Rossi: Additional 1 MW E-Cat Plants Sold, Projects Exponential Growth of Sales

It hasn’t taken long for Andrea Rossi to get back to posting on his site following last Friday’s demonstration. He said he was going to take a break to play tennis, but it was a pretty short one; he was online again on Saturday and is now back answering questions at a steady clip. Q & A’s now seem to be focused more on the commercialization side of the E-Cat, and there have been some interesting interchanges.

First, Rossi confirmed that the plant that was tested by Domenico Fioravanti on Friday has been taken away for delivery to the customer — showing that putting the whole thing in a shipping container was a smart idea.

When asked when the next sale would take place, Rossi answered, “done” — and said it was to a different customer than the first one. There was no indication of a second plant in the Bologna factory, so perhaps the sale was a purchase in advance of it being constructed, or maybe there’s another location where these units are being manufactured.

When asked how many units he was expecting to build in the first year, Rossi answered, “From 30 to 100 for the first year is what we are already ready to make, but we will get exponentially faster in time”, which means that production facilities must getting lined up to handle these orders. Rossi When asked where in the United States he will be working, and hiring people he listed Miami, FL; Manchester, NH; and Boston, MA. Rossi mentioned again that the industrial strength plants are ready for manufacturing, but there still is work to do to get authorization from government regulators for the small household units to be sold.

Rossi says he will back in the USA soon — “We gotta make jobs.”

UPDATE: Apparently it’s more than just a second plant that has been sold. Rossi was asked at the JONP whether he had sold 2 or more plants, and he answered, “more.” Also, asked if he could say who any of the other customers were he declined to do so saying, “I want not our Customers assailed by the puppetts moved by their puppetteers. Let the plant go to work, then they will reveal themselves automatically. Probably you did not understand that there is a war against us.”


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  • Russell

    I remain skeptically optimistic. While I really hope the Ecat is the real deal there is too much overall secrecy surrounding it.

    Firstly, and I know I will be jumped on for this, the Ecat was still attached to a running generator. If you want me to believe it is self sustaining turn the generator off.

    Second, the “customer” who “bought” it, even though it was still plugged into a generator, is completely anonymous. Someone saying their customer is completely satisfied is not the same thing as the customer saying he is.

    Third, there has been no scientific review of the Ecat before sales. If it is to be believed that it is a cold fusion reaction, it need scientific review before sales to guarantee safety, if nothing else. A cold nuclear reaction is still a nuclear reaction. From a liability standpoint what Rossi is doing is extremely foolhardy.

    Those are my concerns with the Ecat test. If the devise is truly being tested by the Bologna University I hope they reveal to the world that the Ecat is the real deal. Otherwise, I will have to conclude this is another in a long line of free energy scams.

    • Carl Nemo **==

      Spot-on analysis of E-Cat Russell, myself having similar concerns.

      I urge folks to pull up Rossi’s bio on Wiki. You’ll be surprised to the fact he has a criminal background although ‘acquitted’ makes one somewhat concerned as to whom he associates with?

      Surely everyone has heard of the word “Ponzi” related to a financial scheme. Well folks many people in our modern era have been duped by alleged technological advancements soon to fail after introduction into the marketplace.

      I’m hoping beyond all hope that this would turn out to be the real deal simply as an “Edison” type breakthrough in power generation. Possibly Rossi too, as Edison, is a hands-on, practical genius without the hardcore mathematical and physical science background to explain his invention via formally accepted modes, but in the final analysis it works. (hopefully so) : )

      It means hasta la vista babeee to oil sheiks and other perveyors of oil and natural gas as the world’s premier energy source.

      Carl Nemo **==

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  • Pontus

    Unfortunately there is a big investment in existing energy sources that is protected by big interests who care only about their importance and power to control the world. Many scams have been presented to discourage belief in any real breakthrough like E-cat. If the powers that be can not own it they will destroy it. Hopefully E-cat technology will prevail by proving superior to existing technology and be more conducive to a decentralized energy economy thus diversify power production so it can truly serve the needs of many and not just the few.

    • Studious Citizen

      There are nations whose entire economies and governments are run solely on the revenue generated by oil and natural gas. Of course there is opposition to revelation of any new energy source that is both cheap and effective.

  • Nicholas Payne

    It is ironic that just two days after the October 28th test, nature provided the best advertisement for his system by a second record storm that left 77% of Connecticut without power. The thunderous roar of home gas powered generators has stopped now that power is returning, but Mr Rossi makes the whole electric infrastructure that fell apart obsolete.

