As Rossi Talks of Production and Outsourcing, Competitors Speak Up

As interest grows in cold fusion technology as knowledge of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat technology spreads, it is not surprising to potential competitors coming on the scene with their own claims and plans.

Rossi’s erstwhile partner, Defkalion Green Technologies recently announced that within the month they will be providing more details about their Hyperion products, which they say will be running on a different technology to Rossi’s energy catalyzer. Alexandros Xanthoulis, DGT’s CEO told the Greek publication Tovima last week that, “within the next 15 days there will be announcements and initiated testing and certification by independent third parties. We will present the final product – not just a laboratory prototype – with all its subsystems to operate according to European safety standards.”

Another cold fusion researcher, Brian Ahern, former researcher for the US Air Force, has announced that he will be revealing details of a cold fusion/LENR breakthrough at the Flash Summit clean tech conference in New York City on December 7th. Ahern states on the Flash Summit’s website that, ““In the last 8 weeks I have been astounded by a superior nanotechnology that will capture the imagination of even the greatest foes of LENR. I believe all of LENR is just a new and unanticipated form of nanomagnetism.”

Meanwhile, Andrea Rossi is working towards expanding production of his 1 MW thermal plants. Yesterday he made this statement:

“I AM RECEIVING TO MY MAIL THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS FROM MANY PERSONS:
1- IS MY TECHNOLOGY FIT TO MAKE WEAPONS? ANSWER: NOT AT ALL
2- HOW MANY PLANTS OF 1 MW CAN WE MANUFACTURE IN 1 YEAR?
ANSWER> SO MANY WE WANT, THROUGH A VERY WELL ORGANIZED OUTSOURCHING SYSTEM
3- IS IT POSSIBLE TO VISIT THE FACTORIES WHERE THE PLANTS ARE MANUFACTURED?
answer: no.
Warm Regards,
A.R.”

Rossi is surely aware that any success he can demonstrate will garner the interest of scientists and industrialists worldwide. For many years the cold fusion/LENR field has been a fringe movement, with only independent minded researchers going against the grain of mainstream science which had declared cold fusion impossible. Now that there is evidence that the once-considered impossible can be achieved we can only expect that the field will become more and more crowded. Andrea Rossi has been the first off the starting blocks, but whether he can keep ahead of the pack remains to be seen.

Frank Acland

  • http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/10/the-critical-need-for-e-cat-technology-for-food-production-and-affordability/ praos

    Please stop calling it “free” energy, this smack of magic, doing the eCat great harm. Coal and oil are also “free” under the ground, and in coal-fired plants capital cost more than fuel. So there is nothing esoteric about eCat, neither in scientific nor in ecconomoic sense. The eCat is fascinating soudce of very cheap energy, but there is no such thing as a free energy (and, for that matter, lunch).

    • Robert Horning

      I completely agree. This is fusion energy… if it works at all. “Free energy” needs to be kept with perpetual motion devices and other hoaxes and scams. There is a reason that patent offices refuse to issue patents for any of that “technology”, and having the same “paintbrush” being used for LENR is only going to be something that backfires on any attempts to legitimize the E-cat.

      No, it isn’t a grand conspiracy, but rather clueless people seeking after a mirage that doesn’t really exist. Patent offices don’t issues patents for that stuff because it simply doesn’t work.

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  • Nixter

    If and when this is proven, within a couple of weeks or months, the entire Planet will be placing orders for these mysterious “free energy” devices. I put the free energy in quotes because the phrase sounds so unlikely, to have this be true, it goes against most peoples preconceived notions of reality, even those who believe in the E-Cat feel that an inference of improbability permeates it. The level of interest for these devices should be way above the market prediction levels formulated by the inventors and marketers of these fusion energy devices. I think it likely that Mr.Rossi will not be able to make enough to completely fulfill world wide market demands, the other companies will be needed to get enough production capacity to meet demands. We all want Rossi to do very well, and make his investment back, plus a healthy profit for his efforts, but this is bigger than any one person when the fate of the world will be altered dramatically by this nearly inconceivable breakthrough.

  • Raimundo

    The big Race of Scammers is just starting!!!

    Every scammer will now claim “cold fusion” to make a few bucks…

  • arian

    Other than the 13 Ecats for the 1st customer there are no other orders. From Rossi’s blog.

