Rossi: New E-Cat Test Upcoming in Uppsala, Sweden

The recent video taken by Mats Lewan has sparked a lot of interest among people following the E-Cat story, and there seems to be a particular interest in the portion of the test where the electrical heat was turned off and the E-Cat ran in self-sustain mode.

A major question that some observers are focusing on is whether ‘thermal inertia’, i.e. the heat stored in the metal reactor following the switching off of the electrical heater could account for the measured temperature levels measured by Lewan during the 35 minutes that the E-Cat ran without any power input. There was a slight drop in temperature following the power shut-off, but later a slight increase in temperature was also measured.

It is very difficult to get a precise picture of the details of this test from an online video, and it seems that there will be continued debate amongst those who are trying to analyze Mats Lewan’s test.

Perhaps to put some of these issues to rest, Andrea Rossi has said that there will soon be another test conducted at the University of Uppsala, in Sweden. About this test Rossi states:

“Yes, we will organize e new very important test in Uppsala, and this time we will make the calorimetric measurements in a new way, suggested by the Professors: the steam circuit will be a closed circuit with a condenser and will exchange heat with a flow of liquid water: basically, we will have a primary circuit of the E-Cat and a secondary circuit through a radiator, and the energy will be calculated not from the delta T of the input/output of the reactor, but from the delta T of the secondary, which will exchange the heat by means of a heat exchanger. Of course the calculation of the energy produced will be in our disadvantage, because the heat exchange system has not a 100% efficiency, but I can accept it, because our energy gain is very high. The operation will be made also with self sustaining mode. We are already making this test in our factory, and the results of the energy gain are very close to the measurements we made in past. I am very satisfied.”

It’s interesting that Rossi would schedule this test soon before the launch of the 1 MW plant. Perhaps it will help generate interest as a sort of warmup or ‘pre-game’ show. I expect Rossi and those who will carry out the test will be paying attention to the questions being raised, and perhaps this, and other tests will make things clearer.

  • Geronimo

    It does seem odd no one ever commented on the actual sensors being supplied by a company owned by Mr. Rossi, if any tampering would occur this would be the point of tampering to investigate.

    Either use non-Rossi related sensors ( not Leonardo Corp produced ) or make an external calibration of the sensors measurements.

    Best would be to buy some off the shelf equipement and install during tests.

    In all humbleness and out of sheer curiousity.

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  • http://deighta.com Dale G. Basgall

    A few components like pressure gauges(2) and flow restrictor needle valves(2) and (2) flow meters would have been nice to view.

    The water inlet line hooked to a pressure gauge, a restrictor valve and then a flow meter connected to the inlet water and then the same setup at the steam/water exit hose could have at least showed us important facts.

    Also on the video showed a cracked outlet steam drain, I watched it 7 times and wondered how that connection could hold steam pressure so that made me doubtfull any pressure was allowed to build until the exit was capped and the water valve shut off.

  • s-cat-ptik

    just wondering why the observation of the self-sustained operation of a technology that would change the world we live in was halted after 35 mins.

    lack of intellectual curiosity?
    time to go to bed?
    just too boring?

    • jcragris

      a bad combination of circumstances as stated Mats Lewans!!!!!!!

  • jcragris

    After the last report from Mats Lewan I send him this question over his following :

    As this model of the E-cat was significantly larger and heavier, it was
    not as obvious as with previous models to completely exclude alternative
    energy sources inside the E-cat. This was partly due to the fact that we
    chose to terminate the test after only 35 minutes of self-sustained
    operation.

    -1- Questions: Why not purge H2 at 22:35 to see the delta T during the folowing 30 minutes.
    To be used as evidence in future tests in Uppsala and then compare the resulting graph with the graph of your current report

    I think it would be easy to consider the following test:

    Short test protocol to demonstrate an self-sustaining process and to eliminate the possibility of a hidden heat source:

    Phase 1: identical to the phase already experienced
    Phase 2: 10 Mn with power to electric resistance to restart the second sustained phase
    Phase 3: 30 Mn Sustained Phase
    Phase 4 : 10 Mn with power to electric resistance to restart the third sustained phase
    Phase 5: 30 Mn Phase without H2
    The Phase 1 first sustained phase and Phase 3 second sustained phase must be indentical
    On phase 5 the slope on delta T shoul decrease linearly in the absence of reaction (Chemical, atomic) or electrical supply
    This simple test is to check that for phases 1 and 3 we have a temperature of about 120 °which shows a considerable input of energy due to the presence of H2, and during phase 5 the absence of a external or internal energy allows the system to decrease linearly with temperature (given that the flow of cold water input is linear)
    Even if this test does not measure the exact amount of heat supplied, it can quickly verify the reproducibility of self-sustaining mode and lack of reaction in the absence of H2.
    For critics of the process we must remember that the amount of H2 consumed during testing ruled out the likelihood of exotic chemical reaction.

  • Dr. Johannes Hagel

    As a physicist I can state: If the test described in this way will run successfully for a sufficiently long time in order to exclude chemical energy sources then I would consider this test as a proof for the E-Cat to be valid. The difficulties connected to dry or wet steam would be completly avoided in this way and a conservative limit for the energy output can be calculated in a straightforward way from the dT of the heated water in the secondary circuit. The proof would simply be waterproof. I can only recommend to perform this type of test as quickly and as accurate as possible so that everything becomes clear.

    Dr. Johannes Hagel, Neuss, Germany