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  • Steve Parry

    Dear Mr. Rossi,

    When will an ~ 1 KW household e-cat be available? I would love to have one. As I am living in Alaska it would be extremely useful for remote sites.

    Sincerely, Steve Parry

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  • Aaron R

    Dear Mr. Rossi, do you have any plans on making this available to Canada?

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  • Potential Customer

    Rossi’s commercial e-mail is: [email protected]

    Well, what if we visit the website http://leonardocorp1996.com

    That is the website of a company called “EON”, also known as “Leonardo Corporation”. The company makes electric generators (GENSETS) fueled by vegetable oils and animal fats. The company is probably a property of Andrea Rossi.

    Address of Leonardo Corporation:

    116 South River Road
    Bedford, N.H. 03110 – USA

    Phone +1 603 668 7000 – +1 603 674 1309
    Fax +1 603 647 4325

    So, can someone please go to Bedford, New Hampshire, and knock at the door of 116 South River Road, and ask: “Hello, are you building E-Cats here? I want to buy one…”

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  • arian

    #
    Iggy Dalrymple
    October 31st, 2011 at 9:16 PM

    Dear Andrea Rossi,

    When do you intend to start production in the USA?

    Andrea Rossi
    November 1st, 2011 at 3:35 AM

    Dear Iggy Dalrymple:
    Already did. The charges are already made in the USA. Of course the work is in progress.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

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  • http://Joevarcadipane.com Joe V

    I remember, some time ago, after Rossi’s second attempt at a patent application, that he installed some sort of fail safe device to destroy the catalyst. I remember him explaining that he had worried about intellectual theft while the application was being processed. Also he was trying to insure safeguards against any radiation leakage, seeing as though the basic theories on the atomic levels are not quite understood as of yet.

  • stefano cicchiello

    Just a suggestion , comes from my synapsis

    Maybe , just maybe THERE IS NO CATALYST

    Think about it . if would be , the customers would have in their hand right now , and with that the secret too . So why sell the secret before got the patent ?
    Other though , that come from what i heard from stremmenos : there is no known catalyzer for atomic reactions . So i suggest the “catalyzer” is the nano-structure of the nickel inside the reactor itself .
    thats it .
    hope u enjoy the work of my sinapsis
    Peace and Love

    • http://ecatbuilder.com bhlowe

      I’ve tried to replicate the reaction without a catalyst and had no measurable success. On the other hand, the catalyst may be a form of pulsing or frequency generator. The more people who try this on their own the better.

      • glugglug

        I’m thinking the fact that it is Nickel *powder* not just a nickel bar is critical in order to provide a larger reaction surface.
        Maybe the catalyst is a fan to pick up nickel dust and make it mix with the hydrogen more?
        Or it could be something to kick the electrons off of the hydrogen atoms so the proton can hit the nickel nucleus without the hydrogen electron repelling the nickel ones.

        • jcragris

          You must read this book:
          http://www.consulente-energia.com/cold-fusion-book-secrets-e-cat-by-mario-menichella-secret-ecat-andrea-rossi-focardi-energy-catalyzer.html

          Acces with Microsoft IE Browser, not Chrome!!!

          this is a good book if you want to understand the work of Rossi and build an e-cat

        • Aken

          I guess that there are several details that must be correct.
          -Nano Nickel (with enough proper Nickel isotopes). Particle size 20-70 nm
          -Hydrogen (H+ not H2). Hydrogen should be inside Nickel FCC lattice (the reactions and phenomenon are known from battery chemistry – ex. Nickel Metal Hydrite battery).
          -Correct frequency (Nickel nano particles resonation speed = 1100000 m/s) – correct voltage, current and frequency => resistor => EMC field => resonating nano particles
          -(Probably) correct catalyst – (my guess) carbon based. C14 (or was it C12) cause anomalies in quarks (spin effects). Speculated secret catalyst is Ni-K2CO3 (or somewhere near of that compound).
          -Enough temperature > 60 C
          -Enough pressure > 20 bar
          -(Maybe some other details, but I not aware of those details)

          • Alain

            AFAIK the fact that Deuterium polute the celle is well known (like Paladium-Deuterium is polluted by H).

            the shape of the Ni latice, impurities, holes, …

            a few years ago someone have proved that radioactvity flux was modified by pressure (in thorium I think…)…

            AFAIK it seems the catalyser is said to break H2 in H+, and place the H+ and Ni latice in good state and position…

            IMHO it is only the begining of an engineering domain, like warn supraconduction is today… ther is propably space for many innovations, big and small…
            looks like a cooking device today.

