Andrea Rossi Talks About E-Cat Production and Third Party Report on Tom and Doug Radio Show

I have just been contacted by Tom Florek of the Tom and Doug Radio Show who have recently conducted a new interview with Andrea Rossi. In the portion of the interview that can be viewed below, Andrea Rossi talks with Tom about the current situation with the production of the E-Cat. The show also includes a couple of Tom and Doug’s E-Cat songs, and some questions and answers from Tom and Doug’s listeners.

Tom informed me that the clip above is part of a larger interview which is still in the editing stages.

  • Energie ohne Kohle

    How much copper is needed to produce 1 kwh of heat with cop 10?

    • artefact

      The copper was an impurity from cutting the tube.
      At the moment the fuel is supposed to be the Lithium and the Hydogen.

      For the consumption: the fuel is about two gram for a 10 KW reactor. Of that amount only a fraction gets consumed in one year. Probably 10% of the fuel.

  • georgehants

    Scientific American
    Psychiatrists, Instead of Being Embarrassed by Placebo Effect, Should Embrace It, Author Says
    By John Horgan | March 12, 2013

  • John-64

    Comment system is broken. Replies seem to end up as first posts, not replies (or in at least one case, replies then first posts).

    • test

      seems to work for me 😉

  • Gerrit

    More info on the work done at SKINR @ MU

    The seven collaborative scientific groups within the SKINR matrix include:

    – High Intensity Ions Bombardment- Dr. John Gahl-Lead.
    – Low intensity Ions Bombardment and High Pressure Shock ways on Gas Loaded targets- Dr. Scott Kovaleski-Lead.
    – Development of Nano Structures on Metallic lattices- Dr.Shubhra Gangopadhyay-Lead.
    – Charged Nano Particles suspension- Dr. Kattesh Katti – Lead.
    – Neutron Scattering employing the MU Research Reactor (MURR) of loaded targets- Dr. Helmut Kaiser-Lead.
    – High Pressure Gas Loading- Dr. Peter Pfeifer-Lead.
    – Gas Loading Thermal Shock and Neutron Diamond detectors- Dr. Mark Prelas-Lead.

    Director of SKINR is Dr. Graham Hubler

  • captain kirk

    “This is typical behaviour for “alternative” energy/product sources. You just can’t trust what they say. So many broken promises.”

    Just “alternative energy/product sources”??? or most any new product promotion whether in alternative energy or selling financial services etc Think you can beat the stock market? Think again and buy index funds Think a 50% fat diet is bad…. wrong if its the right kind of fats it’s better than 50% carbs (sorry off topic but some of my other interests where I disagree with the vast majority of experts)

  • Leo Kaas

    Rossi said no more interviews back on November 13. Has something changed, is the 1 MW plant going to be presented to the public soon?

    “I am receiving many requests of interview in this period, and I am spamming all of them. This comment is the answer for all: I will not release any more interview of any kind until the 1 MW plant for civil use will be presented to the public”.

    • I hope so…

    • john29302

      Water for quatar? us americans are energy consumption freaks. water for quatar? isnt that the richest country per capita on earth? use is for real working devices. i wouldnt dream up uses for energy. i think its an after thought compared to energy consumtion here in U S of A. lets focus on the product.

  • GreenWin


    One immediate benefit of very low cost thermal energy will be its application to desalination. Presently Multi-Stage Flash & vapor pressure desal costs around $0.50/m3. With very low cost LENR thermal energy, $0.05/m3 is possible. Further, by building LENR co-generation power plants at coastline, waste heat from combined cycle turbines can be used for desalination.

    Countries with little or no fresh water like Quatar(<74mm/year rain) now produce 3.5M m3 of water annually. More importantly, with cost of electric energy around $0.01/kWh, pumping water to elevations such as Mexico City, and far inland areas (e.g. East Africa) becomes fiscally possible.

    Just a single application of abundant energy to look forward to. March 22 is World Water Day…

    • yamal

      i think most beneficial for mankind will be rossi’s program to help children with cancer. there will be many hundreds of billions in profit so there’s a good chance cancer will soon be a thing of the past.

