25 Economic Impacts of the E-Cat

The following is a guest post by Rick Allen. The opinions expressed in guest posts are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of E-Cat World.

What the E-Cat represents is simple: a source of cheap, clean, compact, portable, and abundant power. Such a revolutionary alternative source of energy is tremendously needed in our world, and its arrival and proliferation will affect countless businesses, industries, and sectors of our economy. No aspect of our civilization will remain untouched. This article attempts to list and briefly describe some possible impacts. It should be stated, of course, that no one can predict the future and there are many variables – like government regulations – that may alter the course of this technology.

1. Robotics – Currently, most industrial robots are either tethered to a power supply or utilize large, heavy batteries.  E-Cat technology could eventually lead to the creation of small, portable power supplies that could potentially last for months or longer. Imagine humanoid robots performing house hold chores or running errands: this could be the future.

2. Medicine – All sorts of medical devices require power. Portable E-Cat power supplies could provide long lasting power supplies for everything from pacemakers, defibrillators, portable respirators, artificial hearts, to prosthetic limbs.

3. Automotive – In modern vehicles there are many systems that can fail: alternators can stop working, fuel injectors can get clogged, radiators can leak, and so forth. If a vehicle utilized a portable E-Cat power supply, many of these systems that are often prone to failure could be eliminated. Also, due to space savings from the removal of a traditional internal combustion engine and fuel tank, vehicles could be completely re-designed. A whole new generation of low maintenance vehicle with near infinite range could enter the marketplace.

4. Recycling – The recycling industry is very energy intensive. Every aspect from the collection of materials, sorting, and processing requires power. If plants had access to cheap power from E-Cat generators, the industry could gain an economic advantage. If the cost of recycling became low enough, companies may start buying or leasing old landfills to gather the materials they contain.

5. Internet – Hosting web pages and databases, such as Google, requires massive server farms that consume huge quantities of power. Many companies are building large solar power plants to provide the electricity for their facilities. Instead, with the E-Cat, these companies could save huge amounts of space and money. I could imagine every rack of processors being powered by a small cold fusion generator. These generators would produce power twenty four hours a day regardless of weather conditions.

6. Food Production – Old fashioned, outdoor agriculture could become a technology of the past. Right now, it is possible to grow food rapidly and cost effectively indoors. In certain European nations, companies have developed methods of utilizing LED lighting, hydroponics, and control of environmental factors to produce huge crops in small spaces. With a source of dirt cheap energy, this technology would be even more advantageous. Many major cities may build skyscrapers dedicated to food production.

7. Transportation – If you buy a bus ticket to travel somewhere, a significant fraction of the money goes towards fuel costs. Once the E-Cat technology is incorporated into vehicles, the cost of travel could go down. In addition, with fewer systems to fail, bus and taxi companies could save money on repair costs. This would be a huge benefit for individuals that cannot afford their own private vehicles. With cheap access to transportation, people could travel more for work, education, or recreation.

8. Electronics – The latest cell phones and laptops only have a battery life of half a day or less with constant use. Utilizing E-Cat based power supplies, they could stay active for months or years. Obviously, such a device that never has to be recharged would become extremely popular. In addition, with an abundant source of power, portable electronics could be made with greater processing capabilities.

9. Heating – Even before E-Cat’s that produce electricity directly arrive on the market, there will be versions that produce dirt cheap heat at almost any temperature you require – as long as it’s under the melting point of nickel. This will allow for affordable heating of homes and businesses. In addition, industrial processes that need heat – for example refineries – could utilize this technology instead of using electrical power from the grid or burning fossil fuels. Fuel shortages in winter will become a thing of the past. What I would like to see are huge indoor gardens and greenhouses located in frigid parts of the world.

10. Solar –  Why use solar panels that take up a great deal of space and only produce power during the day? The E-Cat will provide compact power regardless if there is light. I expect solar power to become totally obsolete. Although this is NOT investment advice, I expect all stocks of solar power companies to drop significantly. Anything solar power can do, the E-Cat can do better. For example, does your business need a way to produce its own electricity? A nickel hydrogen reactor will be able to produce it in a fraction of the space, twenty four hours a day, with no battery backup, and with low installation cost.

11. Wind Wind power requires not only massive amounts of horizontal space but also vertical space as well. When a community can be powered by small, portable devices, who will want to litter the sky with giant spinning rotors?

