAIN like we have just another experimental error / artifact. Excess power, no LENR. The comment follows:

      ** I will add that 2015 will be a year of disappointments for many LENR hopefuls and followers /”believers.” Skeptics, pathological and not, will be of course delighted.

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      Parkhomov report is based on a single measure. There is accessory data
      reported, basically reactor temperature vs time and radiation vs time,
      but the only data used in COP calculation is input power for three
      periods, which are not accurately specified, and water lost, which is
      reported in multiples of 0.2 Kg, and the first of these periods, the
      loss is 0.2 Kg. The actual weight measurements are not given, nor are
      the measurement times nor how the samples were taken. Parkhomov looked
      very good. However, when it was examined closely — first by that “best
      scientist” and then by me — problems appeared. That scientist framed
      some of these in terms of how the behavior might not resemble other cold
      fusion reports. But there was something much more solid than that, and I
      have not seen that Peter understands it. Contrary to not behaving like
      expectations, the experiment, in the temperature data provided, behaves
      *exactly* as would be expected from no XP. This is strong, and would
      require some very odd coincidences to be consistent with XP. But the
      steam evaporation data shows substantial XP. The scientist then looked
      at that, and it also shows a sign that it’s artifact (I have not
      verified that, beyond the suspiciously linear nature of the COP vs input
      power). At this point, we have what appears to be error, somewhere.
      Experimental fact is experimental fact, but what were the experimental
      facts? When we look at Parkhomov closely, which took me days to
      understand, the missing data becomes obvious. Parkhomov did not actually
      calibrate, in spite of saying that he did. I don’t know all the facts,
      for sure, but what he reports is inconsistent with an actual calibration
      of the experiment. He calibrated something *else,* and the most likely
      error would be lost water that is not evaporated, which will vary
      greatly with exact boiler conditions, and a non-exact calibration will
      not reproduce those conditions.

      Self-sustain should be possible
      with the Parkhomov approach, if the XP is real. But that is *not* the
      first step. The first step would be to actually calibrate Parkhomov, by
      running the exact same conditions as the experiment, as to materials,
      arrangement, etc., with only the LiAlH4 missing from the fuel, and using
      the same input power protocol. Suppose Parkhomov did this and reported
      it. If this calibration showed that not only is water being evaporated
      at such and such a rate, but the reactor is getting much hotter with
      fuel than without, Parkhomov would be *conclusive,* not merely an
      indication. Two independent measures.

      We’d still want to see
      confirmation, but at that point, if I were involved, I’d be planning for
      self-sustain. Very simple, it should be. At worst, with multiple
      reactors, which can be just the “fuel tubes,” a small input power would
      leverage a far, far larger output power. These tubes have very high
      hydrogen pressure in them, but only a small actual quantity, 100 mg of
      hydrogen. One wants to be prepared for container failure, but that’s
      pretty simple. These are not going to produce a huge explosion if they
      run away. Just a small amount of relatively low-velocity shrapnel, if it
      doesn’t just crack and fizzle, and some fire hazard, I presume that the
      released hydrogen would immediately burn at operating temperature when
      it hits the air. It would not explode unless it accumulated in a space
      without burning and was then ignited.

      Parkhomov fuel tubes should
      be very cheap. MFMP should be making them, ASAP. There are assembly
      details so that the resulting ceramic is completely gas-tight, able to
      withstand high pressure. They know that now!

      • SG

        Parkhomov claimed he ran calibration with a dummy, which was within 10% of what was expected without the powder.

  • http://magicmusicandmore.com/ Barry

    I predict MFMP will be highly instrumental in breaking through the barrier of ignorance regarding CF/LENR. They, with the help of Frank’s Ecat World, will surpass the efforts of Industrial Heat. Secrecy and the capitalistic path will slow IH to the point where MFMP will pass them and get a lot of the deserved credit for awakening the world-stage to replicatable Cold Fusion.

  • catfish

    I predict continued verifications of LENR by isolated researchers and small groups.

  • Chris, Italy

    First, they can’t tax me. 😛

    Second, rememner the ancient story about the King commanding the tide not to rise. They say he got himself drowned.

  • f sedei

    In 2015, I hope that NASA, Naval Research and other U.S.military organizations will release honest reports of their involvement and successes with LENR. They have been very quiet.

  • http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/ barty

    I hope to see a successful replication from MFMP by the end of january. If this happens all things following are unpredictable.

    • Sanjeev

      Except you can be certain of one thing, there will be more replications by others once this is done.