      • Omega Z


        Rossi has stated that 50% of what (HE) makes off LENR will go for Cancer “treatment” bypassing as many of the middle people as possible. Thus minimizing the skimming of funds.
        This wont be applied to finding a Cure. This is another area of suppression in our Society. Cures are to final. Treatment just keeps on bringing in the money.

        As for how much Rossi will make off this technology. He’ll be very well off. But nothing near what many here speculate. The System doesn’t work that way unless you can keep the tech All to Yourself. For LENR, it’s to big for that. Rossi will be lucky to keep 2% of the Profits & that’s an Optimistic number.

      • Bigwilly

        Cancer cure suppression? Another conspiracy? How many interwoven conspiracies are there? I feel like I am left in the dark.


        • GreenWin

          Willy, I think Z refers to the probability that “cures” for disease terminate income potential for certain pillars of the medical industry.

      • Captain kirk

        I find one of the most despicable comments from psycho skeptics is a comment like this but since you obviously think Rossi is a fraud you also dislike the fact that he is playing on peoples emotions otherwise you wouldn’t be making comments like this

        • GreenWin

          Captain, do not feed the tro11 – they are voracious destroyers of good. It is not unheard for an inventor to donate a portion of his profit/wealth to a charitable cause. If we were to accuse every philanthropist of playing on people’s emotions, there would probably be less charitable giving in the world.

  • georgehants

    Of course what they are actually saying is for the past 11,300 years the Earth has been warmer than it is now 20 to 30% of the time.
    From The National Science Foundation.
    Press Release 13-037
    Earth Is Warmer Today Than During 70 to 80 Percent of the Past 11,300 Years.

    • Omega Z

      It’s what they don’t say that provides the Truth.

      I wonder what they pay people to come up with the proper spin to fit their agenda’s…

  • georgehants

    Very soon, one hopes, a certain third party report on Mr. Rossi’s endeavors will be published.
    If it is encouraging then the money flowing onto Cold Fusion will be unstoppable, if not then the substance of the report will show the situation that must be addresses to be clear if a practical high output system is on the horizon.
    This report is the catalyst that will Free Cold Fusion or at least put it in a better perspective.

    • rolando

      He needs the patent ASAP. Soon E-dog, E-Tiger, E-lion will fill the market if the flood fundings is rolling

      • e-dog

        Some mention my name???

        Hi All! Been a long time between rants. Hope eveyone is healthy and having a great year so far!

        Any real developments happened while I was away?… other than the usual bold statements??

        Like the new site Frank!


        • Third party measurements have been going on for months and are scheduled to end near end of March. After that the report should come out; when exactly, no one knows, but not before April I think. Robert Mockan (one poster here) seemed to vanish in November or so and hasn’t come back.

          • sempervivum


            Roberts insight and comments are sorely missed

            • buffalo

              the mystery case of robert would make a good lenr suspense novel or film.

              • Veblin

                He stopped posting on lenr blogs and deleted his web sites.
                He does seem to have a real name, address, phone, email, age, political contributions, etc.
                He does not seem to have an obituary.

                • Peter_Roe

                  I can’t find anything at all dating from after his disappearance from this blog towards the end of last year though. The domain was renewed for 2 years in May 2012 so the registration details will persist until May next year.

                • Veblin

                  I don’t feel it is my place to take it any further, but if someone really wants to know I would suggest.

                  Write a letter.
                  Make a phone call.
                  Send a email.
                  Go to Chatsworth.

    • Paolo

      At this stage, Lenr research is not a matter of money but of intelligence. It would important involve in this field the best minds, like in Project Manhattan for nuclear fission military applications. A third party report on E-Cat would definitely give strong credibility to this field, even if many stakeholders already know the truth on the reliability of this tecnology because in our society infos travel faster than wind. Also Nasa tested it secretely some time ago but they covered all information and the test itself for reasons that are well beyond normal people imagination: this is, however, the reason explaining why the Nasa chief scientist Dennis Bushnell is pro-Lenr, they tested the best tech available.