12. Traditional Nuclear – Virtually banned. Uranium and plutonium based nuclear power is simply too expensive and dangerous. By contrast, the E-Cat technology cannot melt down, does not use nuclear fuels, and does not produce nuclear waste: it has all of the benefits of conventional nuclear power with none of the drawbacks. In addition, it will be cheap, portable, and compact. I expect all nuclear power plants to begin shutting down a couple years after the introduction of nickel hydrogen power.

13. Coal – I think this is one of the first industries that will be impacted. The burning of coal produces half of the world’s energy. The E-Cat technology will be able to replace the coal that’s used to produce steam for power plants. In a very short period of time, the demand for coal will shrink and the price of electricity will drop.

14. Natural Gas – A significant portion of the natural gas produced is used for power production. In addition, there are many people who still use it for heating or cooking. The E-Cat technology will be able to reduce the demand for natural gas very quickly.

15. Oil – I doubt that the E-Cat will have a huge impact on the demand for oil, at first. The millions of cars on the road will not be replaced overnight. Also, even when more E-Cat powered vehicles start being used, oil will still be needed for the production of fertilizer, pharmaceuticals, and many other products. The difference is that after a period of time, much less oil will be burned for energy.

16. Manufacturing – The reduced cost of energy will be a benefit to companies that produce the products we buy and sell. They will be able to pass this cost savings to the consumer. Let’s consider a box of corn flakes. Energy is required at every stage between the farm and the grocery store: energy is used to power the machinery that plants, sprays and harvests the corn, the truck that transports it to the factory, the machines that process the corn into flakes, the machines that put the flakes into boxes, the trucks that take the boxes to the grocery store, the lights that illuminate the store, and the computer in the checkout counter. If all of these energy costs are reduced, that $3.99 box of cereal could be greatly reduced.

17. Efficiency Industry – The push to mandate certain levels of energy efficiency – for example banning traditional light bulbs over a certain wattage – will go away. With dirt cheap energy, efficiency will no longer be as significant of an issue. I look forward to heavy duty, metal appliances that may use more power but will last for long periods of time. Maybe the amount of flimsy plastic “junk” sold will be reduced.

18. Carbon – The idea of trading and taxing carbon emissions will fade. Due to the fact that the E-Cat produces zero CO2, global release of carbon into the environment will dramatically drop as the technology proliferates. In fact, with unlimited cheap energy, carbon sequestration could take place by restoring deserts into forests. Also, even if global warming did take place, with an unlimited source of energy mankind would have a better shot at survival.

19. Aviation – It may take a longer period of time for airplanes to incorporate E-Cat based power devices. However, when they do, aircraft could fly for weeks on end – until they need maintenance. Because of the reduced fuel cost, the price of airline tickets could go down dramatically. Also, we may see an increase in the number of private aircraft due to much lower. Of course, even before the E-Cat technology is used as a primary source of power for propulsion, supplementary nickel hydrogen reactors could provide electricity for climate control, electronics, and lighting in planes.

20. Water – The availability of fresh water is an increasing concern in many parts of the world. E-Cat technology is well suited to provide energy in desalination projects — a very energy-intensive process. This could lead to great improvements in health and agriculture. Extraction of water from the atmosphere cheaply is another possibility with this technology.

21. Space – With the E-Cat technology, it will become practical to have habitats in orbit and elsewhere in our solar system. One reason is that rocket propulsion will be enhanced via cold fusion. The amount of fuel that would need to be used to achieve orbit would be reduced. Another reason is that nickel-hydrogen reactors would be ideal power sources for space stations. Instead of having to bring dangerous, traditional nuclear fuels or huge amounts of chemical fuel, tiny amounts of nickel and hydrogen could be brought instead. Also, because nickel and hydrogen is so common, it could be found almost anywhere.

22. Investment, Banking, and the Stock Market – When the E-Cat technology emerges on the market, the world will be stunned. The technology will be considered too good to be true, but it really will be true. . Countless industries will want investment money to produce cold fusion based products, but other industries will be going bankrupt.

23. Off the Grid – In a world gone mad with spying, there is a growing off the grid movement in which people try to separate themselves as much as possible from the world. Sometimes, individuals will build small homes in isolated areas, or groups of like minded people will form communities. One of the biggest challenges for these individuals is how to produce power. With the E-Cat technology, they will be able to have vehicles and electrical generators that can operate for long periods of time without re-fueling. With cheap energy it is possible to extract water from the atmosphere, grow massive amounts of food indoors, and even manufacture parts with 3D printers. Businesses that sell products that allow for survival in remote locations will thrive. I also think this will include the recreational vehicle industry. Just imagine being able to purchase an RV that does not require gasoline, ever. Or, a boat with an E-Cat generator that would allow it to operate for months at a time. Escaping the powers that be will be easier with nickel hydrogen technology.

