Ecat.com Updates Website (New Hot Cat Info and Pictures)

This may not be the most incredible news out there, but it may have some significance in terms of what it could mean.
Ecat.com is an ‘official’ e-cat site, because it is run by the Swedish Hydro Fusion company, who are licensees for E-Cat products in northern Europe. Today they updated their web site and made this announcement:

ECAT.com has migrated over to a new and robust server in order to meet future demands. New visual design, updated content and integrated with social media platforms. We hope you’ll like it!

A few days ago the company posted some tweets on their Twitter account saying such things as, “We know what’s coming…can you feel the excitement? It’s close now…” — which could be references to the 3rd party report.

Now they update their site and server in preparation for ‘future demands’. I wish they would say what they are anticipating.

UPDATE:

Thanks to those who have found new pictures of what is described as the ‘hot cat prototype’ which on this page is described as such:

Fuel

  • ECAT Solid Fuel including Leonardo corp. proprierty Hydrogen Tablets
  • Drive; Electricity and/or Natural Gas

COP

  • Under development (2-10 showed in various tests

Temperature

  • Operational Temperature Range:
  • 350 – 1050 °C

 

hot cat  1

hot cat 2

  • Linda

    Exciting!

  • George N

    Ok, I’m liking the vibe of these grapevine reports, 3 years I think is adequate to get from working example to full proof of concept. Let’s get this rolling and not over engineer too much! (although I am just a spectator, I understand the need to get it right out of the gate in order to avoid end user complications and opening up one’s self to competitive opportunities — but announcing the new LENR effect too early is the result of this fan based impatience!)

  • Mcloki

    These look very real. No photoshop. Things are getting interesting.

  • Gika

    can anyone see the H2 acces????

  • Omega Z

    Two Hot-Cats Side by side.

    Flange ring for mounting. Possibly fluid heating tests.

    Found on Cobraf…

    http://www.cobraf.com/showimage.php?image=/forum/immagini/R_123524960_1.jpg

    • Roger Bird

      Rossi’s head. Notice that one is darker, like it has been through a lot of heat. Also notice that he has prefab cells, not the funky things with tin foil wrapping. And it looks like 537 degrees.

    • George N

      +1 for the comb over! Almost qualifies for the “mad scientist” designation!

  • Ake

    From very good source in Sweden, something we all wait for will arrive quite soon with positive conclusion.

    • http://www.e-catworld.com admin

      Thanks for reporting.

    • Fibb

      Now that’s the kind of birdie talk we like hear about! Just like at the old theeestory.com.

      BTW my friends…. stayed tuned for something interesting coming out of EEStor on May 27th.

      Go Rossi! Go Weir! Go (away) the ICE!

    • Luca Salvarani

      Dear Ake

      Thank you; What do you mean for quite soon?

    • H. Hansson

      Åke, When the eCat saga started we got the first “soon”. Actually, much of the information have been proven wrong or even false that no publications even dear to write or make comments about it.. However, as the concept “soon” is very much based on cultural understanding, “soon” can in some cultures be like “never” and in other “next week” or even “days”. The “soon” statements is useless. What counts for me is the few tests made in front of trained yes (Swedish professors).

  • http://www.zazzle.com/energyrevolution Tony McDougall

    Hot Cat approaching meltdown? 😉

    http://tinyurl.com/cdmw5lm

    • Thinks4Self

      That appears to be the leaked photo enhanced with Photoshop or other image editing tool. If you zoom in to about 500% you can see tell tale editing artifacts.

      • Roger Bird

        I thought that it was supposed to be a joke. Notice that the white hot sphere inside the cylinder is now the sign for “nuclear”.

        • Thinks4Self

          You must be laugh riot to watch clouds go by with. I don’t see a nuclear emblem or even a mushroom cloud.

          • Roger Bird

            The white sphere in the middle of the cylinder is changed from the original picture. It is not solid. The only thing that I could figure out was that it was a nuclear emblem. Otherwise what does “Hot Cat approaching meltdown? ;)” mean?

  • manuelo

    What is the name of the person whose hand is being shown?
    Who (manufacturer, trader) provided this blue pyrometer to whom and when?