  • Rene Vega

    The link is
    Some of us prefer not to enable Flash on multiple WEB sites.

  • Sanjeev

    So far about 300 people voted for Miley. Shows that lenr community is really tiny. His is on top anyway.

    May be T&D can help to get more votes. Can someone write to them?

    • Peter_Roe

      I would have thought that most interested people (say 80% plus?) would visit this site. Maybe admin could tell us roughly how many separate people visit regularly? Given that the overall numbers probably are low you have to wonder why CF blogs are so frequently plagued by shills of varying degrees of skill.

      • Peter_Roe

        I see we have a rather feeble one plying his trade below.

        • GreenWin

          Certainly the rise in shillery here indicates growing desperation. All of which is supportive of Rossi et al and the imminent arrival of news 🙂

          “By casting public doubt and scorn upon the heretical idea, it germinates in private, to full bloom.” jt guruvian

        • GreenWin

          Peter, hence the cry, “Shilery is not dead!”

      • Bob

        I think it would be a serious error to count as a shill anyone who posts a negative opinion on the likelihood of Rossi coming up with the goods.
        It seems most who post here seem to be of the opinion everything is going just great, but that is possibly because those with opposing views have long since been banned from posting.
        I think until such time as there is positive proof that Rossi actually has something which works, I can’t see big-oil or big-anything taking any interest in it at all and would certainly not bother employing shills to speak on their behalf.
        In any case, if it actually works then all the talk against it will be pointless. It will happen anyway.

    • Gerrit

      I think that the early lack of competition took the wind out of our sails. Now other projects are getting votes and it is possible that we still lose this if we don’t keep track of the competition.

      1300 people have voted on the age poll. If only 50% of them would vote for Miley.

      • GreenWin

        Curious, is it not? People would rather discuss their age than support a low cost way to build an LENR device. Depth?

        • For example I don’t vote because I’m not American.

          • GreenWin

            Pekka, is the voting not open to anyone? I would rather see tax dollars go to George Miley’s startup than certain destructive projects.

            • AlainCo

              note that among voters there are swedish, germans, french, indonesian…

              it is not like deciding to elect a mayor, but to say some idea is good…
              foreigners opinion is not less valluable than local…

              the bad point is that we have less voters today (less than 350), and others project seems far worse prepared. all that look like a joke.

      • Roman S

        “1300 people have voted on the age poll. If only 50% of them would vote for Miley.”

        I’m here for fun. I don’t believe in Rossi nor Miley.

      • Invy

        Perhaps the admin could post a update article for every 50 votes, so once it passes 400… Just to get some readers here who might not read it everyday to go vote.

  • Omega Z

    The interview was recorded on February 27, 2013

  • clovis

    HI everyone
    Nice video Frank, I hope we see more and more, of like information.
    it will be just what the e-cat needs, when the time is right, and Dr. Rossi comes across as a most intelligent person, i have ever heard, you can tell he loves his work, and i can’t imagine what the pressure must be on him, he is a very religious man, so that helps him cope, he will be one of the most famous men in the world , i would hate for it to be known that i called him bad names.

    • yamal

      i wonder if you will ‘hate for it to be known’ that you praised him when it turns out that there never was an e-cat.

      • clovis

        this from the horse’s mouth,
        In this period many important things are on their way, it will not take long before important events.
        Warm Regards,

      • captain kirk

        Of course we all know it’s just measurement errors….. ha, ha , ha ,ha , ha!

        • yamal

          the point is we do NOT know. all we can do is hope or speculate or wish or believe. with rossi (and lenr in general) it is interesting how far the very same information splits people rather distinctly. the middle ground seems to be relatively unoccupied and on both extremes of the spectrum people can’t understand how anybody could possibly think the opposite of their own conclusion holds any merit at all.

  • obro

    In this interview Rossi mentions several times that he is going to deliver the e-cats he’s sold “soon”. Of all the questions the interviewer asked him, he didn’t ask what to my opinion is the most important one: How soon is “soon”? This year? This decade, or century, or millennium?