24. Mining –The E-Cat will provide power for more efficient mining, and an economic boom could lead to greater need for raw materials. Eventually, we will no longer be forced to mine materials from the Earth. Instead of damaging our environment, we will be able to send cold fusion powered spacecraft to the asteroid belt to mine materials and bring them back to Earth.

25. Education – Cold fusion has been considered pseudoscience for decades. When the world realizes that the E-Cat is a real cold fusion or LENR technology, millions of minds will be opened to a new reality in physics. This will generate many new technologies that could enhance our civilization. For example, maybe someone will come up with a practical gravity modification technology.

As you can see, the E-Cat technology will affect the world in a major way. At first, the global economy will be rattled, but the technology will soon create millions of new jobs. If used appropriately, nickel hydrogen fusion will be capable of transforming our civilization from one of poverty and scarcity, to one of abundance.

Rick Allen

  • Omega Z

    Nothing is Free. Everything exacts a costs.

  • bachcole

    What a pouting crock of $H!T. Some dumb-ass leftist undoubtedly said the same thing in 1903 about the automobile and in 1913 about the airplane. And in 1993 about the cellphone. I could go on and on and on. Poor baby. John Taylor is a victim. Let’s all get out our violins and play sad songs for John Taylor, the victim.

    Greedy people also will be happy to sell to the average person so that they can make lots of money. You could control your desires and thus your spending and start buying a share in the ownership of the means of production, then you wouldn’t be such a victim anymore. But that would require sacrifice, and being a victim is much more fun.

  • gdaigle

    Excellent points, Rick. I especially like your comment, “… maybe someone will come up with a practical gravity modification technology.”

    Almost three years ago I wrote the book Gravity 2.0 on the possibilities of gravity modification. I had just heard about Rossi and his E-Cat. I suggested that if we were to employ gravity modification technology on earth and in space, as has been proposed by Jochem Hauser, we would need a sustainable, non-interruptable, “off the grid” power source. At the time I suggested two technologies. The first was E-Cat, and over the past three years it and other related LENR technologies seem only to have increased their likelihood of being that technology.

  • bitplayer

    Prediction: LENR will have little economic impact earlier than 2018. The primary economic impact of LENR starting in 2018 will be the reduction in other-energy capital investments. From 2018 to 2023 LENR will be primarily a distributed industrial heating, steam/turbine electric generation and desalination energy source. By 2023 batteries and other energy storage devices will be powerful and simple enough that LENR will not be cost competitive for large areas of equivalent utility. In particular, LENR will not advance significantly into the automotive industry, which will collapse anyway with the advent of self-driving cars and the resulting reduction in private car ownership.

    • US_Citizen71

      I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you’re European. In the US personal cars will not go a way in the next decade maybe in the next three or four decades if and only if some form mass transit linking all of the State Capitols as well as the rest of the cities is installed. Unlike Europe the US is far more spread out with vast open areas bigger than many small European countries. What rail we have is primarily used to transport goods not people.

      • bitplayer

        Snap! (the limb breaking). Only left the USA to live in places we’d conquered (so maybe some Euro influence…)

        Seems to me like intercity transport distance issues are orthogonal to the benefits of self-driving cars. If I’m going to take a driver-less cab to Walmart, why not to Walla Walla? The equation is energy versus safety and cost of ownership. The energy won’t cost any more (hopefully a lot less), and the safety and cost of ownership differences will soon predominate. Then when the pool of personal car insurance buyers starts to shrink, and premiums skyrocket, the game will be up.

        • US_Citizen71

          I think you are using wishful thinking. Do you honestly think people will give up the ability to go any where at given moment that easily? LA without personal vehicles for instances, it is part of the culture there..

          • Babble

            I agree some with US_Cit, I live in the Southwest and without a car I would not go anywhere. I drove thru some of the traffic in the north part of LA (101 and 134) recently, awful. However, I could see small self driving cars being used in many places instead of owning. They would have to be linked to a card so people with trashy habits would not be allowed to use one. This would help solve the big city traffic issue.

