Low Energy Transmutation of Carbon in a Microwave Oven?

A friend brought this video to my attention, and it show something people could try at home. This video shows an experiment in which a powdered carbon material (charcoal) is exposed to microwaves in a conventional microwave oven, and after 3 minutes or so demonstrates that it contains magnetic properties it did not have before being zapped.

Doing some more reading about this it seems that it is possible that the effect could be something other than carbon transmutating into iron oxide — since there is a known phenomenon that can make carbon magnetic. An article in Materialstoday.com explains:

Research has indicated that proton irradiation (i.e. hydrogen doping) of carbon can lead to the formation of ferromagnetic order. Scientists hypothesized that hydrogen atoms were incorporated into the graphite lattice during hydrogen doping, distorting the lattice and allowing the spins to align with each other.

I am not sure whether exposure to microwaves would allow such doping to occur. In the experiment above. I suppose that detailed laboratory analysis would be required to determine exactly what is going on here. Nevertheless, the experiment is quite interesting, and not beyond the scope of interested amateurs to carry out.

  • zzz

    This guy was fired from the hungarian Physics Research Institute because he started to deal with ball lightning phenomenon and other strange things, that was his mistake and that was the reason why they fired him for. His boss started to yelling at him and sent him away. He said, do you wanna ruin the reputation of the instituion?

    Anyway he worked in a nuclear power plant and win awards with not this but an advanced version.

    Unfortunately the offical science is shameless, the official scientist who are considered as real scientist are either totally stupid or get paid well to keep their mouths shut, because energy is a big business, interest. Anyone knows that, just take a look at the wars in the middle east.

    Unfortunatelly we do not know any thing about our world. I think we only know a little more then caveman ten thousand years ago in terms of the afterlife and physics, and energy.

    The most said thing is that the offical science and scientist are very arrogant, ignorant and agressive toward those who try to approach things in a different way, not their way. That is what bothering me the most. Of course this can be applied to everyone.

    As regards the experiment, the transmutation tested by the modernest procedure to prove that materials are really transformed. It showed that many materials created like magnesium, iron, palladium, silver.

    I think it is on the greentechnology website or http://www.ztka.hu/

  • GERARD

    A simple magnetic test to show that something is iron is not a schientific approach. You need better tools for that. Even before that you need to analyse the materials used as many readers already said. This is the approach of an amature: an Edisonarial experiment., as the pictures clearly show. However, it may trigger a scientist and lead to a real new development and show that LENR is real….

  • rolando

    From A.R

    Andrea Rossi
    March 24th, 2013 at 10:53 PM
    DEAR GEORGEHANTS:
    YOUR COMMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OPENS THE GATE FOR THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
    THE TESTS OF THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
    I DID NOT ATTEND, THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE RESULTS, THAT WILL SURELY BE PUBLISHED BY THE EXAMINATORS, PROBABLY AROUND THE HALF OF APRIL. I MET THE 11 PROFESSORS AND EXPERTS THAT MADE THE TESTS AND THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME ” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”. I COULD NOT GET MORE INFORMATION, BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE TO ELABORATE THE DATA TO PREPARE THE PUBLICATION. ALL THE PROFESSORS SAID THE TEST IS GONE WELL, VERY WELL. THE LAST TEST ENDED AFTER 120 HOURS OF UNINTERRUPTED OPERATION OF THE REACTORS ( THE NEW GENERATION OF HOT CATS IS MADE BY A TWO STAGE SYSTEM, MADE WITH AN ACTIVATOR WITH RESISTANCES COUPLED WITH A KIND OF CHARGE, WHICH ACTIVATES THE E-CAT WITH A DIFFERENT CHARGE). THE EFFECT IS STUNNING, WE SAW IN OUR PRIVATE TESTS, AND HAS BEEN REPLICATED BY THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY.
    NOW WE PASS TO THE INDUSTRIAL ENGAGEMENTS: WE HAVE TO DELIVER OUR PLANTS BY THE END OF APRIL.
    WARM REGARDS,
    ANDREA ROSSI