    • John-64

      Of course the interviewer didn’t ask the value of “when” because he would have been risking a walk out.

    • clovis

      see above,– smile

  • lieno

    If an E-cat had a COP of 0.5 and was used in conjunction with carbon fuels to make steam, would it be cost-effective at some purchase price? What do you think that price would be?

    • yamal

      no, it wouldn’t be cost effective, of course. or did you mean 1.5?

      • lieno

        Yes, I meant 1.5

        • yamal

          i think it depends then. for a low temp thermal application like heating a house, cop 1.5 is much less than what an average heat pump could achieve – so there it comes down to factors like cost and complexity. with other applications it may be different. for high temperature operation, 1.5 would be useful almost everywhere (provided cost and complexity doesn’t eat up the advantage, obviously).

          • Bob

            A COP of 1.5 would only be of use to prove the principle works.
            The first transistors had a gain or amplification of only 3. They only served to prove there was something there worth further investigation. Transistors can now have gains of well over 100 and are dirt cheap.

            An ordinary heat pump has a COP around 3 and can be used for both heating and cooling, including water heaters. They run for years with no servicing at all. They are now very cheap.
            It would be hard to compete with this if the COP was less than 3, specially if it requires regular servicing.

  • GreenWin

    The Tom and Doug “I Believe in E-Cat” song from their web site. And an earlier interview in which Rossi explains how he got involved with Prof Sergio Focardi suggesting that he would pay Focardi to convince him that LENR “was wrong.” Focardi refused. Entertaining.

  • Mike888

    what every happened to BlackLight Power, they made big claims and then vanished off the map.

    • Ash

      Not exactly – BLP has been around for more than 20 years and has raised more than $60m from investors. I doubt they will disappear that quickly. I also doubt they will ever ship a product.

  • John-64

    I’m curious about guesses of when the 3rd party report is published. *If* it comes out, it’ll be about June. When do you think it’ll happen?

    • Bob

      The strange thing is, in his blog he also says that the manufacturing will go ahead regardless of what the third party report says.
      Logically, that is saying that even if the report shows the ecat does not work, he is still going to carry on making them.
      That sounds a bit strange.

      • Peter_Roe

        Obviously Rossi (or actually his US partner) wouldn’t manufacture something that doesn’t work. What Rossi is saying is that he knows that they work, so if the 3rd party testers made some kind of operational errors that reduced output, this is relatively unimportant (although I’m sure he would be disappointed by such an outcome).

        • That’s exactly how I understood his statement too.

          Rossi knows, and he’s 100% sure, his device is working.
          So in the worst case the report only show a litte lower COP than he claimed.

          I guess he’s not present at the test all the time, but he surely has taken a look if his device produces steam.
          And if so, it’s working, so no worry about the results 😉

          • Peter_Roe

            Hopefully we’ll find out which quite soon.

  • GreenWin

    Very spirited interview and wonderful songs Tom and Doug – thanks!! Also fascinating to read the amateur shrinkage comments. Watch TV news anchors for seriously depressed faces. 🙁

  • Rossi looks like he already knows the test will be negative. This may destroy LENR research unless Defkalion comes up with something that works very soon. Defkalion already claims many positive third party tests. Are their claims true?

    My optimism about LENR was based on so many respected scientists testing it and claiming that it worked. Statistically I do not see any other explanation that it does work. Does it work, but not produce a high COP, or are all these scientists kidding themselves? Right now it is like an episode of The Twilight Zone. It makes no sense that so many people would get so interested and spend so much time and money on something that does not work. Testing for excess heat is not that difficult.

    Rossi looks depressed and tired. Not a good sign at all.

    • Maybe he is just nervous? Think about YOU were Rossi in the current situation. You know within the next few weeks a Report will be released which undeniable shows that YOU are the man which will create a huge energy revolution.
      Billions of US$ are on the way to be worth nearly nothing.