    • Buck

      BP, it is easily argued that the impact upon other-energy capital investments has already begun, using Rossi’s first public demonstration a few years back. Divestiture of fossil fuel resources as well as renewable energy manufacturing has already begun as the aware large Corps begin the long process of shifting their business. The market valuation of certain public companies have already shown adjustments.

      In addition, if Brillouin and the E-Cat achieve what they have put on the table, then another trigger event may occur as much as 3 years earlier than your stated time frame.

      The relevant definition centers on the meaning of the threshold “little economic impact”. Another important point is that none of the vested interests will publicly describe LENR events with “cause and effect”.

  • Chris I

    25. Education…

    Uhm, when the brunt of physicists finally understand why it’s not impossible, they will slap their foreheads with a grimace and an “Ugh! LOL we hadn’t thought of it that way!” but it will be just the Nth time, down through the history of physics. Most of these times have been turning points, or in close ties with them, and no doubt figuring out exactly what goes on in the hydride will give insight into methodology of manipulating nuclear processes. Perhaps more theoretical understanding too, but it’s hard to say so far. Still, it will be just one more time, like several others in history.

    So, as far as Education with a capital E goes, well… c’mon, we’ve heard it all before.

  • Christopher Calder

    The unfortunate side effect of LENR technology will be a revolution in military hardware. Every nation on Earth will be able to afford and build around-the-world cruise missiles powered by LENR jets or LENR driven propellers. We had better start making peace with the countries we are now bombing at will, because in the near future they all will have the power to retaliate against the USA in a major way. Our drone cowboy foreign policy must end, and the USA must trade its ugly hubris for humility and a willingness to obey international law.

    • bachcole

      Oh, liberal BS.

      (1) Most of the countries that we drone are oil rich or their holy warriors (read: terrorists) are supported by oil rich Saudis and others. When their income drops massively, they won’t have the extra cash to support their holy warriors. So we won’t be so inclined to drone them.

      (2) It takes a lot of technological savvy to make cruise missiles and drones and such, and since such people spend all of their time forcing their boys to read ONLY the Quran and forcing their girls to read NOTHING, they won’t have the technological expertise to drone us for at least a generation if not forever or a very, very long time, which ever comes first.

      • Theholywest

        You are right but do not “wake them” up, bachcole. While the west have had industrial revolutions after revolutions, many thanks to this guy : Hamid al-Ghazali, their pioneering mathematics became the work of the devil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guvspR4UQys

        When someone mentioned “our imaginary friend” , it makes me shivering with fears for our future – the dark age of ignorance and blind belief without evidence.

    • Chris I

      Oh, both of you.

      First, This site isn’t the place for political squabbling.

      Second, who do you mean by “we”? Not all of us here are Yankees. Likewise, not all of us are so lacking in perspective of international affairs, nor even of the macroeconomics which bachcole apparently fails to stop and think about.

    • uuGuurru

      Dear Mr. Calder, You are precisely right. And i note here the same as at Steorn Forum in 2006: Even more formidable and more cost efficient may be few thousands Torpedoes powered with LENR with rough navigation by GLONASS (and towed antenna) and terminal navigation with active acoustic. This may quietly paralyse every Empire very quickly and anonymously.

    • Christina

      If we, who purport to be mainly Christians, finally obey God’s laws, He will be on our side; if not, will this country still exist in twenty-five years?

      Remember that God puts a lot a stock in people obeying Him and he gives nations a long time to repent, but if they don’t, eventually the manure (sin’s effect) hits the fan. (Read the whole Bible, every word, and you’ll get the idea. Usually when the Bible mentions purity it means a person’s pure love of God.)

      God allows this because He didn’t cause the manure to hit the fan; in other words, we cause problems ourselves and if we haven’t earned His help because of our sinning, He doesn’t want to help us because sinning cannot be perpetuated through the centuries because it matters to God whether or not individuals are in heaven or purgatory in 100,000 years or in hell. He wants everyone to love Him and aspire to Heaven.

      So, yes, the coming crisis has been foretold; only loving God and following God’s law of loving God and through God, one’s neighbors, will avert this crisis.

      Have a good day and may God bless you.