    • Jorge

      This sounds like wonderful news. Independent third party tests validating the technology is exactly what we needed. Tell me, is it too early to order the bubbly?
      Jorge

  • http://Revolution-Green.com Ken

    That’s crazy. So basically you can transmute through fusion in your own kitchen with a microwave? I’m going to dig a little deeper on this. If this is true then the physics community impact would be huge. Forget any beneficial products produced. The fact it’s even possible would break down any remaining barriers in the scientific regime to dust. It would force the scientific community to re-examine the laws of physics and actually pull their head out of the pork barrel it’s been stuck in for the last 100 years. LENR wouldn’t be a forbidden fruit any more. It would be something to earn a nobel with.

    Ken,
    Revolution-Green(.)com

  • http://www.nickelpower.org Bruce Fast

    I looked at this topic a while back: http://nickelpower.org/2012/03/03/home-lenr-experiment/

    Two interesting things were pointed out.
    First, it seems that carbon can be made magnetic: http://www.ferrocarbon.it/deliv_b.html
    Second, if this were an LENR reaction, then a heck of a whole lot more heat would be the result. Consider, for instance, that the hot e-cat theoretically puts out 1 megawatt of heat for six months before it needs a recharge.

    I believe that this is a red herring.

  • Iggy Dalrymple

    This isn’t fusion but here microwaving zinc oxide doped with aluminum produces improved thermo-electric material.

    ZnO is a promising high figure-of-merit (ZT) thermoelectric material for power harvesting from heat due to its high melting point, high electrical conductivity σ, and Seebeck coefficient α, but its practical use is limited by a high lattice thermal conductivity κL. Here, we report Al-containing ZnO nanocomposites with up to a factor of 20 lower κL than non-nanostructured ZnO, while retaining bulklike α and σ. We show that enhanced phonon scattering promoted by Al-induced grain refinement and ZnAl2O4 nanoprecipitates presages ultralow κ 2 Wm −1 K–1 at 1000 K. The high α −300 μV K–1 and high σ 1–104 Ω–1 m–1 result from an offsetting of the nanostructuring-induced mobility decrease by high, and nondegenerate, carrier concentrations obtained via excitation from shallow Al donor states. The resultant ZT 0.44 at 1000 K is 50% higher than that for the best non-nanostructured counterpart material at the same temperature and holds promise for engineering advanced oxide-based high-ZT thermoelectrics for applications. http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nl202439h

    • Iggy Dalrymple

      Another article on same subject:

      Volume 6, No. 1, January 20, 2012

      Quick-Cooking Nanomaterials for Tomorrow’s Solid-State Air Conditioners and Refrigerators

      Engineering researchers at Rensselaer have developed a new method for creating advanced nanomaterials that could lead to highly efficient refrigerators and cooling systems requiring no refrigerants and no moving parts. The key ingredients for this innovation are a dash of nanoscale sulfur and a normal, everyday microwave oven . . .

      http://www.rpi.edu/about/inside/issue/v6n1/microwave.html

    • http://Revolution-Green.com Ken

      Not sure how you gleened that from the article. I think it’s written in a language yet known to 99.999% of mankind. So they are saying it’s not fusion? The video in this post never mentions aluminum.

      Ken,
      Revolution-Green(.)com

  • Jouni Tuomela

    Please look at http://greentechinfo.eu/
    A video about George Egely’s Dust Fusion here, 3 other films also in those pages. http://vimeo.com/38728471

    Standing sound waves seem to be key part in his experiments.

    Maybe Mr. Rossi is somehow also using standing waves to accomplish his effects?

    • Jim Anderson

      I’ve wondered the same thing.We know the reaction chamber size. I don’t know enough about physics or math but it maybe possible to compute the possible frequency of standing waves that would occur in the reaction chamber. I’ve seen postings suggesting terrahertz frequencies. The size of reaction chamber seems to be critical.

