Rossi: Now Able to Use Gas, Not Electricity to Drive E-Cat

Andrea Rossi has just announced what would seem to be an important breakthrough in the development of the E-Cat. In a comment on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today, Rossi said:

We are very close to a 1 MW plant with high temperature steam and electric power generation. Another important achievement , we got today: we are able, now, to make the drive with gas instead of electric power. This is extremely important, because now we are able to make thermal energy with thermal energy, and with the thermal energy produced we can make electric power. All this with 1 MW plants.

This would be an important breakthrough for a couple of reasons, in my estimation. First, heat from natural gas is going to be a lot more economical than heat from electricity in many parts of the world — and especially in places where reliable sources of electricity are not available. One could imagine in some parts of the world a tank of natural gas, or propane could be installed close to an E-Cat plant to provide the heat drive necessary to control the reaction.

The second reason, it seems to me, is that if the E-Cat itself is producing so much thermal energy, it may be possible to find ways to reuse some of the thermal output to provide the heat necessary for the drive. Now the E-cat may not work that way, so that’s just a guess on my part. Or it could be that you might be able to have a small separate E-Cat supplying the thermal power for a larger one.

Rossi also mentions here that they are ‘very close’ to high temperature steam production. An E-Cat producing electricity is going to be much more versatile than one producing heat only. Of course the usual ‘Rossi says’ caveats apply here — that should go without saying.

It’s certainly been an eventful week so far on the LENR front!

And by the way, what is this?

Hot Cat pic from 'Cures'


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  • Oliver Harris

    What about that unmonitored earth wire an Aussie engineer has pointed to on the E-cat? Can we sure about all this until it is confirmed that it does not carry significant current?

  • H. Skip Robinson

    Congrads again Andrea, Many are pulling for you.

  • Wes

    Any source of heat should work; heat is heat. I am preparing to patent several customized heaters for the e-cat module; The Campfire-Cat (wood fired), and “Cat-on-a-Hot-Tin-Roof” (solar powered). The magician Rossi distracts from the central issue; what is the COP? Next week: “The Pocket-Cat,” powered by cigarette lighter!

  • Barry

    Is this the HotCat???

    • http://neotreksoftware.com Allan Shura

      It does resemble a boiler steam drum cut in half for heat tolerance testing.

  • s

    From what was posted, an interpretation of the COP is 13.39/3.56 = ~3.76. This is not to be considered the actual COP but a best guess based on what was posted. Any comments on this?

  • barty

    Photo was made in Bologna, if you compare the grounds:

    http://i.imgur.com/Ul2C7.jpg

    • http://www.warpfusion.com Conrad

      Good work!

      And looks like like an electric heater shaped like a rocket.

      I might make one at home and take a photo. ha

  • Van den Bogaert Joannes

    To LENR believers,

    Do not forget the catalyst in the Ni-H transmutation reaction.
    Potassium metal coming e.g. from potassium carbonate can react with hydrogen and form negatively charged hydrogen ions (H-). These ions tunnel through the nickel electron shells and reach the positively charged nickel nucleus (see Piantelli published US patent application
    (Fig. 5). The H- ions can be produced by heating potassium hydride above 400°C. (see comments on E-Cat Builder Site).

  • jacob

    Hello everyone.

    Many thanks to Andrea Rossi for continually driving the

    advancement of his E-cat technology for current and future implementation

    in industry and eventual domestic application.

    While the rest of the world argues about why LENR works or how it works
    or which of the theories of hundreds of possible reasons,

    Rossi is presenting actual working E-cat for sale to us,and before long with his backers ,there is billions of dollars to be made ,and it is save to say ,that the E-cat will be profit driven.

    Profit driven meaning unstoppable.

    Driven by greed and money just like oil.

    So it is obvious E-cat wins OIL takes the backseat. Eventually .

  • Stephen

    One question: once one can supposedly drive an eCat on gas, i.e. direcly on heat… why not having a self-sustained reactor with COP infinite? That would be the killer demonstration/application.

    I kind of remember there where problems with stability? However like with electrical power I am quite sure one could tune the heat fed back into the reactor and keep the whole thing stabile… isn’t it?

    About the “what is this”… well given the information we have it could be basically almost anything. Seems hot :)

    • Stephen

      I remember AR tried to run self-sustanined already… but forgot what was the exact problem in the past. I wonder if now it might be different…

    • Niemand

      This is possible this interpretation:
      Burning gas is driving small Siemens turbine, which is universal capable running on hot gases and steam too.
      So starting last gen e-cat with burning gas, producing heat, after start period, produced hot steam is directed to turbine, where turbo-generator is producing electricity. Half or one third of produced electricity is looped back to e-cats units. So maybe is gas only for start purpose only.
      This is only low probability hypothesis.

      • jacob

        correct

  • Supervisor

    One small question: Where is pipe with hydrogen supply ?

    This gadget is looking and behaving like HephaHeat

    • Francesco CH

      If you have carefully followed the development of the E-Cat, you should know why there is not any “pipe with hydrogen supply”.

      • Niemand

        Metal Hydride was always mentioned strictly only with e-CAT and commercial e-cats was always mentioned as “different tech”.

  • Omega Z

    A Note of Interest.

    Nevanlinna
    10 August 2012 16:09
    @ Lmwillys:

    Doubts about the conspiracy theory: if they did it out for Mallowe Fleischmann and Pons, Rossi, who is invulnerable?Or the killers in 2012 decided to give us a break and we will get back to New Year?

    @ Cures:

    But there is someone, besides Rossi, who could repeat the machine Rossi, though
    Rossi disappeared?
    There is a back-up?

    http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cobraf.com%2Fforum%2Ftopic.php%3Ftopic_id%3D5747%26reply_id%3D123482996%23123482996&act=url

    • Omega Z

      Would like to add

      According to Cures this is just a phase measurement test on the Hot Cat.

    • hammerskoj

      Translation is wrong.
      Read:
      … did out for F and P, and now is Rossi perhaps invulnerabe?
      There is a back-up?

      Cures answer in the post with the image of reactor:

      X Nevanlinna:

      He [Rossi] told me he has already thought about ….

      • hammerskoj

        New COBRAS post on security of e-Cat know-how

    • hammerskoj

      Last news:

      Andrea Rossi
      August 11th, 2012 at 3:35 AM

      INFORMATION:
      AFTER THE LEAKAGE MADE BY AN INSIDER WITH THE THE NICKNAME “CURES” REGARDING THE TESTS COMPLETED ON JULY 16TH, WHICH HAD TO REMAIN UNDER NDA, I HAVE TO INFORM THAT:
      THE TEST MADE ON JULY 16TH WILL BE REPEATED OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE HALF OF OCTOBER 2012 BY THE UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA AND THE RESULTS WILL BE PUBLISHED BY THE SAME UNIVERSITY.
      ANDREA ROSSI

      • Luca Salvarani

        This is a game changer news! It will kill all skeptics forever|!

        • Iggy Dalrymple

          It will kill all skeptics forever|!

          Skeptics could deny a gigantic flying saucer landing at the Super Bowl….but maybe not after they were abducted.

  • Sanjeev

    The pic makes Rossi’s claims more believable. Looks good…

    I wonder why there is no gamma ray shielding here and as the report says people are measuring it from a few meter distance. It can cause problems.

    Can someone ask the source about this ? Did Rossi also get rid of gamma? :)

    • joe j

      I think this was a mistake, Rossi should have released news of the 1500 ecat before the nat gas ecat which would have bought him several additional months lead time.

    • Luca Salvarani

      X Sanjeev

      According to Cures the (quite short) distance is due to very hot air surrounding the device.