Rossi Doesn’t Believe in Hydrinos



Thanks to Sammy for bringing attention to this brief, but interesting Q & A on the Journal of Nuclear Physics. Like him, I’m a bit surprised that Andrea Rossi answered this question because it deals with the theory of a potential competitor — Blacklight Power, and he says his policy is not to discuss competitors. The hydrino theory (where normal hydrogen atoms ‘shrink’ under the BLP process) is central to Randell Mills’ explanation of the excess energy that is reportedly being produced in BLP’s systems.

SammyM
January 15th, 2014 at 12:30 PM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Do you believe in hydrinos?

1- Yes
2- No
3- Don’t know
4- You can’t comment on this at this time

Kind regards,
SammyM
Canada

Andrea Rossi
January 15th, 2014 at 2:13 PM
Sammy M, Canada:
No.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Rossi apparently is aware of Randell Mills’ hydrino theory then, or probably he wouldn’t have answered the question. Rossi said recently that he was going to make a publication which would deal with theoretical aspects of his work (except for talking about certain issues that are considered secret), so it’s going to be interesting the differences between his and Mills’ ideas. At this point it’s hard to know how different the E-Cat and BLP processes are, especially as we have really no idea what Rossi’s process involves — but it is setting up to be an interesting comparison.


  • Anon2012_2014

    “Rossi doesn’t believe in Hydrinos”

    And Mills doesn’t believe in LENR.

    I think they are likely two faces of the same phenomenon with wildly different models that are not confirmed one way or the other. Let us see some readily demonstrable energy and power output beyond conventional chemical for either; that a third party lab can demonstrate just from the instructions in the paper or patent. Then theoretical physicists can work on a model that by scientific method proves or disproves the physics at the atomic/subatomic scale.

    I don’t really care about the model. I want to see empirical results that I can have duplicated.

  • Chris I

    Amazing!!!! This is something that Rossi agrees with me about!!! :-D

  • Donk970

    Here’s what I wonder. Since BLP produces net energy out by collapsing a hydrogen down to a neutrino + energy, what happens to all these neutrinos? Are we going to discover that neutrinos are dangerous in some way? LENR has the advantage that no previously unknown particles or states of mater are being produced as waste – just common, well understood elements like He4 and Cu.

  • georgehants

    Well I shall put my bottle in the fridge ready for the 21st. and just maybe.

  • Daniel Maris

    Or Darwin and Wallace – quite a few accidents over the years.

  • GreenWin

    Please detail the patent law that you believes supports your statement.

  • Jonnyb

    Rossi has said that his theory foes not upset the status quo of main stream scientific knowledge, or words to that effect, therefore he can not believe in Hydrinos, if the effects are of a similar nature, or his theory is wrong.

  • Billy Jackson

    hah! kind of like 2 Unicorns arguing and pointing at each other yelling YOU DONT EXSIST!

    • Daniel Maris

      Or like the proponents of phlogiston arguing with the proponents of oxygen.

    • Sanjeev

      Theories and models are just like unicorns, doesn’t matter if they exist.
      One should be thankful to both Rossi and BLP as none of them are yelling at each other that excess heat doesn’t exist.

      • Billy Jackson

        for the record sanjeev. i have high hopes in Rossi and BLP,. hope, but also enough objectivity that i understand things may take longer than we expect, maybe even much longer, before we benefit from said technologies

  • wapiti22

    BlackLight Power Vs. Rossi’s Cold Fusion – Related Technologies?
    http://pesn.com/2011/02/08/9501758_Black_Light_Power_and_Rossis_Cold_Fusion_related/

    • Vogel

      Maybe positive or negative !

    • bachcole

      I’ll wait for the synopsis.

  • Pekka Janhunen

    Mills’ hydrinos are few hundred eV energy. In mainstream science some authors have considered few hundred keV (KILO-eV) states which they also named hydrinos (e.g. http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0608095). Those two hydrinos are different (imaginary) beasts since they have 1000-fold difference in energy. I’m not sure which hydrinos Rossi thought about when he answered the question. Although I believe he would answer both questions the same way. But my point is that if Rossi was thinking of the mainstream hydrinos, then he wasn’t commenting a competitor’s work.

  • LilyLover

    We can have our difference of opinions; but this is the first thing I did not like about Dr. Rossi.
    I trusted all “Rossi Says” so far, but now I need to see E-Cat in action. For, Dr. Mills’s theory is far more transparent and reasonable than Dr. Rossi’s upcoming one, as of now.

    • Omega Z

      Mills can afford to be more transparent. He has obtained many patents on his device by presenting them differently.
      Mills also had 1 patent given then taken away due to influence of certain entities, But I believe he was able to get it reinstated with help of some good legal council.

  • SammyM

    When I asked the question I chose my words carefully, I’m surprised he answered so quickly and I thank him for his honesty. I’m very curious what’s going to transpire in the next few months.

    SammyM

    • Veblin

      Maybe the Rossi effect involves Rossinos instead.

      • MLTC

        Good one! :-) Will you be here all week?

        • GreenWin

          Regardless gents,,, Be sure to tip your wait-staff generously. They make the world go ’round.

    • ecatworld

      You gave him every option not to weigh in on this, Sammy — but he did anyway!