Rossi Actively Interested in Using the E-Cat to Power Steam Vehicles

In a world where automobiles are dominated by the internal combustion engine (with electric motors making a spirited appearance lately), it’s quite unusual think about going back to the steam age for transportation, but that’s apparently something that Andrea Rossi has been considering.  There has been a lot of talk about using steam to produce electricity (standard generating procedure), but using steam for mechanical power is another possible use for E-Cat technology.

Recently Bill Nichols, an atmospheric physicist asked Rossi about this topic:

Encouraged to hear your looking further into the potential of integrating the E Cat into steam powered vehicles.

As I understand, as one of the first to ask you about this potential application, keep in mind if your getting steam at 400+C…the thermodynamic properties of water should allow for integration to use in steam powered engines. Your invention appears to have solved the hard part.

The efficiency and simplicity of steam engines have come a long way…plus the water could be recycled. Then, further enhancements by those who specialize in this area could make. The durability, efficiency and performance potential of this type of set up should be pursued. As your an engineer, you can appreciate this.

My 2 questions…

1.) Have you, or contacts been looking into and are in contact with key folks with these skills and backgrounds in this area?

2.) If so, do you agree this has high potential in transportation?

Finally, keep in mind the role of steam power has made in the past and still does today. It is an efficient and effective fit (Rankine cycle) in the natural world.

Many Thanks for your efforts.

Rossi’s reply:

Dear Bill Nichols:
1- Yes
2- Yes
Please contact me in November for two reasons:
i- help me in this field
ii- visit our plant

So Rossi sees the potential for using the E-Cat for transportation — he has previously explicitly mentioned trains and ships — but perhaps he is thinking of automobiles too. There are obviously engineering challenges to make safe and efficient vehicles that could be comparable to IC or electric engines, but it would be interesting to see if there were possibilities in this field. There are many steam enthusiasts around the world, e.g.  recently a British team broke the world speed record for a steam powered car (which had an average speed of 139.843mph for a mile, and 148.308 mph during two consecutive runs over a measured kilometer) That’s faster than most people have ever traveled in a car.

Maybe a fun challenge for Rossi’s team sometime would be to see if and E-Cat powered steam car could do any better!

  • Rick Gresham

    I’m looking forward anxiously to November as you all are. One point I keep repeating is tempering expectations so as to not be disappointed when the excitement wears off and reality sets in. I read recently that a 250kWe electric motor is equivalent to a 350 HP gasoline engine. At even 40% conversion efficiency (heat to electricity-probably overly optimistic), such a motor would require something like 156 of Rossi’s 4kWth e-Cats. I don’t know the efficiency of converting steam to forward motion in a steam powered car, but I can’t imagine it would be much more efficient than this and probably substantially less efficient.

    In time, almost certainly, the power levels will increase but how soon is unknowable at this point, though I suspect fairly quickly unless there are some fundamental control issues that have been brought to light yet. I wouldn’t plan on doing my Christmas shopping this year in an e-cat powered car.

    As for ships and planes, extrapolate from cars. Ships run 15,000 HP engines. You can do the math. Trying to haul all that lead (remember, Rossi said something like 80% of the weight of the 1 MWth unit is the lead) through the air isn’t going to make for a very efficient airplane. It would take many 1 MWth units to power flight.

  • John McManus

    Re Steam engines. There is a very nice unit complete with boiler at “cyclonepower.com.” In this case you would not need there boiler unit.
    Other sites are “greensteamengine.com.” I am just about finished one of these.
    Also “reliablesteamengine.com” who also have plans for a 5 kilo-watt turbine.

    If I had an e-cat I would have a steam powered generator running inside 2 weeks.
    The e-cat in tandem with a suitable generator would be quite capable of powering ships. This would cut the large amount of pollution they produce.
    Instead of using some 100 tonne day fuel they consume perhaps 1 or 2 kg Nickel
    The cost of freight would also be dramatically reduced.
    regards john M

  • Lou N

    A steam powered airplane would be an interesting possibility too.

  • LookMoo

    Ginori,
    Time will tell.. meanwhile keep yourself calm.

  • Ignori

    For now, Ignori Ginori… this may be a scam, but name-calling will not prove it… time will. What we sow we shall reap… all of us!

  • Ginori

    Sei un buffone, un ciarlatano, un truffatore.
    Il tempo svelerà quello che sei, un clown.
    Ultima destinazione: Gaeta.
    Aspettiamo con ansia la notizia del tuo arresto, BUFFONE!