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  • georgehants

    PhysOrg
    Paint-on plastic electronics: Aligning polymers for high performance
    March 24, 2013
    Kim believes that the technique will work equally well with atomic-scale pen nibs or large trowel-like applicators for making electronics of all sizes such as LED displays or light-absorbing coatings for solar cells.
    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-03-paint-on-plastic-electronics-aligning-polymers.html#jCp

  • georgehants

    PhysOrg
    Scientists from the Nano-Science Center at the Niels Bohr Institut, Denmark and the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne, Switzerland, have shown that a single nanowire can concentrate the sunlight up to 15 times of the normal sun light intensity. The results are surprising and the potential for developing a new type of highly efficient solar cells is great.
    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-03-nanowire-solar-cells-efficiency-limit.html#jCp

    • buffalo

      if thers a way to do this without resorting to nanowires then you become an instant billionaire

  • carloluna

    osawa-kushi 1960

    CHEMISTRY’S DIRTY SECRET: simple alchemy
    Converting carbon into iron

    http://amasci.com/freenrg/carbiron.html

    http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep4/ep4alchem.htm

    • http://www.liberationtechnology.co.uk Dave Lawton

      Yes, I notice they use a graphite crucible, graphite is magnetic ,the graphite pencils I use are .So were does that leave these claims?

  • Peter Roe

    There was some discussion of this on a site called talk-polywell.org a few years ago, although the discussion seems to centre around cheap graphite found on ebay, which apparently contains iron. Lots of interesting links, plus results of some simple experiments are reported.

    http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3531&sid=c464fda38582defc9ebc7162e062e319

    Charcoal will contain various contaminants from the timber used to make it, but I would have thought that iron would be very low. Anyone got an old spectrometer lying around?

  • georgehants

    A very interesting subject if only scientists took note of the Fact that they do not have a clue to the answer and therefore every possibility is equally on the table.
    That means not just answers that are exceptable to the closed-minds and Dogma lovers, but all answers.
    If only our young scientists started off being taught the Truth about the World –
    We have no idea beyond a few little details about anything.
    ——
    What is nothing? Physicists debate
    By Clara Moskowitz, LiveScience
    http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/24/17441356-what-is-nothing-physicists-debate?lite

  • Kim

    If the Carbon that enters the microwave
    is 100% pure than it makes one wonder where the
    iron atoms are coming from.

    Iron oxide 1 and 2 are red and black respectively.

    Or is the carbon given magnetic property
    only?

    Does the magnatron contribute?

    Respect
    Kim

  • SolarSurfer

    Most likely this has nothing to do with transmutation but is either contamination or the re-discovery of the (not exactly new) ferromagnetic properties of fullerenes under certain conditions.

    • http://neotreksoftware.com Allan Shura

      The video says up to 5% was transmuted. If so then where would
      such a large amount of contamination appear from. Not just iron
      but magnesium and titanium unlikely be so hot as to be gaseous
      within the microwave.

      Are you suggesting the graphite became magnetic and the presence other elements
      was ignored before the experiment?

      • SolarSurfer

        I wasn’t there and cannot say how the experiment was done but you can tell from the video that this wasn’t a clean lab but somebody’s kitchen and the equipment used were kitchen utensils. Contamination is to be expected in such an environment – even if they wouldn’t use charcoal, which usually isn’t anything like pure carbon. The 5% is nothing but a wild guess and, as far as I can see, completely unfounded. Google magnetic properties of fullerenes and you’ll see that there was nothing there which would require the practically impossible transmutation chain (in an ordinary microwave oven, no less) leading from C to Fe and more than enough gamma emission to kill everybody in the building. I want Cold Fusion to be true as much as the next guy, but this just isn’t it.

      • http://www.liberationtechnology.co.uk Dave Lawton

        In the vidio he puts in a piece of graphite pencil lead which is magnetic.

  • Roger Bird

    I write as someone who does not worry about nor belief in human caused global warming (global warming, perhaps, human caused no). This is very positive, and be sure to check out the video. Notice that the guy has a production line and is presumably making money:

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/03/23/can-mushrooms-be-the-new-plastic/

    Oops, AB already cited it. I didn’t mean to steal your thunder, AB. Sorry about that. But this is worth two comments.

  • AB
    • http://robrites.blogspot.com Rob Lewis

      I saw a video somewhere probably a year ago, about Ford experimenting with stuff like this for things like seat padding.