Report of UNI LENR Lecture by Tom Wind

Here’s a summary of the meeting held at the University of Northern Iowa yesterday.

I arrived at the venue early and after introducing myself to the people who were preparing for the meeting I was warmly greeted, and invited for a soup dinner before the event with Tom Wind and others, which was very pleasant, and I was able to get to know Tom a little there. He is a consulting electrical engineer and has been involved for most of his career working in the wind industry here in the State of Iowa. He told me that the program description of him working for the Iowa Department of Natural Resources was incorrect.

I won’t be able to cover all the content that was presented in the Lecture here — there was so much of it. I was actually surprised about how much ground Tom was able to cover in about an hour and a half, but he did a very good job at summarizing the LENR/Cold Fusion story from the days of Pons and Fleischmann to the very present in a way that was comprehensible to a non-expert audience. The event was filmed and I was told that video of the talk and slideshow will be posted on the UNI website in the near future.

Much of what Tom talked about will be familiar to readers here, so I will just present here some things that I found to be particularly noteworthy.

The event was held at the Center for Energy and Environmental Education (CEEE) at UNI, and sponsored by the Recycling and Reuse Technology Transfer Center. Catherine Zeman, Director of the Recycling and Reuse Technology Transfer Center and Pat Higby, Energy Education Outreach Coordinator made introductions at the lecture, and both expressed enthusiasm about hosting a lecture about ‘cold fusion.’

Tom said he became enamored with the subject of LENR after attending last summer’s ICCF-18 conference at the University of Missouri. He said that he was in awe meeting who he described some of the smartest people in the world there, and felt that this was a field of research that is very important. He mentioned talking to representative of Statoil, Norway’s giant oil company at ICCF, and Tom was surprised to hear that instead of having a negative take on LENR, his attitude was ‘this is great, we need this!’

The most common phrase Tom used throughout the lecture was ‘this is real’. He presented supporting evidences from academic papers, scientific reports and business developments. As far as commercial viability of LENR goes, he mentioned that until Andrea Rossi came on the scene, the levels of excess heat that researchers were obtaining were not at levels that could be useful in commercial products — but Rossi’s work has changed all that. He spent quite a lot of time talking about the E-Cat and emphasized the Levi report as providing solid evidence for the E-Cat’s viability. He showed the familiar pictures of the glowing hot cats and said that it would be impossible for that level of heat to be generated with the electric leads shown. He also mentioned other commercial players such as Brillouin, Defkalion, Jet Energy, Lenuco, and Mitsubishi.

He made some interesting comments regarding the effect of LENR on the utilities industry. At one point, he held up a small vial of nickel powder and said, ‘this is the gift from God to the utility industry’, and explained that Industrial Heat’s approach is to work on an large industrial scale which should involved retrofitting power plants with an E-Cat energy source. Tom mentioned that although he works in the wind industry he actually hopes that LENR will eventually eliminate the need for wind turbines.

Some of his concluding points were:

  • It’s real
  • Nuclear safety is not an issue
  • The theory is still not understood, but commercial products will be available anyway
  • The Chinese will use it first
  • This technology will be of great benefit to the poorer people of the world

I was a little disappointed that there were not more people in attendance — I counted around 20 attendees at the lecture. But the level of interest seemed high among members of the audience, and there were interesting questions and discussions following the lecture. I was introduced by Tom to the audience following the lecture. I was particularly pleased to meet other people in my part of the world who are following the story, and I got some contact details of some people, so we can stay in touch. I asked Pat Higby if there might be a chance for future events like this at the CEEE at UNI, and she seemed in favor.

I will keep an eye out for the posting of the video of the lecture.

  • clovis ray

    Nice report frank, thanks a million, things are on the move, the long wait is almost over, hold on too your hats.

  • Bernie777

    Frank, Thanks for attending and report.

  • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

    Hope. Thank you Frank!

  • R101

    Sounds very promising. Thanks Frank!

  • georgehants

    Roger your statement “Nations will grow up when people grow up, and not before.”
    Is equivalent to saying people will die when they die.
    You seem to be saying that any medical intervention will not change things and that nothing should be done to learn or teach.

  • Oystein Lande

    I’m surprised to hear that a Statoil representative attended the CCF – as an official capacity of the Company – or private I wonder? Anyhow, I hope it will gain some traction now, with the help of a commercial breakthrough. Then we can also hope some serious research funding are provided into the theories, and will open up a new wonderfull area of physics – finally….25 years after Fleischmann and Pons.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Yes the Hot-Cat is fantastic but as we approach the 25th anniversary of F&P’s March 23rd, 1989 announcement let’s remember that they were getting close to being successful. For example, a palladium-deuterium reactor that never received much attention made plenty of heat for weeks. See Les Case’s “football” at ~ 36:30.
      I think the problem was the cost. Palladium is just too expensive. That will change when Mitsubishi starts transmuting zirconium into palladium.