      • Wes

        What H2 pressure did you use? Did you use high-vacuum degasification prior to operation? Did you observe expected adsorbtion during the loading phase?

    • Francesco CH

      TRANSLATED WITH GOOGLE TRANSLATOR:

      Last Very interesting coincidence is that the size of nano-particles of nickel (as stated in the patent) and one of the fundamental frequency of these reactions is similar to the wavelength at which the new lines of hydrogen spectrum (presumed orbital 1 / p) which are of the order of tens of nanometi (22 nm if I remember correctly the new line spectrum of hydrogen).

      In short nano-powders may resonate and then give the missing energy to the system.

      At this point I stop, good job and we hope that soon a university can attest to having her work with passion.

      I do not know if it is real cold fusion or whatever, (the time is the best judge in these matters), however I would like to thank you for introducing me to this fascinating and just to say THANK YOU.

      For the remainder will be deferred if the positive assure that the choir will be much, much stronger!

      ORIGINAL TEXT (IN ITALIAN) FROM JONP:

      Ultima INTERESSANTISSIMA coincidenza è che le dimensioni delle nano-particelle di Nickel (come dichiarato nel brevetto) e la frequenza fondamentale di una di queste reazioni è simile alla lunghezza d’onda di emissione delle nuove linee di spettro dell’idrogeno (orbitali supposti 1/p) che sono dell’ordine delle decine di nanometi (22 nm se non erro la nuova linea di spettro dell’idrogeno).

      Insomma nano-polveri potrebbero entrare in risonanza e quindi dare l’energia mancante al sistema.

      A questo punto mi fermo; buon lavoro e speriamo che presto una università possa certificare il lavoro da Lei Svolto con tanta passione.

      Non so se è reale la fusione fredda o altro, (il tempo è il miglior giudice in queste materie) vorrei comunque ringraziarla per avermi fatto appassionare e solo per questo le dico GRAZIE.

      Per il resto se i risconti saranno positivi le assicuro che il coro sarà molto ma molto più forte !

    • Charles

      I read somewhere that the catalyst might be copper oxide. But be careful, it could react with the hydrogen if you are not careful.

  • George

    So does anyone else know what the catalyst is? Is Focardi or any other physicist able to look inside the black box? I would be much more comfortable knowing there was another scientist knew exactly what was going on inside the box.

    • To George

      Why do YOU or any other “scientist” outside of their group need to know how it works for you to feel comfortable?

      All you shills may as weel get use to the fact that the Big Oil/Nuclear hegemony party is officially OVER.

      The oligarchs will have to try and find another way to leech off the masses.

      • http://Joevarcadipane.com Joe V

        My thoughts exactly George!

      • enoughAlready

        I believe the desire to know what is inside is driven by the fact that we still don’t really know if it works or is an elaborate scam.

        I really hope it works as it would change the world.

        What I do not understand is that there are plenty of people, with plenty of money, with plenty of engineering knowledge/skill who would help Rossi deliver this technology in what ever distribution/financial form he desired. I would speculate that many would assist at no charge just to participate in such a world changing revolution.

        These resources could provide engineering expertise so that he didn’t have some of those minor issues(like the gaskets/seals leaking as have been reported).

        Further, they could provide manufacturing and distribution channels to spread this incredible break-thru worldwide in months not years as its appears his plan might.

        For example, in exchange for a large unit and its nearly free energy, many manufacturing plants would gladly offer up some number of manufacturing lines/facilities in exchange for a power plant. This free energy would be well worth the lost opportunity costs of manufacture for part of their plant.

        For example the ailing airline industry has enormous manufacturing and maintenance facilities which are largely unused(one exists within 15 miles of my home). These mechanics can make anything including tight precision manufacturing. Offer them an opportunity to be the initial manufacturing plant for the cost of material plus an agreed upon margin and this system would be unstoppable by anyone.

        Again, all dependent upon whether its legitimate.

        • D R Lunsford

          Rossi tried to make fuel from garbage in the 70s. The Italian authorities (the Mafia) and the Italian government came down on him hard. I imagine he has no faith at all in the system, and why should he? Capitalism has been corrupted by bankers and government committees into one giant pile of organized crime. Science has become a laughing stock of dark energy, brane-worlds, wormholes, time travel etc. The entire system of Western culture is shot through with corruption and self-interest. Why play by the old rules? Rossi’s making up his own rules as he goes. Good for him.