  • uuGuurru

    ad 24 Mining) it is error – LENR itself is capable of producing materials (basic elements), it is one of secret of LENR. Rossi not want admit this, because it invalidated his patent application(s). Defkalion bypass this with XRFS papers where numbers was in percentage, not in gramms (picogramms). So mining will have competitor: materials produced by LENR

    Ask Dr. Keshe, he know answers

    • GreenWin

      There was a very good talk at ICCF18 on just this subject of “practical” transmuted commercial elements. While somewhere WAY ahead it may be practical to use LENR for varied transmutation – the data does not support it. I recall the talk was given by David Nagle. The Navy/JWK patent for particle generation is a first step down the road to LENR-based radioisotope remediation.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Rick: Good list, thanks. All adds up to a lot of disruption. Take oil, oil reserves will be worth less, the assets on oil company balance sheets will decrease by Trillions.

    • US_Citizen71

      Which they will write off against profits.

  • cliff

    Interesting list. Bear in mind that there are different kinds of power sources and power requirements based on peak power vs. continuous power. Many of the things listed require peak power and not continuous power. Robotics, for example will not be able to use an ecat in the robot because they need a lot of power, then a little, then none, then a lot, then none, then a little, etc. This is the kind of application that needs a battery, just like automobiles. The ecat could charge the battery, but you still need a battery.

    On the other hand, agriculture, like heating greenhouses is a very good application.

    The key to understanding the economic impacts is distributed, continuous power that should be buffered by some of the new batteries (super capacitors?) that are coming on line this or next year.

    The central power plant, run by a monopoly, will become obsolete. That will make them unhappy.

    The oil and gas producing countries will become less important. Only plastics, lubricants and chemicals will be produced by oil and gas eventually. So, it will require far less. That will make them unhappy.

    Windmills will become obsolete so that will make the producers of windmills unhappy, but the birds will be safer.

    I think we have to be very careful about the economic impacts to those interests that stand to lose a lot, if not everything. What would they do to preserve their lifestyle and power? Are we talking about the potential for war? Wars have been fought over less.

    • Buck

      Your final comments point directly to a pragmatic perspective: the LENR community should temper expectations about the rate of adoption. Governments, with a job description that includes “prevent the preventable war”, is figuratively sitting on a bed of nails.

      One the one hand, some argue that the recent multiple Gulf wars have Oil as one root cause. On the other hand, the onset of LENR will trigger a material change in Asset values and Income for the existing energy infrastructure and those dependent upon it. And, on the mysterious third hand is the enormous benefits arising from very inexpensive very clean energy positively impacting all energy consuming activities as well as the environment.

      Sounds like a dilemma, a problem with absolutely no clean answer.

    • US_Citizen71

      I would think NiH fueled LENR would likely decrease the chances of war. Outside of ideological differences the big cause of war tends to be more of an attempt to gain resources not the lack of buyers for your resources. Think about it have you ever heard of the marketing ploy ‘Buy my product or I’ll shoot you!’? Nickel is so very common most countries likely have enough junk nickel laying around in the form of discarded NiCads, costume jewelry and discarded machine parts to provide all the nickel they would need for power for decades.

      Cheap abundant energy solves virtually everyone’s problems. Mideast oil producers biggest problems are food and water. Cheap desalination combined with condensing water out of the atmosphere can solve their water shortages, cheap electricity allows for indoor growing in arid climates to maximize food growth against water usage. LENR powered ships make it more costly to feed the crew than power the ship, vastly reducing shipping costs and time as freighters could move quicker as fuel economy would be a much smaller concern. In turn the cost to ship food and other commodities drops to the point that new markets open up.

      LENR biggest gift to the world is likely peace.

      • Buck

        I agree.

        Here is information on the mining of Nickel. I think it fair to say that once Nickel becomes a strategic mineral, the effort to discover new areas of heavy deposits will increase the total known world reserves that will impact the map below.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel

        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Nickel_%28mined%292.PNG

        And, it is important to keep in mind that additional metals may make effective substrates for LENR reactions, thereby expanding the strategic resource further. 20 years ago, only palladium was being investigated.

        • Omega Z

          There is a Reason that Francesco Piantelli listed so many different elements as reactants in His IP Patent And a Reason Rossi is concerned.

          Rossi is very aware of the other elements being capable of the same abilities. He has seen them. Rossi went with Ni/H at the time because it provided the best response at this time & is Cheap & Plentiful.

          Likely his intent was to go back & work with them latter. Never know. They may provide a better energy source once the details are known.
          Personally, I Think PD will be better in the long term, But it’s a more limited & expensive proposition likely to be reserved for specific uses. Space tech & other high Energy requiring topics. Also more complex. Longer to market.