    Patrick from Sydney
    November 21st, 2011 at 5:29 AM

    Dear Andrea,

    You mentioned that you are manufacturing 13 more 1MW plants for the same first customer that bought the first plant. Just curious about the following:

    1) Do you have orders from any other customers?
    2) How do you prioritise for which customers do you build first?

    Thanks and Regards,
    Patrick

    Andrea Rossi
    November 21st, 2011 at 7:15 AM

    Dear Patrick From Sidney:
    1- not so far
    2- the delivery term is started from the date of the order. No priorities.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    • Raimundo

      So, there is not a second customer…

      The big SCAM is becoming clear here…

      • Alexander

        Did you ever think to consider that Rossi was including the second customer in his list of customers who have placed orders already, and that they had not yet agreed on an amount?

  • Michael Smeltzer

    Suggestion….

    Instead of concentrating on 1 MW units. Production of 15 kw home and small business units will be where the real money is.
    People living in cold climates will be the very first to welcome your new energy source Mr. Rossi.

    • Kim

      True, but with this comes exhaustive and
      rigorous safety precautions that take
      large amounts of time to acquire

      Respect
      Kim

    • Scott

      I live in Fairbanks,AK and would love to have one or two. We pay the highest energy prices in North America. The problem is that the EPA will want to study the ecat for years before they would allow them in homes. If electricity was invented today do you think the EPA would allow electricity to be in homes where children can be shocked to death. Then you would have special interest money from all energy sectors keeping in study after study. Our voices will have to be heard to make a difference.

      • GilGrape

        Scott,

        while it is always appropriate for products used in homes be safe, I’m not sure EPA would have authority here. More likely home LENR appliances should be certified like a home water heater or oven. The ANSI organization could establish standards and Consumer Product Safety Commission could do certification.

        Before that is feasible, the US government needs to step forward and acknowledge the existence of this technology and its role in solving our energy and “climate” issues. As there is no toxic or radiative emissions from the e-cat – EPA would do well to stay out of it.

        • Josh

          The temperatures and pressures are much higher than a home water heater. Additionally, a nuclear reactor would have to PROVE that no radiation could be emitted and that it has no dangerous failure mechanisms or spurious modes of operation. Since it is nuclear, it will be considered guilty until proven innocent, both by the government and NIMBY folks.

          Your neighbor will sue you if his kid develops autism or cancer and you have a NUCLEAR REACTOR next door.

  • Bill Nichols

    Brian Ahern said… “I believe all of LENR is just a new and unanticipated form of nanomagnetism.”

    Interesting. This is one of the concepts I’ve been considered is in play from working with Nanotechnology and Stealth Technology in USAF late 1980 through mid 1990s. Could it maybe a combination of this and other E-M phenomena.

    This is encouraging, may view is it could assist in us moving away from many current paradigms of the inertial and gravitational framework of science (including existing QEM). Possibly a more holistic view of 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (not closed in our current sense). Impacting enthalpy? Gibbs Free Energy definitions on at least smaller scales.

    For decades held the view our understanding of science is incomplete due to unexplained phenomena. Maybe we’ll finally discover what gravity really is…which may be closer to a kind of a property of the stronger forces?

    Seen too many theories blown up by nature in my many decades.

    In time…nature will tell us soon enough as long were open and use proper scientific principles.

    Good stuff to ponder.

    2 cents.

    Bill Nichols

    • Kim

      would that be the 5th stage of denial

      5. Acceptance

      Respect
      Kim

  • Thomas

    “Now that there is evidence…”

    What evidence? “Proof is adding up”, but it’s far away from evidence …

    • Alain

      scam have a structure, a limited size.
      there are too many people talking either about effect or about working products, that should be in the scam to make it possible.
      the hypothesis of scan is not credible.

      assuming thus no scam:
      self delusion, is not possible since the effects that the various actors are too big to be a confirmation bias.

      for me the strange behavior of Rossi may simply be cause by the patent run, the industrialization problems (instability), the race with Defkalion, and bad memory about his past with a company broken by corrupted government regulation change and trash mafia.

      add to that that to have tried to work in that domains, and keep working, he need an atypic personality, independent, a little paranoid…

      he also invest his own money, thus might be furious to lose the race…

      • GilGrape

        Heh heh… “trash mafia.” Right on the money Alain.