          -drl

          • Luca Salvarani

            Trust me please on this point: in Italy we have, and always had, an absolutely disfunctional justice system and the free market doen’t exist at all here…so do not consider Rossi’s past justice and economic problems in order to assess him, whatever you think about e-cat!

          • Alain

            not only western, but all planet.
            simply we thing we are better, and we are better that most, but yes corruption is still strong.
            in western countries corruption is only restricted to the highest level… in poor countries it is everywhere. in developing countries, it is concentrating up, but reducing.

            (data from my anti-corruption wife, having lived in corrupted bottommost to topmost milieus)

      • George

        All,

        Firstly, I am not a scientist. I hope as I said that Rossi is legit. However, I am a business person and in business when someone is not completely forthcoming with how something works then I ask more questions. There are times when secrecy is necessary, such as security in an IT system. However, when this is necessary then we need to know that the company that we are trusting has people with legitimate credentials back them up. To me Focardi would be a person with legitimate credentials that could say, “I have thoroughly investigated Rossi’s device and have found no reason for to suspect fraud.” I would then question Focardi about his methodologies to determine fraud. Did you verify that no external source of energy was present, etc. In business you usually would like more than one source, however, even one would be nice in this case.
        I believe LENR/Cold Fusion is real and should be heavily invested in by governments and private investors. I hope that Rossi is completely successful. I understand that inventors like him are often quirky. (No slam on Mr. Rossi, just my experience with many inventors.) I can accept that, but I am asking questions that any business person would ask.

        Good Luck Mr. Rossi! The world needs what you are offering right now and I hope and pray for your success.

  • arian

    Interesting article from someone that recently find out
    about e-cat and lenr.

    http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=61

    • peter

      Now that is someone who does it right! I Whish every one would search for the truth.

    • daniel maris

      Yes, excellent summary of the pre-history of the E cat.

      I have been monitoring the uber-skeptic response on the JREF cold fusion forum. There was a spike of unpleasant posting just prior to the 28th October experiment but very little since. A straw in the wind? The heart seems to have gone out of the sceptics.

  • peter

    no…. no I will not feed the TROLLS again
    ahh damn it

  • peter

    then post the link to that post in rossis blog.
    mhh I should not feed the trolls. bad peter bad

  • arian

    This is a scientific forum for replication of e-cat.

    http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?699-Ni-H2-ECat-Project

    • Wes

      The site is interesting, but not “scientific.” They plan to use a brass reactor. Brass outgassing (zinc atoms) will quickly poison the reactor. Use vacuum-grade stainless steel.

  • Sanjeev

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Cat

    Is marked for deletion !

    • Roberto
    • Roberto

      I’m italian living in a kind of place where spaghetti and Rossi stay close each other, and where italian wikipedia does not trust a ecat voice, telling it’s not peer-review, and merging it with cold fusion! Tell me what’s the ratio!
      A crazy place but sometimes surprising …

    • Robert

      Don’t worry. This is typical for Wikipedia and there have been multiple editors threatening to delete the article for some time. I actually goaded one of them into trying just to air the issue and seal the deal that it won’t be even recommended for deletion again.

      Controversial articles like this routinely go through deletion nominations, and for something like this the grounds for deletion are particularly weak. Wikipedia admins mainly worry about some nut seeking to use Wikipedia as a way to publish some pseudo science theory, and the typical grounds for removing that is using Wikipedia to publish the content is unreasonable. Self-published sources are typically not respected, including blogs, forums (like this one), or ordinary websites dedicated to a specific topic.

      This topic has been covered sufficiently from enough organizations that the problem isn’t finding discussion but instead finding places which can authoritatively discuss what is happening and adding in the details.

      Unless you are an active and regular Wikipedia contributor, don’t join into this discussion. Just take it in stride and know that it will all blow over in a few days.

  • Sanjeev

    http://twitter.com/#!/petersvensson

    He reappeared 6 hours ago and started twitting. Says he can’t tell anything at present.

  • arian

    Andrea rossi in dvice.com (american popular science magazine)

    http://dvice.com/

  • arian

    Andrea rossi in dvice.com (american popular science magazine)

    http://dvice.com/

    http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/e-cat-consumer.php

  • arian

    Andrea rossi in canada media

    http://www.theagoranational.ca/