    • Omega Z
      • Roger Bird

        On my computer that picture comes up way too big for my screen. But I accidentally discovered that if I left click the entire picture and drag the mouse (the one in my hand, not the one in the E-Cat), that I get a really nice clear picture. I am on LinuxMint, so it may not work for you.

  • Roger Bird

    Your “Manage Subscription” page does not seem to be working. It is stuck not sending me the box to subscribe to this page.

  • Roger Bird

    I’m sorry, I’m getting excited again, and there is still no third party confirmation. How naughty of me to get excited. 808 degrees C. Nice pictures too. Not blurry or distant or anything. In fact, they were probably taken too close for me to have wished that I was standing that close. Happy, happy, happy . . . .

  • Chris I

    Well, that seems to be a handheld optical pyrometer and there’s a whiff of a decimal point so it seems to be reading 808.1 which is reasonable for the visible blackbody radiation. For a thing of that size, this itself makes for several kW of thermal power being dissipated. That’s about as far as we can tell by the picture.

    All that’s left is to know what elextric power is going in through that pair of wires.

    • Joaquim Procopio

      I don´t believe an object of that size could glow only from the electrical current provided by those relatively thin wires. My guess is that at least 100 amps would be required to do that and those wires do not look as carrying that amount of current.

      • Chris I

        At least 100 amps… at 1V? That would tot up to 100W, not nearly sufficient! 😀

        Those wires could easily be carrying 20A or more and there could easily be a kV or two RMS between them. For all we know, that is. Now, where’s that voltmeter I had in my toolcase? Hey! Andrea! What’s that you’re making off with! Bring it back here!

      • Andre Blum

        very much depends on the voltage. at 240V or 400V I see no problem for these wires to supply 5 kW or so.

        • Thinks4Self

          It is Amps not Volts that cause heating. So the question becomes is there enough room inside the Hotcat to change the high voltage to a high amp load? And would that transformer survive being enclosed in a 800 C container?

          • Andre Blum

            true.

            • Chris I

              no
              false

          • saclamb

            Au contraire! Heating is due to energy transfer, which is power integrated over time. In this case, power is calculated as either I^2R or VI. You may be tempted to believe that in the case of I^2R, the current is the only important factor, but obviously, the power is also proportional to resistance. Consider the case of a 10KV supply pushing 1A though a 10K resistor. Heating = 1 * 1 * 10000, or 10KW

          • Chris I

            Right so I’ve finally found the way to reduce my electric bills, since my water heater is the fattest contributor to them, despite my great care to avoid an even higher cost. All I have to do is get a good, efficient transformer with a secondary that gives me the same required current at a far lower voltage. So the primary would be drawing a very low current.

            You see, electric companies are so dumb as to bill according to V times I times cos-phi. The third factor is 1 on a pure resistive load. Perhaps I could get them to supply me at a far lower voltage in the first place, and charge accordingly less for the same current. At that point, we could all forget about this LENR thing and just get away with paying a lot less for heating, just by using a much lower voltage.

            Why not?

  • http://- hitcher

    when i look at the picture of the red glowing E-CAT, i only see it run when idling around! Under full load, it should still glow dark red when 1m under water, which it should heat up to overheated 500°C steam. Therefore it would need much more power.

    So, why not put it into a deep water vessel and let it glow red there?

    • Kim

      Scanned in on it with photoshop
      it definitely reads 808 C.

      Respect
      Kim

      • artefact

        thx

  • Adam Lepczak

    Per Ecat group on FB:
    Noticed from vortex: Passerini has put up a coded message this morning, a list of 15 names and sentences “What is the thread that connects these people with each other and the FPE? Answer: 3+6+2+1+3=15 and is 10 hours 54 minutes by car to the new world of new energy.”

