NyTeknik Reports on Halted Swedish Investment in Hydrofusion Following Tests [Update: Rossi Responds]

This just in published by Mats Lewan at NyTeknik. It reports that a group of Swedish investors were prepared to invest 65 million (euros?)  into Hydrofusion, the company which is the licensee for the E-Cat products in northern Europe, and which is behind the Ecat.com website which accepts orders for E-Cat products.

The article states:

“Investor Group had instructed the SP Technical Research Institute of Sweden , to monitor the measurement, and the researchers who attended measuring an input electrical power that was two to three times higher than Rossi himself measured.The measurement used the SP called True RMS instruments

Hydrofusion today issued the following press release on their web site:

Hydro Fusion witnessed a new independent test of the high temperature ECAT prototype reactor on September 6th in Bologna. Although no full report has yet been received, early indications are that the results of the July 16th/August 7th reports could not be reproduced.

Hydro Fusion cannot at this stage support any claims made, written or other, about the amount of excess heat generated by the new high temperature ECAT prototype.

In his presentation at the E-Cat Conference in Zurich, Andrea Rossi mentioned that the testing that he was reporting was preliminary, and that more testing was “in course”. Today, Rossi released the following statement on the Journal of Nuclear Physics, most likely in reference to the news coming out of Sweden:

It is necessary that I repeat the following statement:

THE HOT CAT ( REACTOR AT HIGH TEMPERATURE) HAS NOT BEEN YET VALIDATED, BECAUSE THE TESTS AND THE MEASUREMENTS HAVE STILL TO BE COMPLETED, AND TO COMPLETE THEM WILL BE NECESSARY AT LEAST 2-3 MORE MONTHS. I SAID THIS IN MY REPORT IN ZURICH AND I REPEAT THIS HERE.

THE PROFESSORS AND ENGINEERS WHO ARE MAKING THESE TESTS ARE SPECIALISTS AND THEIR WORK IS COMPLEX. FOR EXAMPLE, THE MEASUREMENT OF THE ENERGY CONSUMED HAS TO BE MADE IN A WAY THAT IS BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, SO NOW WE ARE REPEATING THE MEASUREMENTS USING A VARIAC TO AVOID THAT ENERGY USED BY THE RESISTANCES IS NOT MEASURED BY THE VOLTMETER AND THE AMPEROMETER ( THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE MANY ISSUES THAT ARE UNDER PROBE). THEREFORE IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG TO USE THE EXPRESSION ” THE ENGINEERS WHO PERFORMED THE PUBLISHED VALIDATION”, WHILE IS CORRECT THE EXPRESSION ” THE PROFESSORS AND THE ENGINEERS WHO ARE PERFORMING THE VALIDATION IN COURSE”.

THE FINAL RESULTS WILL BE PUBLISHED IN A SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE ONLY AFTER THE VALIDATION WILL HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
I AM RECEIVING FROM MANY PERSONS THIS QUESTION: ” IS IT POSSIBLE TO INVEST IN THE HOT CAT”? MY ANSWER IS: NO, IT IS NOT, BECAUSE THE REACTOR FOR HIGH TEMPERATURES IS NOT READY, IS NOT AS PRODUCT, IS A PROTOTYPE SUBJECT TO RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND I WANT NOT TO PUT ANYBODY AT RISK BEFORE THE HOT CAT IS NOT YET A PRODUCT. OF COURSE I BELIEVE IN IT, I AM INVESTING MY MONEY IN IT, BUT I WANT NOT TO PLAY FOOT BALL WITH THE BONES OF THE OTHERS.
Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi

The mention of using the Variac indicates that Rossi is trying to address the issue of electrical input — the Variac being a testing instrument (variable transformer) which allows accurate measurement and control of electrical input.

The original NyTeknik article can be found here:

http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3535258.ece

No doubt we will be hearing more of this development as time progresses.

UPDATE: Thanks to Andre Blum for the following:

I sent Rossi an e-mail in line with what I wrote earlier in this thread (on True RMS algorithms.) Rossi replies:

Dear Sir: we resolved the èroblem with a variac, which confirmed, substantially, that our measurements were right,but I repeat that meny more measurements will be made by the validators. A final report will be published only after the end of the validation. At that point we will have no more aprototype, but a certified product and the measurements will be made directly in operation by the Customers.
Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi

UPDATE: I received the following via email from Andrea Rossi in response to an inquiry about the situation this morning:

Other independent institutions are making measurements with a Variac, and the measurements are confirming the data of our report. As I said, the Hot Cat is still a prototype under research and development, we hosted the Swedish expert as well as we hosted other experts. The data have still to be completed, and that means results confirm the data we gave in our report, so far. In any case within a couple of months we will finish the cycle of independent tests and the results will be published in a scientific magazine. I wrote when I sent you the report last week and I repeat now that the reactor at high temperature is not yet a product, needs more analysis, measurements, tests to become aproduct, and I confirm it. To reach this target we are listening everubody. I am convinced that within 2-3 months we will have a very good final score, but of course at the moment I cannot give guarantees, even id we are investing all we can in this. We will see the final results.

Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi

  • captain

    I like to put your attention to just what Miles wrote and Omega Z replied, nothing more!

    Miles on September 11, 2012 at 11:20 am wrote:

    Still early days. This is just the few of many steps needed to get the “prototype” to market. Ok everybody, just breath !!!
    What was everyone expecting – An official Announcement? Too many people on this forum are eager for answers. Rossi needs to be 100% sure execution of the e-cat is perfect, take a seat and enjoy the show. LENR is real, it’s coming !!!!

    Omega Z on September 11, 2012 at 6:33 pm replied to Miles:

    Agreed. 6 months ago they were still stuck at 200`C
    Rossi has actually come a long way in a very short time. In a University Lab it would have taken a minimum of 10 years to make a 1000°C jump. People let their expectations get away from them.

    So, plz, don’t pretend to have fresh news from Rossi every day, every hour, every minute.

    I would be happy to hear from Rossi a good news say each season, not more frequently.

    If we don’t keep in mind this, all the pleasure to visit this blog, to participate to its threads is not a pleasure.