      I think this is a imense psychological pressure…

      On the other side: Why should Rossi allow an independent test if he knows he’s a fraudster?
      I believe he has something, and THAT’s why he looks so tense…

      • yamal

        why would he be nervous if he really had something? whatever the third party would say – as long as it includes any hint at lenr, rossi would be everybody’s hero. if he has no doubt that his reactors work, whoever tests them would find evidence for it. if he’s got nothing, then he wouldn’t allow a third party test. in my opinion there are only two scenarios consistent with what we know.

        1) he honestly believes his products work but is no longer sure. the issues others had (with i.e. steam quality and the power measurement from that swedish agency) never seemed to bother him until now, when the third party found out that he doesn’t get any excess power. such a level of self-deceit seems unlikely despite his flippantly brushing the issue aside when confronted by krivit and others. this also seems inconsistent with his claims about existing customers. but he may have invented customers to give the impression of a successful business in order to gain time for further development because he believed he could somehow make it work.

        2) there is no third party test.

        • If Rossi realy has something, he don’t know how the world reacts after the bomb was dropped.
          Particularly he don’t know how the big energy companies react.

          Will he be a hero, or will the big energy companies use their media power and political lobbyism to make him a villain?

          We don’t know an he don’t know.

          • yamal

            hang on. according to most people on this blog, the shoe dropped two years ago in such a convincing way that it even affected the oil market and apparently justifies calling somebody names if he dares to doubt it. so what could a third party test possibly accomplish on top of such confidence?

          • John-64

            Why would big energy companies make him a villain? Does it matter? Either he has a product (the E-cat) or he doesn’t. If he has it, it’ll be decades before the majority of energy sources move to e-cat, and some won’t because they are still financially viable (as an example hydroelectric power – a dam has already been built, power coming from it is relatively inexpensive).

            I read a lot of “big power” talk here, but really, it’s way too early to worry about big power hit squads travelling to Italy. It probably won’t happen. Did the tube manufacturers put a hit on John Bardeen and Walter Brattain, inventors of the transistor? No, they did not.

        • “whatever the third party would say – as long as it includes any hint at lenr, rossi would be everybody’s hero.” You didn’t know that the most important is not to win, but to win overwhelmingly? 🙂

          In scenario (1), why would a 3rd party run and rerun tests for months if it doesn’t show some signs of anomalous heat?

          • yamal

            if the first scenario fits (as i said – very unlikely anyway), them coming back would be more consistent with no excess power than with cop 6, imo. i doubt they’d quibble over 5.9 vs. 6.1. but if we’re talking about distinguishing between ambigous miliwatts and an artifact, there is probably more reason to come back and make sure.

            • robyn wyrick

              With respect, I’d think the opposite.

              I think either way, they’d want a second look, but less so if there were no excess power registered.

              If there were a cop of 5.5 or something, then you have something very important to say, that is completely outside the mainstream of science. You’d better have it right.

              Dog bites man, you can fudge the facts; but man bites dog, you better have your story straight.

              But of course: Me = no genuine knowledge.

        • Peter_Roe

          3) he knows that his devices work, but the operating parameters are critical and any deviation will compromise operation. he suspects that the 3rd party testers may have used a protocol that would depress output, possibly even to zero, and knows that this will give the shills a field day until a prototype can be made public.

          4) the outcome of the tests is great, but there are other problems, such as last minute quibbles by an editor.

          • yamal

            your point 3) makes no sense because ‘until a prototype can be made public’ could be any day he (or his mysterious partner, if there is one) wants. he chose this ultra secret way with unknown scientists publishing at an unknown time in an unknown journal based on unknown tests running unknown protocols. nobody forced it upon him and nobody can keep him from making additional, public demos with free access to the input and output sides of his reactors for interested parties.

          • AlainCo

            point “) is what is reported by Nelson on Defkalion R5 reactor.