    His names are:
    1. Robert Duncan, Prorettore per la ricerca University of Missouri (USA)
    2. Michael McKubre, SRI – Stanford Research International (USA)
    3. Graham Hubler, Direttore Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance (USA)
    4. Stefano Concezzi, Vice Presidente National Instruments (USA)
    5. P.J. King, CEO ReResearch (Ireland))
    6. Konrad Czerski, Università di Szczecin (Poland), Technische Universität Berlin (Germany)
    7. Vittorio Violante, Università Roma2 Tor Vergata, Centro Ricerche Frascati ENEA
    8. Antonio La Gatta, Presidente TSEM Engineering and Electronics
    9. Andrea Aparo, Università Roma1 Sapienza, Politecnico di Milano, Ansaldo Energia
    10. Enrico Paganini, ENEL Green Power
    11. Giovanni Lelli, Commissario ENEA
    12. Aldo Pizzuto, Responsabile Unità Tecnica Fusione ENEA
    13. Massimo Busuoli, Responsabile ENEA EU – Liaison Office
    14. Herbert Von Bose, Direttore sotto-Commissione Industrial Technologies del Parlamento europeo
    15. Amalia Sartori, Presidente Comissione ITRE del Parlamento europeo

    Maybe it means that these are the 3rd party testers and a report is published this evening. But I cannot guess what the equation means which sums up to the number of people.

    “Any real scientist is more despised and feared than respected” (Jed Rothwell)

    • Suncore

      People attending the ENEA FPE meeting, I guess. See the story coming after this one.

  • Gérard2013

    I am warm hands to applaud Mr Rossi.

  • hador_nyc

    Woah did you catch the latest pics on the site?!?!!? 1MW plant pics look even better!!!!

    http://ecat.com/ecat-products/ecat-1-mw/

    • Pachu

      They are old.

  • Zeddicus Zul Zorander

    So I was right:
    “The really great new website will be online at any moment now?”
    (http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/what-do-they-know-at-ecat-com/)

    Now I’m off to play the lottery…

  • Blanco69

    I See the COP for the Hot Cat is listed as between 2-10. Sounds like the boys at Hydrofusion had the same issues with COP calc’s that we had. Fantastic images though.

    • Omega Z

      The COP will vary as to whether they operate it in SSM or not.
      One Of Rossi’s disclosures last fall should a COP between 2 & 3, but was only run in drive mode. Not SSM.

      • Bob

        I know that’s what the reported hotcat figures suggest but I find that hard to understand It means that when you turn the activator off, it will just get hotter and hotter until it self destructs.
        How do you shut it down then?
        What happens if the power goes off and you can’t power up the activator to shut it off?
        How does powering up the activator start the reaction and also stop the reaction?
        I’m not saying it isn’t possible but I am saying it’s more than a bit strange.

        • Omega Z

          Bob

          “What happens if the power goes off and you can’t power up the activator to shut it off?”

          Exactly why Rossi says you can’t self loop the system. Nuclear Power plants are the same. They need external power source.

          Strange Operation, Actually makes E-cats more likely. Who would portray something that’s illogical.

  • http://www.electric-sailing.fi Pekka Janhunen

    Noticed from vortex: Passerini has put up a coded message this morning, a list of 15 names and sentences “What is the thread that connects these people with each other and the FPE? Answer: 3+6+2+1+3=15 and is 10 hours 54 minutes by car to the new world of new energy.”

    His names are:
    1. Robert Duncan, Prorettore per la ricerca University of Missouri (USA)
    2. Michael McKubre, SRI – Stanford Research International (USA)
    3. Graham Hubler, Direttore Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance (USA)
    4. Stefano Concezzi, Vice Presidente National Instruments (USA)
    5. P.J. King, CEO ReResearch (Ireland))
    6. Konrad Czerski, Università di Szczecin (Poland), Technische Universität Berlin (Germany)
    7. Vittorio Violante, Università Roma2 Tor Vergata, Centro Ricerche Frascati ENEA
    8. Antonio La Gatta, Presidente TSEM Engineering and Electronics
    9. Andrea Aparo, Università Roma1 Sapienza, Politecnico di Milano, Ansaldo Energia
    10. Enrico Paganini, ENEL Green Power
    11. Giovanni Lelli, Commissario ENEA
    12. Aldo Pizzuto, Responsabile Unità Tecnica Fusione ENEA
    13. Massimo Busuoli, Responsabile ENEA EU – Liaison Office
    14. Herbert Von Bose, Direttore sotto-Commissione Industrial Technologies del Parlamento europeo
    15. Amalia Sartori, Presidente Comissione ITRE del Parlamento europeo

    Maybe it means that these are the 3rd party testers and a report is published this evening. But I cannot guess what the equation means which sums up to the number of people.

