New Blacklight Power Video Shows ‘Electricity Generation Test’

Thanks to pelgrim108 for sharing this latest video produced by Blacklight Power. BLP has provided the following description of the video on YouTube

BLP’s Electricity-Generation Test of Automated Ignition System of Auger-Fed H2O-Based Solid Fuel Powder:
A very small quantity of highly conductive H2O-based solid fuel powder was loaded in to a hopper and gravity fed into an auger overhead of rollers electrodes that were electrified with about 5V, 20,000A. The high current flow ignited the gravity fed fuel to produce 0.5 ms pulses of brilliant light-emitting plasma having power and power densities of one million watts and 100 billion watts per liter, respectively. The optical power of the white light having the same temperature as the Sun was converted to electricity using commercial solar cells surrounding the plasma.

The video can be seen at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmjJ3ecn48 (embedding is not authorized)

This video is certainly quite a bit longer than the previous test videos they have published, and certainly more spectacular. According to the description above the system is being fed with about 100 kW of power, but there’s no real way to calculate the amount or power output from the numbers provided. I see various arrays of LEDs on this test system, and also some kind of grid structure which I can’t quite figure out what it is. The whole effect quite chaotic, and I’m not sure if there are any conclusions that once can draw from this, since there’s no data provided — but it’s a quite a change from previous videos they have put out.

  • Christopher

    Wow,all the criticism. Reminds me of how all the “regular” scientists criticize Lenr scintists. And how so many of the people making rather rude jokes about this jump to the defense of someone like Rossi who hasn’t shown much either. Talk about sacrificing one of your own….

  • optiongeek

    A new video posted last night shows the process running much faster and more smoothly. http://vimeo.com/97775042

    • Andreas Moraitis

      They claim an output power of 1 MW. Commercially available photovoltaic modules reach typically a power of 140 W/m^2. If they want to harvest 100 kW from that 1 MW, they would need an area of 714 m^2. That’s about 3.7 tennis courts.

      • menos50

        You have to realize that the power measurement of W/m2 is based on the Sun on Earth standard. The light from the BL equipment is as bright as the Sun , but without the atmosphere to lessen it. Solar panels aren’t that limited , they can produce much more power if the light is concentrated that falls on them.

        • Andreas Moraitis

          Ok, it may be that the nominal power of PV modules does not reflect their maximum capabilities. Beyond that, there is still the problem of efficiency. And we should not forget that there is no continuous output, so that the possible energy yield might be limited. Hopefully, we will see some data in the near future.

  • Omega Z

    US_Citizen71 thinks Mills is a lousy marketeer. Agreed, He should have made it more clear…

    This Demo tells me nothing. Where’s the Numbers.
    Doesn’t make sense. I personally think Mills is a Brilliant Person.
    What’s wroooong with this Picture. Is it just Me. No, My fellow ECW’ers have issue’s with it also.

    This Armchair Pundit has had an epiphany- A sudden and striking realization. :-)
    I Have it All Wrong… This has nothing to do with the Input/Output.

    This Demo- It proves a mechanical feed process “May” be engineered to work. It proves nothing Energy wise. I have No doubt it was Not meant to.

    If I produced this DEMO-(Mills, Are you listening) I would remind the viewer that it is a proof/concept for feeding the pellets. I would also point out that the PV panels & LED lights are also just a proof/concept to harness the output. Nothing More. This because of his other concept for harnessing the energy is not yet a reality.

    “WE” are looking for Energy Input/Output Data. Nothing, I have Nothing-
    Mills is already Beyond that at this point. His Focus is on the Mechanics to put it together. Mills believes he has the power source. Now he needs away to make it a continuous smooth flowing process.

    Perhaps, When Mills has worked out the Feed system, he will provide a Demo with instruments showing the Energy In/Out. But at present, that is Not his intent. Now I understand this Demo for what it is…

  • US_Citizen71

    I continue to give Mills the benefit of the doubt largely do his early defense of Pons & Fleischman, the apparent validation by others of his prototypes and how his mathematical theories seem to explain other areas of physics including quantum theory. However this video is little more than a light show. To be truly convincing a split screen showing power measurements of both in and out going power would be better. I am becoming more and more convinced that Mills is a great theorist and a lousy engineer and marketeer.

  • Allan Shura

    If the capture mechanism is partly the solar panels what is the useable output to the (100000 watts)
    input. The light pulses have to be stored and smoothed with correspondingly rated panels to be useable and add to the hardware. If it was possible to have a 9 inch square working prototype with off the shelf components in a matter of weeks as stated back in January they may have needed an intensive program and have had commit more money to reach the goal than has been done so far.

  • Sanjeev

    How many investors were impressed by a tiny LED show while burning 100kW?
    No points for guessing.

  • Zeddicus Zul Zorander

    Same as the other demo’s. Good for geeks, but doesn’t do a thing for me.