      Zr(90) + 6d > Pd(102)

      Zr(92) + 6d > Pd(104)

      Zr(94) + 6d > Pd(106)

      Zr(96) + 6d > Pd(108)

  • orsobubu

    Bachcole, you already liquidated me rudely, in the past, because I only said profit cannot be so easily explained as:”you buy low , then sell high”. I again guarantee this is, in general, absolutely impossible, for mathematical reasons you we’ll find in every political economy manual (in fact, average enterprises have profits equal to zero). Now, I can see you also have some problems in the international relationships field. You can hope all day and all night long about nations growing up and love each other, if you want: but, exactly for the same reasons that profit is exclusively a class exploitation phenomenon, I guarantee that conflicting imperialism directly derives from economic, materialistic factors; so, if you don’t remove exploitation, profit, money, market and – in a word – capitalism, the imperialist blocks will never cease to make economic war (when the cycle is overall positive, as today, China exports capitals and expands its influence sphere happily in every corner of Africa, for example) and military war when things turn badly (overextended US are in strategical relative decline, for example: can they permit to lose the grip? Never in history an empire lost its predominance without fight, especially if this decline would have resulted in internal turmoil). LENRs will represent simply another tool in the arsenals.

    • Christina

      A capitalistic system is the best economic system this planet’s found. Albeit, it has many problems because it’s run by people. Other systems have problems built into them too: they build despot faster. The people of true republic–like ours used to be–trust God, follow his rules, and don’t need socialist government to hand out food for their children because they have traditional families.

      Children in families with both parents are happier, healthier, and richer in our capitalistic system. Don’t ask me about the poor? I ask you why they haven’t got a good enough education to make a good living? Cities should make certain that all schools have enough funds to be good schools no matter their location. Parents should absolutely urge their kids to go to college and to get good grades in high school. Less sports, more academics should be focused on in the junior and high schools so the kids settle down and study. We should fix that as voters and pay extra taxes because education is a priority–but only if it produces employable people. Maybe our high schools should be six years long so the kids can graduate with AA’s in a field of their choosing.

      Maybe we should promote that instead of free hand outs, television and movie stars, and drugs. Kids will feel better about themselves when they’ve had an education that prepares them for the real world because a great education has always been the backbone of our economy.

      • Bernie777

        I agree capitalism is the best system, but if not regulated in turns into anarchy.

  • georgehants

    Roger, I hope you are doing your bit to free Tibet on the Internet.

  • georgehants

    Super Frank thank you.
    Would have been a little better if you had not slept last night but stayed up to write your report, ready for us Brits to absorb while reading our ironed Times newspaper at breakfast.

  • mcloki

    The Chinese will use it first. That is the line that should shake the US military to it’s core. They have been looking to make China enemy number 1 for a long time. since they have not be a able to do so they now face cuts. You know the military industrial complex can’t stand losing profit. Now they have a new boogie man. A boogie man with an inexhaustible power supply able to make long loiter drones. Expect a lot of research go into this field very soon.

    • Omega Z

      Why do you assume the U.S. Military doesn’t already have LENR Technology available to it.
      The Military started investigating this phenomena at least as far back as 1961.

      As to China having it 1st, This opinion is probably based on the IH contact with the Chinese Research Park of which probably concerns after market add on components.

      I fully expect the E-cats themselves to be built stateside in an automated system. There would be no cost advantage building them in China. In fact, they could probably be built cheaper in the U.S.

  • Sanjeev

    Great report ! I’m glad to see more people joining the lenr bandwagon. As I said in some comments here that engineers are more enthusiastic about lenr than academics, which is a good thing because the engineers in the field of mechanical, chemical and electrical are going to push this tech further. Engineers have an attitude – if it works , lets use it.

  • Fortyniner

    Thanks Frank for attending and reporting on this event. It seems to me that although what was said was obviously important, who it was said to is probably of more immediate interest. I wonder if you got an overview of who the 20 or so attendees were, who they represented and at what level if commercial, media or academic?

    • ecatworld

      From the people I spoke with it was mainly people from the University (staff and students), and people in the energy industry. No media other than myself as far as I could tell.

      • Andreas Moraitis

        It’s good news that people from the industry were present. The interest of the industry is presumably more important than mainstream media coverage or papers in scientific journals, at least in the current situation.

      • Bernie777

        That says it all about our media……they are absent

  • bachcole

    Excellent report, Frank. This report made my day. I was bouncing up and down for joy reading it. And I am PARTICULARLY happy to hear that he and other people in other energy technology sectors aren’t jealous or resentful or skeptical. I am so very glad that they were so positive. I think that we here in ECW think too much in stereotypes, thinking that all oil people or all wind people or all environmentalists are going to be negative about LENR. These people are actually human beings who love their children and grandchildren, and who wants to live in a polluted world.

    And don’t worry too much about there only being 20 people there. Remember that enthusiasm counts for a lot, and that Jesus only had 14 enthusiastic people. We have hundreds if not thousands, and now we have 20 more.

    I just hope the establishment doesn’t try to break Wind.

    Sorry about that. I just can’t help myself sometimes. That joke added to my joy for today. Now I can go wash a pile of dishes chuckling to myself. (:->)

  • Harry

    Wow, great summary. Wish I could have been there and I can see that your energies were not wasted. Keep up the good work!

  • Mr. Moho

    Do you think Tom Wind knows something that most people don’t yet about the most prominent LENR players (Rossi, Brillouin, etc) but could talk about that just yet, or did he give you that impression?

    • ecatworld

      No, I didn’t get the impression he has any special secret information. He did talk about discussions he had with people he met at ICCF including George Miley and Bob Higgins — I think he’s someone who works in the energy industry who is a serious and well-informed observer and student of the LENR field.

      • Bruce Williams

        Thanks Frank for an excellent and, as usual, enthusiastic report.

  • artefact

    Thanks for your efforts!

    • big thanks too!
      Not a surprise, but very good it is said in public.