With 1000C Heat, E-Cat Can Solve Energy Crisis

While it is too early to pronounce the E-Cat project accomplished, I believe we are looking at a technology that before long could solve the energy crisis in terms of offering a far cheaper and cleaner alternative to most of the current forms of energy being used now.

The first generation of E-Cat 1 MW plants which from all accounts are now on the market (see Aldo Proia’s recent interview) have the capacity to provide inexpensive heat up to 120C in abundance, which could go a long way towards cutting heating and hot bills for factories, commercial buildings, perhaps apartment buildings in many parts of the world. At a retail cost of around 1 cent per kW/h (Rossi’s estimate), many businesses would find this very attractive, and will likely be eager to switch from current sources of heat.

Despite these attractive features, it is not necessarily the case that as revolutionary as the thermal E-Cat is, that initially it will be cost effective for users to migrate from current heating sources. Natural gas is currently at low prices, and could still be more effective in many parts of the world. You also have to consider the purchase price of the 1-MW plants and the price of electricity that is required for the E-Cat’s drive.

All this changes, however, when we consider the high temperature E-Cat which allows for the production of electricity. Heat is good — but without electricity production the E-Cat provides only a partial solution to many pressing energy problems.

Maximum temperatures of over 1000C (Rossi confirms) mean that not only is heat available for industrial level jobs, but it is more than enough heat to provide the high temperature steam that is needed to create electricity efficiently. And this is key — because if you can create electricity efficiently, you are in a position where E-Cat units can be used to provide the drive that is needed to power other E-Cats. A COP of 6, which Rossi maintains is still the standard, means one E-Cat can produce enough electricity to drive another E-Cat, and there would be electricity left over.

This means that it will be feasible to create E-Cat power power plants that would require no excess fuel other than the minimal amounts of nickel, hydrogen, and secret catalyst (whatever that might be). You could also retrofit existing power stations — take out the current boiler systems (coal, gas, oil, nuclear) and replace it with a configuration of E-Cat units. Of course there will be engineering problems involved, and there would also many safety authorizations to secure — but in principle, the task is doable.

There would be lots of engineering involved, and multiple ways to approach the issue of making stand alone E-Cat generators. In time I am sure that efficiency and power density would be improved. But the most important breakthrough seems to have been made — very high temperatures, and it appears to me that Andrea Rossi has come up with a way to solve to a great extent many of the pressing energy problems that face our world.

  • Van den Bogaert Joannes

    The catalyst seems to be a sectret that is carefully kept with the E-Cat.
    I suppose that a valid patent application has been filed and I should like to know when it is open to public. My guess is that it is potassium hydride or strontium hydride optionally in combination with calcium hydride, what do you think?. Look into the blog-site “E-Cat builder”.

  • http://www.cfcl.com
    These guys get 60% efficiency from gas – highest in the world.
    I wonder they could use this technology with steam??
    Comments please…

  • N810

    I checked out what materials melted at 1000C and as I suspected Nickel and Copper melt at tempitures just over 1000C.

    • Chris

      The melting point of copper doesn’t matter so much, that of nickel is 1455 °C so it’s odd if Rossi is aiming for 1500 but he could get near it.

      • Ged

        Rossi is not aiming for 1500 C. Where did you hear that? The highest he can aim for is 1200 C, but Rossi recently stated he will not pursue anything that high, and will stop at 1000 C due to materials not being able to handle higher temperatures than that.

  • Zap

    If the thing works he needs to stop experimenting and start selling otherwise sooner or later hes going to lose his first in advantage.

    1000 degrees is as far as you need to take it to provide a viable energy technology which would solve all the worlds problems.

    • Omega Z


      According to a person with the handle of CURES, Rossi has obtained 1200`C stable.

      According to some of Rossi’s posts, This will be an on going data retrieving process, but their primary attention will shift to determining the best approaches to electrical generation.