            Nelson force the reactor to work out of it’s working point around 100C, leading to a modest COp of 3 at KW level…

            anyway it is a gigantic breakthrough, and why mainstream ignore tha resulst like all pseudo-skeptics…

            one have to remember that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONVINCE A BELIEVER. and patho-skeptics are believers.

            the truth came since long from really skeptics like Dawn dominguez, duncan, Gerisher, Celani…
            they were all real skeptics.

            of course no patho-skeptics will accepte wht they say.

            the game for e patho-skeptcs is to tweak the resulst, eliminate the calims, if not for imagination hypotheis, then by ad hominem, avoiding to check the evidence and talk of all the data.

            there is no hope. we should forget about reports, and wait for market in 2 years.
            Wrigth’s plane was sold in france before it was accepted in US by SciAm.
            It was demonstrated as impossible to exist, usin theorem, by Kelvin , while flying in US.

            • yamal

              how can you seriously complain about ad hominem in the same post in which you yourself effectively called 99.x% of the world’s physicists ‘patho-skeptics’?

            • Peter_Roe

              You are right Alain. Any engagement with pathoskeps is a serious waste of time.

              • GreenWin


          • 5) the outcome of the tests is great, but he’s anxious about if and what kind of a media frenzy breaks out

          • artefact

            6) They get a good COP that can only be produced in a nuclear way. They get no neutrons or hard gamma.
            In order to not publish the report without searching for any other radiation they had get scanners for every possible frequency and measure it again during a specific time frame.

          • Peter_Roe

            7) when the hot cat was switched on, it immediately vapourised the 3rd party testers and the building they were in, but Rossi is still too embarrassed to tell anyone.

            • GreenWin

              However, the empty lot and whisps of smoke is hard evidence the effect is “real.”

              • Invy

                Clearly there was a hot fusion device near by that went critical…. Because we all know cold fusion isn’t physically possible. /sarcasm

            • yamal

              yeah. definitely the most likely of all possibilities. it would also explain rossi’s sunburn. he was in a building on the same campus and faced toward the explosion. only the fact that he was sitting behind a 10 foot concrete wall saved his life.

    • John-64

      If it turns out that Defkalion was an entity created by Rossi, I would not be surprised. However, they seem to have disappeared, or gone into hibernation for the winter.

      This is typical behaviour for “alternative” energy/product sources. You just can’t trust what they say. So many broken promises.

      • They are still up. They currently open their doors for scientists and engineers which want to engineer devices which use their hyperion reactors as energy/heat source.

      • Veblin
        We are accepting in our laboratory, interested companies requesting to conduct common R&D on applications of our technology.

    • Warthog

      Get a grip, man. LENR is about more than Rossi and Defkalion. There are half a dozen companies (and probably more we don’t know about) in the throes of developing commercial prototypes. Even NASA makes the blunt statement…..”…the experimental data are bulletproof….”.

      • clovis


    • Dave

      You need to understand that LENR is real, but it’a a long, long way from being able to product the amount of useful energy Rossi claims for his E-Cat device. Those “respected scientists” want more LENR research, not hoaxes.

  • Andre Blum

    Is it me, or does Rossi look a lot more grave, and less joyful than, say, a half year or a year ago? He is not laughing as much, and if he tries, it is less convincing.

    I am not implying that that is bad news, it could just as well be a good sign; it could mean that he is now surrounded by people who are dead serious — like the military.

    • Maybe he’s tired of the 12 hours work per day.

    • Bigwilly

      He has been on 16 hour work days since 2010. Remember he has single handedly brought about multiple scientific revolutions, (warm cat, hot cat and emf cat). That stuff takes time.


      • Peter_Roe

        ’emf cat’? Is that something you invented rather than Rossi?

      • Bigwilly

        I have no idea where I heard it. I thought it was the latest and greatest. I may be wrong but I doubt it.

        • clovis

          I believe, your right as well. but they are just now doing testing, as to how much is being produced, and can it be scaled up,or down which ever gives the best product,you would not want a small amount of direct electric power, if it cut into your heat energy, but it could be used to maintain the reactor to make it truly economical.

    • Dickyaesta

      He wants to talk openly, but can not (the frown between his eyes). He is avoiding the camera because not to reveal truths via his eyes. But then his upper forehead looks like a cloudless sky after a storm, so he is relaxed but can’t say what he wants to say. Seems to me he has the thing he has been working for 16 hours a day the last two to three years, but doen’t want to lose his zillions, saying too much, but being Rossi he cannot avoid talking about it as much as possible, wouldn’t you? It seems very positive to me at this stage.

