‘Cures’ Posting on Cobraf Forum Again

It’s hard to get any information from people who have worked on the ‘inside’ with Andrea Rossi, but one notable example is an engineer who goes by the handle of ‘cures’ on the Italian science forum Cobraf.com. It has been established that this poster is in fact an engineer named Domenico Fioravanti who has worked on Rossi’s Italian team during the time when testing was taking place in Bologna and Ferrara during 2011 and 2012. He acted as the agent of the military customer who ordered the famous October 28 2011 test of the E-Cat in Bologna.

Cures had stopped posting for quite a long time, but now has made a number comments during the month of September about Rossi and the E-Cat. It appears, however, that his work with Rossi is over. E-Cat research and development seems to all be taking place in the United States now, and so it’s likely we won’t get too much news from Cures. He does, however have substantial history and experience with the E-Cat, and is fully convinced of its validity. His current comments

Here’s a link to some of his current comments in which he addresses technical and historical aspects of the E-Cat with which he is quite familiar. The forum is in Italian, and Google translated comments into English are a bit difficult to follow — but not impossible.

http://cobraf.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=5747&reply_id=123534385#123534385

  • Omega Z

    In a couple of Cures posts, translate shows, Father/Dad.
    This should be partner.

  • artefact

    Infinite-Energy ISSUE 111, September/October 2013

    Cold Fusion at NI Week 2013
    Dennis Cravens and Rod Gimpel

    http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf

    • Anonymole

      Would be nice to know of Cravens’ mental path by which he came up with the fairly elaborate concoction that was present in the warmer sphere. No doubt many influences were in place. I just wonder how he arrived at that particular combination.

  • fortyniner

    Cures seems to say at one point that the October demo of the 1MW unit (self sustaining) was plagued by instabilities caused by vapour locking, and that this resulted from coolant flow issues and gasket failure rather than any inherent instability of the modules. I think we kinda knew that.

    Apart from that there doesn’t seem to be much new to glean.

    • Italo R.

      The most important thing he witness is that the “Rossi Effect” is really real!
      I think that instability has been now solved through R&D

    • Omega Z

      Peter

      My understanding of the October tests.

      Twas the Water Flow being used to control core temps & preventing runaway/meltdown during self sustain mode.

      Rossi had calibrated each E-cat individually for water flow.
      Therein was the primary problem with the test.

      In series, this flow & pressure rate was different from what individual units would require. Thus this caused instability with some cores.

      Without maintaining enough water flow/pressure, the water in contact with the core would/was able to flash to steam.->Something that would be suppressed under pressure. Causing Vapor Lock.

      This all occurred 1 hour into the test when self sustain mode started. According to Cures, over half the E-cats were shut down.
      So according to this info, The E-cats still operating did meet expectations of 10Kw each.

      • fortyniner

        Mmm – if the cells were rigged for series flow, that really was asking for trouble. It’s a sort of basic tenet when designing this type of system to always use feedback control, rather than preset values which inevitably come unglued. You wouldn’t have thought it was beyond Rossi to have used simple mechanical thermostatic flow control valves on the outlet of each cell, set to restrict flow below the target coolant temp. and to open progressively above it.

        It would also be fairly basic hydraulic engineering to have ensured that there was always an upward escape path for vapour or entrained air to some kind of closed header tank fitted with an automatic vent – perhaps Rossi should have hired a central heating engineer (as they like to call themselves) to design his system!

        • Omega Z

          @ Peter

          This is just a basic explanation. Story behind the story. DGT was to provide payments per progression. They mist the 1st, then mist the second scheduled payment in July I think. The Agreement with DGT feel apart shortly after.

          Bottom line. Rossi was broke working on a shoestring budget. According to Cures, Rossi was still doing trial & error builds. Make 1, try it, Etc, to find optimal design. Normal for something totally new, but very expensive. Also Rossi was pretty much a 1 man show at that time. He had little time to research available valves & pumps. He made do with what he could find available close by.