    Still on the fence with BLP (though more skeptical than positive).

    • BroKeeper

      Hope their first customer is greater than Sad Sam’s Fireworks.

  • Zeddicus Zul Zorander

    You wouldn’t need worry about sleeping too. That’s one loud generator…

  • optiongeek

    I think the takeaway from this latest video is how Mills’ team continues to make rapid but incremental progress. Consider all the components required to make this demo: an auger assembly that can deliver the nano-powder fuel, photo-voltaic arrays to capture the light, the ability to regenerate the fuel via hydration. He certainly wouldn’t have time to develop these from scratch so he must be using commercial components (as he has claimed).
    He has indicated that he is working with partner firms, engineering and PV, to deliver components that will make the demo “self-igniting”.

  • pelgrim108

    This is a translated excerpt from an article from 2006 that is an anouncement to a lecture at the Technical University Delft in The Netherlands. The article deals with prof.dr.ir. Gerrit Kroesen visiting Mills his lab and then replicating the procedure to produce hydrinos at his own lab at the Technical University Eindhoven in The Netherlands.
    http://www.delta.tudelft.nl/artikel/energie-uit-het-niets/16255
    ———————–
    “…
    The recipe for Kroesens enigmatic experiment is simple.
    Take a tungsten heating coil. Put it in a cylinder filled with hydrogen, under very low
    pressure of 0,001 atmospheres, also add a few grains of strontium.
    Aply 70 Volts to the heating coil and wait until the tungsten starts glowing at a temperature of over one thousand degrees Celsius.

    Normal physics tells you nothing special will happen. The strontium will evaporate and the molecular hydrogen (H2) will be split into separate H-atoms by collisions with the hot coil.

    However, at his lab Kroesen’s experiment suddenly creates plasma. The temperature of the hydrogen shoots up to hundreds of thousands of degrees, as deducted from the spectrum of light that comes out of the window. It is also emitting high-energy ultraviolet light with a wavelength of 10 to 150 nanometer.

    …”

    • pelgrim108

      Here is a pdf titled
      Waterstof-plasma produceert onverklaarde straling en energie. Het zwarte licht.
      (Hydrogen-plasma produces unexplained radiaton and energy. The black light.)

      http://scienceconsultancy.com/Ernst/Het_zwarte_licht.pdf
      that elaborates some more about Kroesen and his experiment and has nice pictures :-)

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Showing anything is only a courtesy. His worldwide patent application has gone through. By the time the patent is improved enough many of the bugs will be gone from the designs. Mankind has been manipulating electricity and plasma for many years now. I’m sure any design flaws will find simple solutions.

    Note: You say, “this is all that Mills can demonstrate”, yet one visit to their website info and you can find many third party confirmations along with the resume of the validation teams. The video is just a quick proof of concept to those who don’t require real proof, and likely put there for friends/family.

    You said in another link you would not want one in your house. Why not? This device would be smaller and generate much more power, you could air condition your backyard.

    • KD

      Why not?
      Because such working device don’ exist.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Could it be due to nuclear reactions?
    For example:
    H(1) + O(18) > He(4) + N(15) 3.9798 MeV
    H(1) + O(17) > He(4) + N(14) 1.1919 MeV

    • Andreas Moraitis

      According to Mills it’s not a nuclear reaction. Nuclear side effects might be possible, though.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Yes, I know he thinks it’s a chemical reaction (an electron dropping from a higher quantum level to a lower quantum one) but I just can’t believe there’s enough energy in a chemical reaction to account for all the energy he’s claiming. Does he eventually have to replace the water he uses with fresh water in order to get the reaction running again? Perhaps the trace amount of oxygen-18 in natural water is being depleted. Water that is enriched with oxygen-18 is commercially available. Perhaps he could spike his reaction with oxygen-18 water and see what happens.

        • Andreas Moraitis

          The energy yield from hydrino reactions can theoretically be large, albeit usually not as large as in nuclear reactions. It depends on the involved energy levels. Moving from level 1 (ground state of ‘normal’ hydrogen) to level 2 will release about 40.8 eV per atom. That would be 1.09 kWh per gram hydrogen, whereas combustion releases only 39.4 Wh (all numbers without guarantee). And there are 137 levels with increasing differences. Moving from level 1 to level 5 would free already 326.4 eV, and so on. The oxygen might act as a ‘catalyst’, which forces the hydrino to shrink and functions as a ‘middleman’ in the energy transportation.

          • Ophelia Rump

            Would you have to first charge the hydrogen with enough energy to bring it up the ladder of 137 energy levels?