      Greeting Didymus.

  • Felis Fervens

    Rossi certainly chose an unusual venue for his first media exposure in some time (wasn’t it no more media until the 3rd party report was released?). It’s like Nikola Tesla going on Pee-wee’s Playhouse to inform the public of advances in AC generators.

    Most unusual guy. Hope he has the goods.

  • Torbjörn

    Rumor: Uppsala University is testing the Hot-Cat right now…

    • Sounds interessting. I got the feeling that the most scientists recognized that there is really something going on, and now there is trouble and much activity behind the scenes…

      Where is this information from, and do you think they will give us official information after the test?

    • GreenWin

      It is fairly interesting that some of the main players involved with the e-cat proofs hail from University Uppsala (Roland Pettersson,) The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences (Sven Kullander,) Essen, Lars Tegnér of the Swedish Energy Agency, etc. The coincidence of Ikegami’s papers on pycnonuclear chemonuclear fusion, (7Li + 7Li;) and especially Dr. Pettersson’s participation in the October 6, E-Cat tests in Bologna speak some volume.

      It is certainly reasonable to assume University Uppsala is one of the 4-5 testing entities of the E-Cat.

      • GreenWin

        errata: Hanno Essen is an Assoc. Prof. at Swedish Royal Institute of Technology. Tegner provided support for the Ikegami chemonuclear studies.

      • Lemuel
        • GreenWin

          “The report indicates scientists; Abraham Langlet, Curt Edstrom and Jan Erik Nowacki were unable to achieve any sort of reactions.”

          Curt Edstrom, has no science degree. Jan Erik Nowacki is a licensed technician specializing in people-pod transportation. Abraham Langlet is a explosives expert and coincidentally the very same name as the famous co-discoverer of Helium. Their paper indicates they failed to follow their own consultant’s advice (Ahern) as to the size of Ni grains.

    • Bigwilly

      Baloney University has been testing the Warm cat for i think a year now. Maybe they are also involved in the hot cat publication.

      • GreenWin

        Willy, you are correct in that UniBo has been involved in some or other tests of e-cat for several years – all the while trying to avoid admitting such.

        FYI Willy, UniBo “…began to take shape in Bologna at the end of the eleventh century, when masters of Grammar, Rhetoric and Logic began to devote themselves to the law. In the nineteenth century a committee of historians, led by Giosuè Carducci, attributed the birth of the University to the year 1088.”

        Almost a thousand year old. Makes me feel young.

        • Bigwilly

          Hey GreenWin,

          Unibo keeps denying that they are working with Rossi just like National Instruments but i dont believe either. They just dont want to let the cat out of the bag.

          Thanks for the info. A thousand year old Universty…pretty cool. Makes America’s oldest schools seem like kindergarden.


    • admin

      So long as we are chasing rumors, here is a comment that came on this site a couple of weeks ago from poster ‘Val Gorsky’:

      “I can reveal that the 3rd party is a swedish test institute/ Rossi has cooperated with the swedes for a long time. There are still some who believs in him. Mats Lewan, Ny Tekbik is one of them.”

      • Torbjörn
        • clovis

          Hi, folks, well I think I heard Dr. Rossi say that they were not involved, in the 3 party test, they being university of bologna, in an interview somewhere along the line.—-smile now in t6his latest round i’m not sure, but.

  • lcd

    His reaction to questions about the third party results are not very reassuring. I am also not sure how he can claim the results would not affect his work or business. The only thing I can think of is that they are not testing the same thing he’s producing.

    • Guga

      I had the same thought.

    • Or he’s 100% confident his device is working, and the test and measurement results only could/would differ in the exact COP value (deciaml places).

      • Giuliano Bettini

        I agree.:)

    • Redford

      Or he realised it would be better for the reception of the article if he doesn’t seem confident about the result.

      Or he’s not 100% trusty of what the measures will be, like he was surprised in 2012 September by the guy mandated by the swedish support.