          Cures helped track down off the shelf products for the rebuild after the test More suited to the job. Rossi was still broke at that time thus the failure to follow thru with the Unibo arrangement. Delayed delivery/rebuild caused delayed payment from customer.

          Cures also stated that Rossi is in good spirits now. State of the art Lab & toys for measurements.

          Rossi is busy optimizing the Cat to fit existing Turbines rather then completely redesigning Turbines for the Cat. Only then will they bring in Turbine Manufacture(s) to modify the Turbines if necessary.
          He said probably about 1 1/2 years to working system from day Zero.

          I’m assuming day Zero was a couple months ago. Also he mentioned a 6 month leeway for problems. So 1 1/2 plus 6 or 1 plus 6. Wasn’t clear.

          Bringing in Turbine manufactures was vague. Does this mean Rossi’s partner doesn’t produce turbines themselves?

          Added, Sounds as tho They have multiple units under testing to reduce R&D time.

          • fortyniner

            Thanks – interesting background. I hadn’t appreciated that Rossi was so close to the line, but nevertheless, a trip to his local ‘PlumbCenter’ or equivalent before lashing up the prototype might have been in order. Thermostatic valves and AAVs are the basic fodder of the central heating industry, and are relatively inexpensive.

            If AR’s partner doesn’t produce power plants (something I’ve always assumed to have been his obvious choice) then the task of building a ‘retro-fit’ boiler to match an existing popular turbine/alternator design will be many times more difficult than otherwise. Just changing over a power station to a new type of coal furnace while keeping the same turbines (a project I was involved with at one time as a technical author) can take several years. I hope that the partner at least has close ties to a power system manufacturer, or we could be in for a very long wait (at least as far as Rossi is concerned).

  • georgehants

    Amazing how science can show at the drop of a hat that when it suits them black is white.
    When it comes to Cold Fusion etc. just an opinion from the priests is enough to dismiss any Evidence and possible Research for generations.
    ——
    Michael Harper for redOrbit.com – Your Universe Online
    In a bit of strange and unprecedented good news, it was recently discovered Antarctic sea ice is growing at record rates. This is definitely odd, of course, because the air and the oceans have been getting warmer in the area.
    There is now more sea ice in Antarctica than there had been in the 1970s, a data point which University of Washington (UW) researcher Jinlun Zhang wanted to unpack and investigate. According to his National Science Foundation-funded research, global warming might be responsible for this record increase of sea ice. This is particularly ironic considering those who disagree with global warming often use this exponential increase as an argument against climate change.
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112951132/sea-ice-growth-global-warming-091813/

    • Hope4dbest

      It would be hard to argue with satellite pictures taken at the same time of the year.

    • Omega Z

      George

      It was swamp gas, Not a UFO & it was caused by Global Warming which reflected of the clouds causing a mirror image of the Sun to be reflect in the dark of night.

      Or as 1 Scientist said. If we go into an Ice Age, It’s because of Global Warming. WTF.

    • Thinks4Self

      It is all about greed George. As we age the idealism and certainty of youth fades. A persons values and integrity become more mutable specially where making a living is concerned. Many of these scientists that are leading charge of the AGW brigade are nearing the end of the careers and just want to make enough to survive into and through retirement. Fossil fuels are not completely harmless and when adding the environmental damage that often occurs when obtaining them telling what they likely consider white lies about the effects of using fossil fuels become easier and easier.

  • georgehants

    Farsnews Agency
    Nanocrystal Catalyst Transforms Impure Hydrogen into Electricity
    Now, scientists at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Brookhaven National Laboratory — in research published online September 19, 2013 in the journal Nature Communications — have created a high-performing nanocatalyst that meets all these demands. The novel core-shell structure — ruthenium coated with platinum — resists damage from carbon monoxide as it drives the energetic reactions central to electric vehicle fuel cells and similar technologies
    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920628000195