          • Buck

            Very good. And putting forth the reminder that Brillouin’s particular LENR tech does not consume the nickel, then there is virtually an ‘infinite’ quantity of LENR suitable substrate.

    • bachcole

      We have it on good authority that OOgg has discovered the controlled use of fire. You know, that “stuff” we see when lightning hits trees. Now you guys want to define all of the uses for this controlled fire. And you say that I am crazy to think that with this controlled use of fire human beings will travel to the Moon and back some day. You guys just don’t have any imagination.

    • Omega Z

      Nice to see you understand the difference in continuous & peek demand. Many don’t take this into account. Including those in the research field. However, to be fair, The researchers base their numbers on large scale Central Distribution. But they still miss the mark.

      A 1Gwh/E requires 3Gwh/H at a 1/3 conversion to be equivalent.
      Combine all present power plants & multiply by 3
      Multiply that by 4 to meet all future needs.
      All Based on a Central Distribution system where load shifting & Balance is involved. Move all this to Private homes without load shift & Balance & multiply again by about 3 and a Battery Rack to boot.

      And None of this includes Any transportation, Desalination or other new uses such as greenhouse growing.

      And Fossil fuels will still be needed in the 50% range 40 years from now. When the rest of the World catches up & needs additional feed stocks. Oil, Gas, & Coal are also used in many areas other then Fuels, fertilizers, plastics & chemicals & tho not to a large extent, That will increase as other economies grow. In Fact all 3 are Vital in producing the metals & other materials needed for the E-cats & all the extras required for electrical Generation. Without them, E-cats will never be produced.
      Some will even be used to produce CO2 for enhanced plant growth in those greenhouses. Just as it is now.

      So Fossil fuels aren’t going anywhere. In fact, there will still be concern of them running out as at present, we have no real alternatives to them in the quantity we’ll need. E-cats will merely help preserve them so they’ll last longer.

  • Daniel Maris

    Don’t if this has been mentioned before – it looks like it might be relevant to Rossi’s research and other LENR phenomena. What do the physicists and chemists among us think?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131114142209.htm

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Tesla-scale nanoscale magnetic fields might in principle be possible, in the sense that such fields could arise from motion of electrons within one atomic monolayer. But as stated in the link, one needs a mechanism where generation of such fields is energetically favourable – in other words, the system must be able to lower its electrostatic energy more than it increases its magnetic energy. Whether or not B-fields of any type would be favourable for triggering LENR is another question.

  • Gordon Docherty

    Dear Rick,

    great set of points. A couple of extra comments:

    Point 5 Internet Server Farms – heat from LENR and servers can go to local CHP system

    Point 19 Aviation – use of distributed LENR systems for:
    a. direct electricity generation for local power – lights, cooking, etc.
    b. heat – I always think most aircraft are too cold
    c. electric fan jets / propellers / (3D) impellers
    d. jet / rocket engines – water as fuel, converted (near) in-situ to hydrogen / oxygen – avoids problems of engine fouling due to volcanic ash or bird strikes

    AND no kerosine (just water), much increasing the safety of aircraft even in a crash situation. Further, due to massive weight reduction / increase in power, aircraft can be made much stronger to survive much higher impact speeds. Also, if the plane does come down somewhere hard to reach, eCat system can keep on powering radios / transmitters / beacons for a long time after the initial incident – make them plug an play compatible across the aircraft (unlike Apollo 13 air scrubbers), and it would even be possible to salvage an eCat from one part of the plane to power another…or an on-board life-raft system Better than being fried alive in a kerosine fire or lost without hope of rescue in a remote wilderness…

    Point 19 alone should be a persuasive argument for building round LENR technology as soon as possible: a new line of super-safe, super-fast, super-strong, air/space/water vehicles (with no leaky fuel lines).

    Point 26. Distributed power systems can degrade more gracefully (fail soft, rather than just fail safe), so keeping the lights on, systems powered, information flowing, heat going and, hopefully, water clean) both during and after earthquakes, hurricanes and other large scale events.

  • bachcole

    I like Rossi keeping as much profits as possible so that he will become rich and famous and powerful. I like this because I believe in a limited meritocracy balanced with pure democracy. Capitalism provides this for us. But, as usual, we have to make an effort to keep it all in balance. Without balance, it all goes to $H!T.