  • Does he have a sunburn? His head seems to be a little bit red 😉
    Maybe he spent to much time at miami beach…

    • David

      Cycling is one of his favourite hobby

  • R101

    That was great. Loved the songs too.
    Thanks for posting this Frank!

  • Roger Bird

    It would be nice to do a survey about Rossi per se. 1.) He for real. 2.) He is for real but is stalling due to technical problems. 3.) He is not for real. 4.) I don’t know, but I am inclined to believe him. 5.) I don’t know, but I am inclined to disbelieve him. 6.) I don’t know.

    For me, I would be a 2. I think that he is a walking revolution, but may be stalling for technical reasons.

  • Lots more stuff like this please!

  • Kim Patterson

    I guess the lighting has struck.

    Were just waiting for the thunder!


    • Peter_Roe

      More like chucking pebbles in a pond I think. Gradually the ripples spread wider.

    • Jarvis Cooper

      A little AC DC Thunderstruck music going on in my head right now. I can’t wait for the roaring sound of ecat thunder!!!

  • orsobubu

    Rossi is italian like me and I do understand perfectly 100% of what he’s saying, while I can guess only 50-70% of Florek’s. So scientifically I conclude that Rossi’s english is so much better.

    • captain

      I’ve watched mainly the first part of the video, say Rossi’s interview. And Rossi tells what’s going on now and what he expects for next months. Really nothing new worth to be considered. Still a hard job in his factories…

      Rossi is the Chief of scientists now, and the only person authorised to give out informations, and that’s well-known.

      But, suppose, repeat suppose 😉 that the E-Cat inventor has already sold out his ‘brevet/patent/IP’ to the new important american partner for say …,000,000,000$ (thru Escrow, of course), this explains better how Rossi feels actually, waiting for 3rd party certification, validation, USPTO and UL patents/certifications… each month seems one year 😉

      As I’ve said other times, The italian scientist is sincere, he’s a polite guy, and he doesn’t say lies.

      In the meantime the R&D is going on in Italy, mainly and in the states too: as he said, also the new important Leonardo’s partner is making (hot) plants and he seems to me like a Blackknight on a Whitehorse 😉

      Important is that thanks to Rossi’s E-Cat the LENR is real and it works fine, too much fine, he he he…

      And for the real good news, say 2 or 3 for this year, I’m confident they’ll arrive.

      • had enough of this bulldust.

        it doesnt properly work yet, he handed over the data to “the third party” so they could fix it for him.
        he now has two development teams basically…until some one pins down the theory of what is exactly what is going on then it has the potential to “melt your windows” as nasa put it.
        rossi clinging onto the “secret” catalyst is evidence that this thing has military implications…
        if it were open sourced and the “scientists” read “inventors/entrepeneurs” would share their data- it may be a beautiful but this is an ugly process alright.
        But it would be nice to know the mechanics so that all the worlds physicists can have a go at theorising and thus controlling the devices.
        This machine and descendants and all the icat appple versions that follow it are biggewr than rossi ,bigger than nasa and bigger than oil- the secrecy and the money concerning energy isnt ever going away.
        If rossi were to just release the catalyst he would be forever recognised for it and we could make him king of luxembourg or something if he wants to fill his pockets.
        The only reason i can see he wouldnt open his books is if it were dangerous to him or to the world- if id solved the future for all mankind i wouldnt try and hold back on how i did it or wait one second to get it implemented and actually changing the world- every scientific brain on the planet should be fully informed and working hard on the solution, but they are not…we are picking up pieces from press releases of faceless and evavise corporations.
        new energy but same old people…
        we dont deserve it if it does work thats all i know…
        and that the nickel isotope ratios in the lattice are very important

    • Thomas

      Lol, nice comment 🙂

      I understood both 100% and I’m German … What does this say? 🙂

      • Bob

        Sie sind ein Produzent fyr die Show??
        Bitte erläutern Sie den Witz über einen Hund wistle

        You are a producer from the Show?
        Please explain the joke about the Dog Whistle