            • Andreas Moraitis

              As far as I understood it, 137 (or better 1/137) is the lowest possible level, where the electron orbits very closely around the proton. 1 (or 1/1) is the ground state of a hydrogen atom according to traditional models. In this state, the atom contains still more energy than at the lower, fractional levels. To get from a higher to a lower level, the atom must collide with an atom of the catalyst. You will need anyway some kinetic energy for this collision, but the energy gain from the reaction should theoretically be higher. A good question is if you could reverse this process by ‘pulling’ the electron away from the proton.

  • Andrew

    My curiosity lingers about blacklight power and I withhold any judgment on their claims until some actual data comes forth, until we have something more concrete all blacklight power has are claims.

  • Andreas Moraitis

    It is correct that the
    COP has to be calculated on the basis of energy, not of power. But if input and
    output occur for the same amount of time, power can be used as well. Of course
    it is possible that the output lasts somewhat longer than the input – in this
    case, the COP would be correspondingly higher. My first impression from the
    video was that input and output happened more or less synchronously.

  • jonnyb

    I forgot to say don’t confuse Watts power and Watts energy, If the LEDs light coincides with current draw, then it will still be 100kW of power for 5ms to produce the light for just 5ms, so not much output. Makes little odds, you need to average both sides, not just the power in, then you will probably get back to Andreas M COP of 0.0002 or less. We also don’t know the average P.W.M. repetition etc. or whatever of the the system, it seems a bit random. Need proper measurements input/output just to start with. Then they can take it forward, not just a few LEDs with no measurements.

  • jonnyb

    It says 5ms of brilliant light, not 5ms of current drawn, so you’re guessing as am I. So with information produced like this it is pointless, as I said impressive, no not really, is is very, very poor. Even at 50W or 100kW it is still very, very poor. Sorry as I hate to be negative but this is just a joke, maybe Mills is having a laugh before he unleashes a truly wonderful machine?

  • Gerard McEk

    It shows that Mills is slowly improving his welding apparatus. Not more, not less. I am waiting for a verified proof that excess energy is being produced not some kind of village fair light show.

    • Anon2012_2014

      It shows that Mills is slowly improving his welding apparatus.

      LOL

  • jonnyb

    It depends if it only draws current during a flash (does it need continuous current, resulting in a 5ms flash ), and if they really are only 5ms long. It was my fault for trying to be sarcastic. So maybe it is even more impressive now, 50 W to light some LED’s just blows your mind, what an achievement.

  • Fyodor

    I don’t know if it’s intentional, but his use of “power” and “power/liter” is not terribly useful. I’d like to see some energy input/collected statistics.

    • Anon2012_2014

      I think it is intentional. That is one reason why I do not trust BLP.

      They brag about power density but not about energy density so there is no way to know if it is producing more energy than chemical.

      They have burnt through more funding than all the other LENR guys combined.

  • jousterusa

    It’s no secret that I am a big if sometime critical fan of Randell Mills’ work, yet when it comes to this video, I feel like the same result could have been achieved with a very long string of Black Cat firecrackers set off in a home fan – and it would be equally pointless and uninstructive to the ordinary man or woman.. Mills is trying to achieve continuous, uninterrupted power (I guess that’s redundant) in devices that are more appropriate to a combustion engine than an electric generator, and that’s always been the issue that’s kept him from commercialization – making those “spikes” as harmonious as spark plugs in a Jaguar. For me, the important thing is that he’s trying his hardest to move forward, and I have no doubt that one day he’ll chance upon the secret of what he’s trying to achieve.

  • Vio Phile

    Theory behind this is solid. While not completely convinced, I would still not dismiss this as hopeful thinking.

    • jonnyb

      I hope you are right, I don’t have much confidence in this one except that if it is true it negates the need for complex control systems. We will have to just wait and see.

  • pelgrim108

    I like watching video’s of people trying to build something out of the ordinairy like Wikispeed, Open Source Ecology, Wooden Tool Man ect.

    These videos from Mills are not meant as proof of something imho. He is just letting us see the project he’s working on because he is proud of them and maybe he learned from Rossi that you can get good tips from the audience.

  • Curbina

    One can easily dismiss this with a comment like “Wow, Sparks!!!”. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for a proper release of data and methodology. As far a this video refers, it could be faked with an arc soldering torch, but I prefer to wait for further and relevant information.

  • jonnyb

    100kW input and a few LED light up pretty impressive. Need to see it on a proper load, smoothed output.

    • Andreas Moraitis

      If all the LED’s together have a rated power of 20 W (rough estimate), we had a COP of 0.0002.

      • jonnyb

        Like I said Andreas impressive. Maybe it is Hot Fusion!!

    • Ophelia Rump

      It would be if it were a real measure of power.
      To be real, you would need to adjust the measurement for the time when there is no light being emitted. When you measure bursts of anything and measure the peak over time, you are deluding yourself. Most of the time there is nothing, that time of nothingness does not count as time of any quantity. This is sampling error.

  • http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/ barty

    I don’t see anything else there. This does not convince me.