      As for marketing the products, it is in process, Certifications have to be made & bureaucracy moves slow. Things move even slower when you working with a totally new technology. These things are beyond his control.

      Rossi can either set at his desk waiting weeks or months on responses from the bureaucracy or spend his time advancing the technology while waiting. What would you do.

  • Tyler

    I thought this was an interesting parallel to what is going on with LENR. I wonder if there were also the patho-skeptics back then who tried to deny or to hold back the development of chemistry, because it was not yet fully understood.

    Form Phys.Org yesterday,

    “In the early days of chemistry, finding out what happened when two or more chemicals were mixed together led to the development of all manner of new materials and to deriving useful events, such as the production of heat or light, or things exploding. As the science progressed however, researchers found they wanted to know more about what really goes on when chemicals react, but were unable to find out due to the massive number of interactions that occur during even the most ordinary chemical reactions.”


  • AB

    Off topic:

    Meta study finds that children in areas with high fluoride levels in drinking water had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low fluoride areas.

    Link (full paper available for free)

    • Iggy Dalrymple

      There’s something that’s naturally in the water in my hometown that protects the natives’ teeth but our county school system has the best test scores in the state of Florida, so it must not be fluoride. Visitors cannot stand the taste of our high sulfur water.

      • Ged

        I grew up on well water, and my family has never had any teeth problems either (though, something in the water or area was able to make me slightly radioactive as detectable by a Geiger counter).

        Minerals seem to be the important key, not just fluorine.

        Interestingly enough, those who grew up on well water in my home area were all quite healthy, while those on the city water had an abnormally high rate of childhood brain tumors (including the sister of my best friend, who survived, but not without permanent growth reduction).

        • Omega Z


          We live in a society that believes if a little of something is good a lot must be better. We tend to apply this to everything in society & suffer the consequences.

  • georgehants

    Crisis forces profit warning at German tech giant Siemens July 26, 2012 German engineering giant Siemens said Thursday it would be harder to achieve its annual profit targets, as the gloomy global economic mood weighed on orders, especially in the field of renewable energy.
    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-07-crisis-profit-german-tech-giant.html#jCp

    • Ged

      That’ll spur interest in an alternative, such as LENR.

  • georgehants

    Greenland Ice Melt.
    As this occurs regularly, it is a good thing the global warming people where not around last time it happened (70 years ago) they would have removed some of the CO2 from the atmosphere, which would have over-compensated and probably led to an ice-age.
    Why was Greenland named Greenland, because it was covered in ice and all white, I don’t think so.

    Satellites reveal unprecedented Greenland melting
    Wednesday, 25 July 2012
    Agençe France-Presse
    “Melting of this type occurs every 150 years
    Researchers have yet to determine whether the melt, which coincided with an unusually strong ridge of warm air over Greenland, will contribute to a rise in sea level.
    NASA said that even the area near the highest point of the ice sheet, located 2 miles (3.2km) above sea level, showed signs of melting.
    According to glaciologist Lora Koenig, who was part of the team analysing the data, melting incidents of this type occur every 150 years on average.”
    “With the last one happening in 1889, this event is right on time,” Koenig said. “But if we continue to observe melting events like this in upcoming years, it will be worrisome.”

    • Chris

      Yeah and why is Iceland called so? It’s easier to find geysers and volcanoes than ice there. I once read both names were Danish propaganda to discourage folks from going to the place already too settled and encourage them to settle on the further and colder shores. The climate wasn’t unlike in recent decades and anyway details don’t serve to disprove the greenhouse effect.

  • georgehants

    I suppose that Cold Fusion, Rossi et al could bypass the need for tunnels as San Fransisco has a large pile of water sitting right beside it called the sea.
    Desalination could provide any amount needed.

    San Francisco Chronicle
    Sacramento —
    State and federal officials announced Wednesday they intend to build two large tunnels to move massive amounts of water under the fragile Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta, reigniting California’s storied intrastate battle over fresh water.