    “Any real scientist is more despised and feared than respected” (Jed Rothwell)

    • http://www.electric-sailing.fi Pekka Janhunen

      (About 22passi message this morning)
      Maybe it refers to an Italian workshop “New energy for a new world” to be held on June 2, at least a link in his text points to that announcement. But I do not know what the 15 names are.

      (This is a reply to my earlier message which is waiting in moderation)

      • AB

        It refers to an event in Brussels actually.

        New advancements on the Fleischmann-Pons Effect:
        paving the way for a potential new clean renewable energy source?

        Monday, 3 June 2013 from 16:30 to 18:45,
        Room Jozsef Antall 6Q1
        European Parliament – Brussels

        http://utagri.enea.it/news/bruxelles/prossimi-eventi-bruxelles-2

        • artefact

          Machine translation:
          “June 03, 2013, Brussels. New advancements on the Fleischmann-Pons Effect: paving the way for a potential new clean renewable energy source? Event co-organized by AENEAS at the European Parliament. With the patronage of the On. Amalia Sartori, Chair of the ITRE Committee c/o European Parliament, the event can be seen among the participants the Commissioner ENEA John Lelli, the Director of the Industrial Technologies Directorate Herbert von Bose, the Director of the Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance (USA) Graham Hubler, and Vice-chancellor for research, University of Missouri (USA) Robert Duncan.”

        • Gerrit

          So …

          Graham Hubler and Robert Duncan will be discussing LENR with ENEA and European Commission.

          Maybe that indicates that SKINR has produced good experimental evidence ?

          The meeting could be about a european participation in the SKINR research efforts. The european cooperation could be lead by ENEA and funded by European commission.

          That sounds interesting. I really wish a science reporter would do some investigation of what is going on and publish about this.

        • Gerrit

          Brussels is about 11 hours drive by car from italy. Which city does Passerini live in ?

          • Chris I

            Not so far from Bologna to make a huge difference by Autostrada (and then Autobahn).

            Perhaps the 54 minutes are his average time for getting onto the ring-arounb-bologna…?

          • Gerrit

            Passerini was referring to the route from Galzignano (padua italy) to Bruxelles – according to google maps: 10 hours and 51 minutes.

            in Galzignano will be a meeting about LENR on June 2nd.
            In bruxelles will be a meeting with european commission on June 3rd

            Maybe some of the people in the list are participating in one of these two meetings, maybe in both of them.

            • Chris I

              Do you have any info for enquiries about attending at Galzignano?

              I’m right smack in Padova and I would consider going if I can. I’m sure that even my old tin can will be loyal enough to get me there and back.

        • LCD

          If its paving the way for a “possible” new energy source it doesn’t sound that “convincing”

      • Chris I

        “Answer: 3+6+2+1+3=15 and is 10 hours 54 minutes by car to the new world of new energy.”

        So, all considered, it appears that the event scheduled for 03-06-2013, with the 15 listed participants, will be an 11 hour drive from Daniele’s hometown. By thread he means nexus, of course. Great snooping, Pekka and AB!

        Non-machine translation:

        This event is co-organized by ENEA at the European Parliament. Under auspices of the Hon. Amalia Sartori, Chair of the ITRE committee at the European Parliament, the event envisions, among its participants, the ENEA Commissioner Givanni Lelli, the Director of the Industrial Technologies Directorate Herbert Von Bose, the director of the Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance (USA) Graham Hubler, and the vice-chancelor for research, University of Missouri (USA) Robert Duncan.

      • LCD

        lol
        I guess we have yet another date to look forward to

        but if it is at all connected with the ecat report I have to believe we would know about that in advance and pretty soon.