    • Charles

      I’m okay with Rossi becoming rich and famous but I don’t dig the powerful part. We have too many powerful people already: bankers, politicians, illuminati.

      • bachcole

        Charles, I am glad that you have joined me in this discussion. Among the powerful, we could certainly use new blood. And LENR will topple many of the old school powerful. Look at how enlightened many of the Silicon Valley and other new bloods powerful are. New blood is vital. Toppling is vital. LENR will increase self-reliance, which is very valuable.

      • cliff

        I also hope that this helps break the crony capitalism that has resulted in a distribution of money from the poor and middle class to the ultra rich. No matter how much they have, it’s never enough. Corruption is an addiction, and power is it’s drug and money is it’s prize.

        I don’t think Rossi is out for power. Otherwise, he would have kept everything in his own control. I think he’s an inventor who wants to see his invention spread as far and wide as possible. I think Rossi wants to be compensated for his sacrifice of time and treasure, not to mention his intellectual property and rightly so, but power? I don’t think so.

        I hope this availability of heat and possible electrical power decentralizes more and more of the political power just like the internet did. This is a great time to be alive, isn’t it?

    • cliff

      You believe in a meritocracy balanced with pure democracy? Really?

      Who takes care of those less able or less ambitious who don’t merit a lot? It used to be charity, which worked pretty well, but now people seem to think it should be government which always botches it, because government is power and force, not charity.

      Pure democracies always fail for various reasons, but before they do, they ALWAYS oppress minorities and the weak. There must be ways to protect the minorities built into a constitution. Division of power is one way, along with representative government. Pure democracy, which is one man and one vote for everything only works in small, relatively homogeneous groups where there are no minorities. Also, do you really want all citizens, no matter how ignorant they might be to vote on everything? How are you even going to do that?

      Don’t get me wrong, socialism is worse than any other form of government because it centralizes power in the hands of a few who think they can make decisions for everyone else. Eventually, they become like royalty and a lot of people die. Look at North Korea. So, I advocate a republic with division of powers rather than pure democracy. By the way, when someone says the US is a democracy, it just makes me shake my head, because it is not.

      Also, Rossi has made no indication that he’s keeping as much profits as possible for himself. He’s working with a corporation and now he’s chief scientist. He’ll probably become rich, who knows? But powerful? I doubt it’s in his DNA. He wants to bring his baby to market. He wants to do something good for mankind. He’s an inventor, not a dictator.

      • Christina

        I agree with Cliff about Mr. Rossi. He just wants to safely bring the E-Cat to market so that no one is hurt by it and he and the company he picked can bring it to the world and make profits so they can pay themselves, their employees, and produce more E-Cats.

  • GregL

    Quite a few of those applications require instantaneously variable output – something that e-cat cannot manage currently. Hours are needed to turn on/off.

    To allow for variable power, e-cat will have to be matched with an appropriate energy storage that can hold a couple of hours of useable energy – eg 150 kwh battery for an automotive application. This will add considerably to the size/cost/complexity, and so restrict the list of likely applicatuions

    • Charles

      If EESTOR ever comes through, a backpack on the e-cat will take care of instantaneous.

      • cliff

        Pretty big backpack. You’re talking about using the ecat to charge the battery and using the battery to run things. A small battery won’t do the trick for automotive, it’s big and heavy. Hopefully, EEStor and other super capacitors will come on line shortly which should be smaller, safer, lighter, less expensive and more environmentally friendly, but they are vaporware so far. Even with them, you’re talking about a bigger and more expensive battery than the ecat.

        • Charles

          No cliff, not big. I was just referring to a temporary boost until the e-cat output can be elevated. You know, just filling in the momentary dips, smoothing it out, that sort of thing. Always, the primary power source should be the e-cat.

          Apparently we don’t know enough about the physics yet to really control the output. As I have previously expostulated, learning enough of the physics to properly sample and use Control System Theory to regulate the output to fit the input order is a critical, and probably not yet understood or applied, principle.

  • gbas3 gbas3

    It’s important too a water depuration and also connecting to treatment of waste.

    • cliff

      Think about the new ways of waste treatment that might be available now that they have relatively cheap, continuous energy. This could be a game changer for waste treatment as well as desalinization!

  • Bruce Williams

    Dear Rick, thank you for your great contributions to this extremely important subject. You must have spent some time compiling these reflections,a great effort !I am forwarding this note to a Science Editor of a well-known UK Newspaper.