Independent E-Cat Replication Claimed

An independent E-Cat replication  has been claimed on Buildecats.com, a site dedicated to building open source LENR reactors.

The claimant, known as Chan, reports on the materials and methods used in his process referred to as the Chan Formula.

He writes, “I have reached self sustained fusion at 200 C for days. If anyone duplicates my success, please communicate with me for possible cooperative venture. I have applied for a patent on this some time ago. I am proceeding to place a boiler is series with the oil line to power a small steam engine created from a compressed air engine kit using a basic gasoline engine.”

There’s no video, no photographs, no witnesses — so it’s impossible to verify if anything is going on here — but it’s interesting, and not surprising to see hobbyists as well as professionals getting involved in trying to replicate the reaction that Andrea Rossi has been claiming. Let’s hope people are being careful.

  • Karl
  • Carlz

    Quite confusing type of comments on this forum, one wonder if this is a strategy to pollute this kind of forums with nonsense?

  • Brad Arnold

    I am at a loss to explain why Chan’s news is greeted with anything but blasé interest. Rossi is about to sell another e-cat, this time to a customer that will make the sale public. Also, Defkalion is about to place on the market a range of certified LENR units. Furthermore, according to the e-book “Secrets of E-Cat” there are public schematics for a LENR unit that gets 2x over unity. Congratulations Chan, keep up the good work, but don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back, nor suffer crucifixion from “skeptics.” Be sure to keep us up to date Chan!

  • bill

    Re the poll: Rossi has discoverd!!! One can discover someone elses invention, Namely F.Piantelli. I can discover anything, Invention is another matter. Bill

  • bill

    I am working on a replication of Not an Ecat but a
    Piantelli type of Ni-H reactor at least Piantelli’s disclosers are some what coherant. This is a little off topic but I came across this a few days ago (No. Take 2 copper disks size of a penny. Put a dent in one. Mix ultra fine magnesium hydride soft iron powder and nickel powder in equal portions. Make sure ALL ball milling, preparation and procedures are strictly inert atmosphere and dry box manipulations. Compress a portion of the mix to a small pill which fits easily into the disk indentation. Seal the chamber, welding with jeweler’s tools. Place reactor in a small beaker with water. Place on top of induction coil heating unit. Cause the water to boil from heat induced by alternating magnetic field. Once boiling, turn off the induction heater. Keep adding water as the boiling will continue by itself for ? years. Mine is still boiling after over 5 years.) Bill

    • Patrick

      Bill,
      Do you have a webpage to share about this? It sounds like something a poor geek like myself could replicate!

    • Mike

      My pennies have turned into a gold color.

      I dare not take them out of the water, because the heat increases very quickly,, how do I stop it please Bill

      Cheers
      Mike

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  • arian
  • slacks

    This whole situation reminds me of Monty Python’s skit “SPAM! the wonderful spam.” Uh, replace the word “spam” with “scam”.

  • Ian

    This replication claim raises many flags to me. The username on the account of chan is sumyongoi I don’t know about you, but that sounds like a bad joke. Some young guy. Magnesium hydride rather than hydrogen. He claims 200c output, Mgh2 doesn’t decompose until 300c. I’m not saying I have enough information (just like the actual rossi reactor) to say for sure this is false, but this replication claim smells terribly fishy.

    • arian

      1-chan put his formula at site as a comment and
      sumyongoi reposted as new topic.

      2-MgH2 crystallite sizes of approximately 10 nm
      exhibit lower initial hydrogen release at a temperature of 150 C

  • http://www.buildecat.com LCD

    BTW thanks for reposting the claim by Chan Admin. I hope this poster was sincere.
    Hopefully there are people out there trying to replicate the ecat like us.

    Your commenters are right, the people have the power to bring down the price by the mere idea that they are trying to replicate it. I know I am going to try.

    As far as Rossi is concerned I think Defkalion and Ahern had more to do with that change than anything else.

  • Sanjeev

    Brian Josephson, Nobel prize winner for physics in 1973, highlights the UK energy departement (DECC) interest in Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat and invites the inventor to reconsider the idea of a scientific test.

    http://www.focus.it/scienza/e-cat-and-cold-fusion-open-letter-to-andrea-rossi_C12.aspx

  • Johannes Hagel

    Hm, strange contradictory statements are going arround. Yesterday I read confirmation of Rossi, that they are just accepting orders for the 1MW plant and it is not possible to order house-adapted E-Cats. Now comes this waiting list for 10K orders. Quite confusing policy, isn’t it?

    • Johannes Hagel

      Possible that Rossi feels under pressure by the “anarchy” of self E-Cat builders?

      • Hampus

        The waiting list is only so he knows what demand there are. If he knows 10 000 are interested he can built all of them for cheap. The more you need to build the cheaper it will be.

        • hehe

          Then he must be completely nuts. The demand will be about a few million units.

          I hope the Defkalion guys will handle it better.

          Disclaimer: If this turns out to be real stuff.

          • Josh

            My thoughts exactly. Another site called it a marketing test.

            Just the other day I asked myself… will the heat/energy markets ever take off?

          • http://www.buildecat.com LCD

            My thoughts exactly, he’s got to be nuts if he doesn’t think at least 10,000 people have been following him.

  • arian

    #
    Andrea Rossi
    November 21st, 2011 at 11:25 PM

    Dear Felipe From Chile:
    You are right, we are organizing this.
    BY THE WAY: WE COLLECT FROM NOW THE NAMES OF ALL THE PERSONS OR ENITITES INTERESTED TO BUY AN E-CAT OF 10 KW. IF WE WILL REACH 10,000 NAMES IN THE LIST, THE PERSONS IN THE WAITING LIST WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONFIRM OR NOT THEIR ORDER AT 400 EURO/THERMAL KW. DO NOT SEND MONEY, WE WILL ACCEPT THE ORDERS ONLY IF WE WILL REACH 10,000 NAMES IN THE WAITING LIST, COMBINING OUR LIST WITH THE WAITING LIST ORGANIZED BY OUR BROTHERS OF HYDROFUSION .
    WARM REGARDS,
    ANDREA ROSSI, LEONARDO CORP. (PRESIDENT)

    • David

      So there’s the scam – and it’s a beauty. I was wondering how The Magical Signore Rossi was going to pull it off. He’s worked it up perfectly. There are enough true believers out there willing to part with 4000 Euros up front to make it a real winner.

  • Larry

    Hang on to your hats boys! Mr. Toads Wild Ride is just beginning.

    Everything is as it should be.

  • K Reilly

    Nothing with the word and/or name “Chan” in it should be taken seriously.

    • Hampus

      That is racist!

      • K Reilly

        well then blame 4chan

  • Wes

    And as an added bonus there is a nice section on anti-gravity on this site 🙂

    • daniel maris

      Well it’s pretty detailed. But the comments warning about gammas should be taken seriously.

    • Alain

      it is sad that LENR have long been only accepted in non-classic (psychiatric) science…
      but don’t forget that when a real science emerge it starts by not differentiating the pseud-science from the real one.
      Kepler Law was written in a crasy astrological book… ans Galileo used his heliocentric law to deny the love of God to Humans…

      anyway, very few data, low trust, so… nothing more. E-cat and Defkalion announces are much more importants.

    • http://www.buildecat.com LCD

      Well it’s tough to police every video that gets embedded from youtube. The policy is LENR only videos. I try to delete the ones that people flag.