    • Gerrit

      Amalia Sartori is the Chairwoman of Industry, Research and Energy (ITRE) Committee

      Committee responsible for:

      1- the Union’s industrial policy and the application of new technologies, including measures relating to SMEs;
      2- the Union’s research policy, including the dissemination and exploitation of research findings;
      3- space policy;
      4- the activities of the Joint Research Centre and the Central Office for Nuclear Measurements, as well as JET, ITER and other projects in the same area;
      5- Community measures relating to energy policy in general, the security of energy supply and energy efficiency including the establishment and development of trans-European networks in the energy infrastructure sector;
      6- the Euratom Treaty and Euratom Supply Agency; nuclear safety, decommissioning and waste disposal in the nuclear sector;
      7- the information society and information technology, including the establishment and development of trans-European networks in the telecommunication infrastructure sector.

      This is the right address within the european commission to discuss LENR topics.

      • Chris I

        It strikes me the whole list of 15 are important roles. Absolutely incouraging!

  • Peter Roe

    The site seems rather slow loading, and screen size detection doesn’t always work properly. I see the that the ‘news’ that they couldn’t confirm the output of the ‘hot cat’ seems to have finally disappeared. That was distinctly weird for a supposed marketing agent.

    Edit – I see that Fibb has already noted this change.

    • Peter Roe

      Careless of them to leave it on the HF site though (see Fibbs comment below).

    • lenrdawn

      “That was distinctly weird for a supposed marketing agent.”

      It really was. However simply removing it without any explanation is at least equally weird. What changed? Have they got a positive test now? Did they decide to simply forget about it?

    • Ivone Martin FitzGerald

      The site is not slow loading. It appeared as quick as the proverbial flash.

  • lenrdawn

    They’ve got something like 600 visitors a day and are ranked somewhere around the 800 thousands place (which gives the domain a net worth of less than 20 US$). So looking at it from that perspective, they could hardly expect LESS traffic.

  • Omega Z

    It would appear that they are preparing for an Uptick in Activity.

    We Should NOTE: It Features the Hot Cat.

    Brought to you by the Swedes that had a dispute over the COP in October,2012.

    • captain

      Sweden’s HydroFusion is interested to supply ASAP the new hot plants in Sweden: IMO they will be the first country to have a lot of working 1MW plants, with or without USPTO approval.

  • Torbjörn
    • Stew

      BTW I am always impressed how professional and reliable the stand for this protoype looks. 😛

    • artefact

      it glows so nice!

    • artefact

      see the color. It glows less then in Rossis last picture and is already at 808.1 C if I see correct. The “super glow” hot cat must have way hotter.

      • Omega Z

        artefact

        Yes, I suspect it was around 1000`C in those photos.
        Those were stress tests pushed to the Limit.

      • Bob

        I think they need to send their IR thermometer in for re-calibration. From the colour in that picture (which has a more normal exposure so the colour is probably accurate) I would estimate the device at around 450 deg C.

        • Bob

          Pardon my replying to my own post, but I wonder if their IR thermometer is set on degrees fahrenheit? That would come out to 431 deg C. I could believe 808 deg F.
          I can’t read the small icons on the display so I can’t check it.

          • Thinksforself

            Zooming in with my tablet it appears to be reading in C. Color on a digital photo is not always reliable, reds tend to be understated on average.

          • Omega Z

            Bob

            You have to allow for the black body paint. It suppresses the color. Substantially.

        • Blanco69

          Agreed. Maybe it was calibrated in Fahrenheit (unusual for Europeans) 413 deg C.

        • Ecco the Dolphin

          Have you ever seen what is the color of volcanic lava in a sunny day?

    • Peter Roe

      I guess the item protruding from the central cavity (as was) with the square end (iron threaded stop end screwed into tube?) is the activator or ‘mouse’, coaxially mounted. It would have neen interesting to see where the 2 twisted-pairs of heat resistant flex connect at the other end.

  • elasticbucket

    A September 9 2012 is probably not the most upto date report as you have posted. Stale news unfortunately.

  • Fibb

    The new site doesn’t have a direct link to this scary press release http://hydrofusion.com/news/press-release at least that I can see.

    but the old hydrofusion one does, as found here… http://ecat.com/about/ click on hydrofusion.